Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian

[catfish1957]

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Sen. Ted Cruz said the future of conservatism after President Trump leaves office can be both populist and libertarian.

The Texas Republican weighed on ideological debates among conservatives, saying the future of conservative politics can be a combination of libertarian beliefs and populism during a Tuesday interview with the Washington Examiner about his podcast, The Verdict, co-hosted by conservative commentator Michael Knowles.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ted-cruz-future-of-conservatism-is-populist-and-libertarian
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One of the last of our breed in the Senate, predicting our demise?  Or has Cruz decided early on to adopt the Trump play book.  Very telling, there was no mention of fiscal reponsibility  And that's a damned shame.

[Bigun]

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Sen. Ted Cruz said the future of conservatism after President Trump leaves office can be both populist and libertarian.

The Texas Republican weighed on ideological debates among conservatives, saying the future of conservative politics can be a combination of libertarian beliefs and populism during a Tuesday interview with the Washington Examiner about his podcast, The Verdict, co-hosted by conservative commentator Michael Knowles.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ted-cruz-future-of-conservatism-is-populist-and-libertarian
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One of the last of our breed in the Senate, predicting our demise?  Or has Cruz decided early on to adopt the Trump play book.  Very telling, there was no mention of fiscal reponsibility  And that's a damned shame.

What would be wrong with putting this country first and protecting our liberties at the same time?

[catfish1957]

What would be wrong with putting this country first and protecting our liberties at the same time?

Nothing wrong with that.  My heartburn is that the base  cornerstone of conservatism, fiscal responsibily is being lost in his statement, and in the argument in gerneral .

Furthermore, for benchmark purpose, the existing populist and libertarian leader is in the process of adding $9T debt to our bottom line this year.   There is not going to be much liberty protections if we are ass deep in a financial crisis.  We need leaders who can kill Fedzilla. not feed it.

[libertybele]

The future of conservatism, needs to be - CONSERVATISM - not populist or libertarian.

[Bigun]

Nothing wrong with that.  My heartburn is that the base  cornerstone of conservatism, fiscal responsibily is being lost in his statement, and in the argument in gerneral .

Furthermore, for benchmark purpose, the existing populist and libertarian leader is in the process of adding $9T debt to our bottom line this year.   There is not going to be much liberty protections if we are ass deep in a financial crisis.  We need leaders who can kill Fedzilla. not feed it.

I was unaware that presidents got to appropriate money.  If I'm wrong please show me where that authority is to be found in the constitution.

[catfish1957]

I was unaware that presidents got to appropriate money.  If I'm wrong please show me where that authority is to be found in the constitution.

You don't think they influence spending, spending bills, or spending patterns?  Trump's done that all kind of ways in the past 3 or 4 months.

[Bigun]

You don't think they influence spending, spending bills, or spending patterns?  Trump's done that all kind of ways in the past 3 or 4 months.

They have every right to try but in the end, it is CONGRESS that does the appropriating!  I'm just laying the problem at the right set of feet.

[DB]

What would be wrong with putting this country first and protecting our liberties at the same time?

Populism has no foundation. It is simply which way the wind is blowing that day. Policy can change on a dime as the mob ebbs and flows.

Populism has little issue with printing money for endless free stuff. The only thing that matters to it is who's getting the free stuff.

And it is the road to economic ruin. No country has long survived it.

[DB]

They have every right to try but in the end, it is CONGRESS that does the appropriating!  I'm just laying the problem at the right set of feet.

The President has long directed the agenda on spending. Trump has managed to direct large amounts to the military for example. If he's as powerless as you say what difference does it make who's elected President? And did you say the same thing during the Obama years has he set the agenda spending trillions we don't have?

[catfish1957]

The President has long directed the agenda on spending. Trump has managed to direct large amounts to the military for example. If he's as powerless as you say what difference does it make who's elected President? And did you say the same thing during the Obama years has he set the agenda spending trillions we don't have?

Also welds a veto pen too. 

[Fishrrman]

"Libertarians"???
One of the lowest political animals on earth, just a step above "pacifists".

Reminds me of that character in Atlas Shrugged who kept proclaiming "it's not my fault!" They essentially accept no blame nor responsibility for anything, and refuse to support almost any political point of view.

Seems to me that the notion of "defunding the police" falls right into the tenets of libertarianism. Or more appropriately, "abolish the police" so everyone can do as they please, with the assumption that people will not harm each other. Look to the big cities right now to see how well that's workin' out...

