Trump on Ghislaine Maxwell: ‘I wish her well’

[skeeter]

You are so quick to assume the worst of this President, you're laughable.  I'll bet some real folding money you never took that attitude with Barry O'Bastard.

Sparring with some people just isn't worth the time.

[Mesaclone]

Yeah....uh... no.   I don't think you're supposed to call Trump supporters a cult on this forum.....

just like I'm not supposed to call Trump haters stuckonstupid leftist morons wrapped in an idiot.

 

Such a great response.

@XenaLee

[Victoria33]

Barr connection with Epstein:

"This, however, was not the first connection between Barr and his family and the disgraced pedophile. In 1973, Barr’s father Donald, the headmaster at Manhattan’s Dalton School, hired Epstein as a calculus and physics teacher.

While hiring Epstein, a noted mathematics genius, was not strange on its face, the hire was unusual for a couple of reasons. Epstein had not earned a college degree as he dropped out of New York’s prestigious Cooper Union. The other odd circumstance was that the new teacher was only 20 years of age."

The reason I bring Barr into this is to point out Barr and Trump both interacted with Epstein and Maxwell.   

[XenaLee]

There is no argument. If ONLY for the money, this is a piss poor president.

You've heard the saying that "you go to war with the army you have".   Well, this is war whether you are willing to admit or not... and Trump is the leader we have in this war... the leader we must go to war with.... and IMO, the only one that could withstand the CRAP that's been thrown at him 24/7 for four freaking years.   I may not be crazy about his personality... but I at least recognize that he is the leader we need at this point in time and history.  And he is also, IMO, the ONLY one that can win against the radical left deep staters that all hate him.   

So... if ONLY for their hatred (and fear?) of him.... I will damned sure vote for him this November.  And anyone that does not want to see the nation fall to the rabid left should do the same.

[skeeter]

You've heard the saying that "you go to war with the army you have".   Well, this is war whether you are willing to admit or not... and Trump is the leader we have in this war... the leader we must go to war with.... and IMO, the only one that could withstand the CRAP that's been thrown at him 24/7 for four freaking years.   I may not be crazy about his personality... but I at least recognize that he is the leader we need at this point in time and history.  And he is also, IMO, the ONLY one that can win against the radical left deep staters that all hate
So... if ONLY for their hatred (and fear?) of him.... I will damned sure vote for him this November.  And anyone that does not want to see the nation fall to the rabid left should do the same.

[Cyber Liberty]

And you would be wrong.  I equally called Obama out for what he was a terrorist that trashed Christians, and Christianity.  Who pandered to rioting BLM and Antifa until Trump took the job over for him.

There had to be one thing O'Bastard did that you thought was OK.  OTOH, you have disapproved every single thing Trump has said or done.  You have not had one kind word for Trump...if he managed to do something you thought was good, you always came down on "He did it wrong."

It's predictable, just like which horizon the sun will rise from.

[Cyber Liberty]

Barr connection with Epstein:

"This, however, was not the first connection between Barr and his family and the disgraced pedophile. In 1973, Barr’s father Donald, the headmaster at Manhattan’s Dalton School, hired Epstein as a calculus and physics teacher.

While hiring Epstein, a noted mathematics genius, was not strange on its face, the hire was unusual for a couple of reasons. Epstein had not earned a college degree as he dropped out of New York’s prestigious Cooper Union. The other odd circumstance was that the new teacher was only 20 years of age."

The reason I bring Barr into this is to point out Barr and Trump both interacted with Epstein and Maxwell.

Are you suggesting Barr and Trump thought Epstein was a wonderful fellow, helping all those young people out?  That's Boss-Level guilt-by-association.

[Cyber Liberty]

Sparring with some people just isn't worth the time.

If I were not an Admin, I'd have that one on ignore.

[roamer_1]

You've heard the saying that "you go to war with the army you have".   Well, this is war whether you are willing to admit or not... and Trump is the leader we have in this war... the leader we must go to war with.... and IMO, the only one that could withstand the CRAP that's been thrown at him 24/7 for four freaking years.   I may not be crazy about his personality... but I at least recognize that he is the leader we need at this point in time and history.  And he is also, IMO, the ONLY one that can win against the radical left deep staters that all hate him.   

So... if ONLY for their hatred (and fear?) of him.... I will damned sure vote for him this November.  And anyone that does not want to see the nation fall to the rabid left should do the same.

Well, as always, a misdirection pointing to the other side leaves 'our' side without consequence.

Conservatives in my son's lifetime would not have put up with this crap, and surely not those in my youth.

And I have said, and I do believe there is no difference at all between the two political sides. But go ahead... continue onward as your party stabs you in the back yet again.

THIS is why the liberals succeed. There is no opposition to them.

[XenaLee]

Barr connection with Epstein:

"This, however, was not the first connection between Barr and his family and the disgraced pedophile. In 1973, Barr’s father Donald, the headmaster at Manhattan’s Dalton School, hired Epstein as a calculus and physics teacher.

While hiring Epstein, a noted mathematics genius, was not strange on its face, the hire was unusual for a couple of reasons. Epstein had not earned a college degree as he dropped out of New York’s prestigious Cooper Union. The other odd circumstance was that the new teacher was only 20 years of age."

The reason I bring Barr into this is to point out Barr and Trump both interacted with Epstein and Maxwell.

Your implication here being.... that anyone that "interacted" with Epstein and Maxwell... IN ANY WAY... is automatically guilty of the same crimes they are/were guilty of... right?   Or is it only Trump and Trump associates that would be deemed guilty, in your small mind? 

I call bullshit on this and other comments you have made implicating Trump in the pedophile events.  .....like these...

Trump went to "parties" at Epstein's house in New York. 

Trump wishes Maxwell well so maybe she won't include him when she speaks in court or out of court.

If you have videos and/or proof, then by all means.... post it.  Prove your allegations right here.   Otherwise...if it's as I suspect... merely more of your personal opinion bullshit accusations and lies.... then I'm going to call you what you are in my personal opinion....

a damned liar and a slanderer, (among other things), and in Biblical terms...

a false accuser bearing false witness due to your extreme hatred.

You have claimed that you have some expertise in psychiatry?   Well God help anyone that you have come in contact with and have "interacted" with, then.

@Victoria33

[aligncare]

People should take the time to appreciate what Trump’s actual personality is and learn of the charity he has for people less fortunate than him.

Instead of accepting the mainstream media’s narrative of him, learn about his personal acts of generosity and his gregarious and caring nature. In reality he’s not the caricature the democrats/media portray him to be. To say Trump has been unfairly portrayed is the biggest understatement in political history.

[roamer_1]

People should take the time to appreciate what Trump’s actual personality is and learn of the charity he has for people less fortunate than him.

Instead of accepting the mainstream media’s narrative of him, learn about his personal acts of generosity and his gregarious and caring nature. In reality he’s not the caricature the democrats/media portray him to be. To say Trump has been unfairly portrayed is the biggest understatement in political history.

And in the obverse, his martyr play has brought him much undeserved sympathy.

[XenaLee]

Well, as always, a misdirection pointing to the other side leaves 'our' side without consequence.

Conservatives in my son's lifetime would not have put up with this crap, and surely not those in my youth.

And I have said, and I do believe there is no difference at all between the two political sides. But go ahead... continue onward as your party stabs you in the back yet again.

THIS is why the liberals succeed. There is no opposition to them.

Yeah, well... with all due respect (and yeah, I wuvs ya still).... standing on the corner (or from your perch in the mountaintop) yelling about it won't do a damned thing to save this nation from our 'immediate' danger and doom.  We have about three months remaining before we could be seeing the end of our nation as a free nation for those of us on the right.

As I see it, the only thing that will help stave off that doom is voting Trump/GOP this November.... in hopes that we can still get some of that opposition in Congress.   But we sure as HELL can't get that opposition by not voting GOP or by voting for a damned Democrat... which is essentially the same thing right now....in my humble opinion.

[XenaLee]

If I were not an Admin, I'd have that one on ignore.

We cannot afford to ignore those whose political bent would have us enslaved to the radical left that seek to destroy us.   We have to address it.   All of it.

[roamer_1]

Yeah, well... with all due respect (and yeah, I wuvs ya still).... standing on the corner (or from your perch in the mountaintop) yelling about it won't do a damned thing to save this nation from our 'immediate' danger and doom.  We have about three months remaining before we could be seeing the end of our nation as a free nation for those of us on the right.

As I see it, the only thing that will help stave off that doom is voting Trump/GOP this November.... in hopes that we can still get some of that opposition in Congress.   But we sure as HELL can't get that opposition by not voting GOP or by voting for a damned Democrat... which is essentially the same thing right now....in my humble opinion.

Meh. Nothing changes until we are standing and defending the actual ground we supposedly believe in. Ground wholly unrepresented by this administration and the GOP. The 'desperate times' bullcrap just gives them free license for another 4 years. And the big money will keep flowing down the throat of the big government beast, making it even worse, and more powerful for the next time.

I am though aiding and abetting that.  You do what you want to.

[skeeter]

We cannot afford to ignore those whose political bent would have us enslaved to the radical left that seek to destroy us.   We have to address it.   All of it.

I agree provide the counterargument, loud and clear. For others listening.

But I refuse to engage in any more tail chasing with them. Those individuals are going to be of no help at all.

[roamer_1]

I agree provide the counterargument, loud and clear. For others listening.

But I refuse to engage in any more tail chasing with them. Those individuals are going to be of no help at all.

Why should I help that which I am adamantly opposed to?

[XenaLee]

Meh. Nothing changes until we are standing and defending the actual ground we supposedly believe in. Ground wholly unrepresented by this administration and the GOP. The 'desperate times' bullcrap just gives them free license for another 4 years. And the big money will keep flowing down the throat of the big government beast, making it even worse, and more powerful for the next time.

I am though aiding and abetting that.  You do what you want to.