[truth_seeker]

What would be wrong with putting this country first and protecting our liberties at the same time?

The Cruz Knowles podcasts are excellent. The forces that elected Trump are strong in this country.

I hope Sen Cruz runs for Potus in 2024.

[Bigun]

The President has long directed the agenda on spending. Trump has managed to direct large amounts to the military for example. If he's as powerless as you say what difference does it make who's elected President? And did you say the same thing during the Obama years has he set the agenda spending trillions we don't have?

I never said the president was powerless and Yes I said the exact same thing when Obama was president. Same for Reagan, Nixon, Carter, Clinton, and both Bushs.  Congress has unconstitutionally abdicated its powers over almost everything but spending money.

[Bigun]

"Libertarians"???
One of the lowest political animals on earth, just a step above "pacifists".

Reminds me of that character in Atlas Shrugged who kept proclaiming "it's not my fault!" They essentially accept no blame nor responsibility for anything, and refuse to support almost any political point of view.

Seems to me that the notion of "defunding the police" falls right into the tenets of libertarianism. Or more appropriately, "abolish the police" so everyone can do as they please, with the assumption that people will not harm each other. Look to the big cities right now to see how well that's workin' out...

You can think whatever you like. I happen to agree with many Libertarian positions. They lose me on open borders and foreign policy across the board.

[roamer_1]

What would be wrong with putting this country first and protecting our liberties at the same time?

Populism is a snake you'd better be holding by the head.

[Bigun]

Populism is a snake you'd better be holding by the head.

Yeah!  Theodore Roosevelt comes immediately to mind.

[Absalom]

The Natural Law, which evolved w/Man, was the foundation for Principled conservatism.
It was uncovered thru reason, applying logic, involving concepts of right & wrong (morality)
derived from human nature.
In turn, conservatism represented enduring precepts/principles governing human conduct
concerning attitudes, behaviors, impulses and sentiments as Man goes thru life.
In contrast, libertarianism labels freedom/liberty as Man's highest attribute and was formed
during the French Enlightenment from revolutionary leftist politics.
They have absolutely nothing in common w/each other.
Predictably another politico wants to re-define meaning that was born thousands of years ago.

[libertybele]

The Cruz Knowles podcasts are excellent. The forces that elected Trump are strong in this country.

I hope Sen Cruz runs for Potus in 2024.

I would like to see that as well, but after the continual beating and berating that Trump has received from the media and the leftists, I don't know that he will.

[bigheadfred]

Gotta get past this election first. This one night be a nation ender.

[catfish1957]

I would like to see that as well, but after the continual beating and berating that Trump has received from the media and the leftists, I don't know that he will.

I think his long term aspirations should focus on a SCOTUS posiiton.

He unjustly still will have a lot of head wind even in our own party.  Take a visit over TOS, and see how many are still calling him Lyin' Ted.

[libertybele]

I think his long term aspirations should focus on a SCOTUS posiiton.

He unjustly still will has a lot of head wind even in our own party.  Take a visit over TOS, and see how many are still calling him Lyin' Ted.

TOS?  I've never been ... and don't care to venture.  Sounds like a forum with more aggravation than its worth.

[Bigun]

The Natural Law, which evolved w/Man, was the foundation for Principled conservatism.
It was uncovered thru reason, applying logic, involving concepts of right & wrong (morality)
derived from human nature.
In turn, conservatism represented enduring precepts/principles governing human conduct
concerning attitudes, behaviors, impulses and sentiments as Man goes thru life.
In contrast, libertarianism labels freedom/liberty as Man's highest attribute and was formed
during the French Enlightenment from revolutionary leftist politics.
They have absolutely nothing in common w/each other.
Predictably another politico wants to re-define meaning that was born thousands of years ago.

Do you mind explaining where you came up with that notion?  I have no earthly idea.

[Absalom]

The future of conservatism, needs to be - CONSERVATISM - not populist or libertarian.

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Intuitive and on the mark.
Libertarianism was a fad of the French Revolutionary left.

[libertybele]

Gotta get past this election first. This one night be a nation ender.

   That is truly a possibility. I'm not so sure we as a country are going to make it to 2020 and if Trump wins can you imagine the rioting --- we ain't seen nothing yet, I'm afraid.

[Absalom]

Do you mind explaining where you came up with that notion?  I have no earthly idea.

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Libertarianism was born as a form of left-wing politics and promoted by it's
missionaries/preachers such as Joseph DeJacque, Pierre Proudhon and Sebastian Faure'.