And again... with all due respect.... I find that I have no alternative .... no other choice BUT to attempt to stave off the complete destruction by the left of America, as founded, that will surely occur if the Democrats regain power in America.   Look what they've already managed to do these past four years with just one branch of Congress.  No further proof is needed than to look at what's happening in leftist run/ruined cities as we speak.  So yeah...if voting for Trump will stave off and delay their tyranny and treason for another four years ...

then hell YES I will do that.   I can't imagine anyone doing otherwise.   Anyone sane, that is.   

[XenaLee]

I agree provide the counterargument, loud and clear. For others listening.

But I refuse to engage in any more tail chasing with them. Those individuals are going to be of no help at all.

Those individuals are attempting (I suspect) to sway and convince (or convert) any viewers we may have here to their leftist bent... ie anti-Trump and therefore, anti-GOP.  Propagandists.  They're never going to "help" our side.   You're correct about that.

[Smokin Joe]

I get this 100%
In the primaries, I supported another candidate.
Once Trump was sworn in on Jan 2019, it was time to see what he would accomplish.

I remember a line from the movie "the Godfather", where Michael Corleone tells Kate, (paraphrasing), "We're no different than Senators and Congressmen."
She said "You are being naive, Senators and Congressmen, don't have people killed".
His answer was, "Now who's being naive, Kate".
( I may have the exact quote wrong).

Now, we are seeing a party so full of hate. We are trying to contain a virus that they do not want to end. We are trying to stop rioting that they do not want to end.
All of this in an attempt to return to power, and people are dying because of it. The left is allowing people to die to win an election.
Like Kate, I was naive, and didn't want to believe this  could actually happen, or only in rare circumstances, brought on by a few sick individuals.

I am naive no more.

Yep. The newest Communists have racked up a kill count of likely 50,000+ already, 'policy kills' in nursing homes and long term care facilities, cardiac patients who went unrevived, bad drug studies designed to "prove" there was no remedy but their remedy and banning what works, not to mention those dying in the violence of "peaceful protests" and above ordinary street crime, emboldened by policy which thwarts Law Enforcement.

I don't hate rabid animals, (after all, they are sick, too), but there is a solution to the problem.

I am all for rounding up the ringleaders and organiers who incite and enable this violence, the people who buy the bricks, freeze the water botles, and the violent ones who do the dirty work. One here, one there, until there are just ranting punks in the street.

I have noticed that there are not many black faces in the videos of the protests in Portland, maybe the blacks see the Communist crap for what it is and have backed out. Maybe the black moms don't want their kids to see that. They don't need the jailhouse tanned "non-binary, non-heteronormative, make up some shit about what you call what you do" Antifas to make a bad (worse) name for them, at least the ones who were to protest violence, and who aren't on board with the Marxist thing.

[Smokin Joe]

Barr connection with Epstein:

"This, however, was not the first connection between Barr and his family and the disgraced pedophile. In 1973, Barr’s father Donald, the headmaster at Manhattan’s Dalton School, hired Epstein as a calculus and physics teacher.

While hiring Epstein, a noted mathematics genius, was not strange on its face, the hire was unusual for a couple of reasons. Epstein had not earned a college degree as he dropped out of New York’s prestigious Cooper Union. The other odd circumstance was that the new teacher was only 20 years of age."

The reason I bring Barr into this is to point out Barr and Trump both interacted with Epstein and Maxwell.

Barr's father hired him?

How does this tie Barr and Epstein together?
Was Barr influential in his father's hiring practices?

That's a pretty sketchy connection, and not proof of interaction.

My wife's uncle had a college roommate who went on to make the 'big time' in New York as "The Son of Sam".

While what that guy did with his life rattled her uncle a little, it sure didn't make her uncle a murderer--or her.

[Victoria33]

@XenaLee

You said: "Your implication here being.... that anyone that "interacted" with Epstein and Maxwell... IN ANY WAY... is automatically guilty of the same crimes they are/were guilty of... right?   Or is it only Trump and Trump associates that would be deemed guilty, in your small mind?"
____________
I did not say that, you did.  Barr, as Attorney General, will likely be involved in the case just as he was with Epstein.  Epstein was in a Federal Prison when he died, and it was Barr that started the investigation about Epstein's death because he died in that federal prison, of which Barr is responsible for its administration since it IS a federal prison.

[roamer_1]

And again... with all due respect.... I find that I have no alternative .... no other choice BUT to attempt to stave off the complete destruction by the left of America, as founded, that will surely occur if the Democrats regain power in America.   Look what they've already managed to do these past four years with just one branch of Congress.  No further proof is needed than to look at what's happening in leftist run/ruined cities as we speak.  So yeah...if voting for Trump will stave off and delay their tyranny and treason for another four years ...

then hell YES I will do that.   I can't imagine anyone doing otherwise.   Anyone sane, that is.   

The same damn tired argument, every four years.

[DCPatriot]

The same damn tired argument, every four years.

But THIS time, we mean it!       

[roamer_1]

But THIS time, we mean it!       

No you don't.