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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #100 on: July 17, 2020, 08:19:30 am »

Dreams are for princesses awaiting a knight in shining armor.



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Irony... expressing for years that you're "awaiting a [Conservative]knight in shining armor" to save us all.

Can I start calling you "Princess"?

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Funny actually, that any thread with the word "Cruz" in the title can be guaranteed to run for weeks 'round here.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #101 on: July 17, 2020, 08:28:49 am »
@roamer_1

Irony... expressing for years that you're "awaiting a [Conservative]knight in shining armor" to save us all.

Can I start calling you "Princess"?

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Funny actually, that any thread with the word "Cruz" in the title can be guaranteed to run for weeks 'round here.

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You are utterly mistaken. I am not waiting for anything. I already know it ain't coming... 'Waiting' would be pulling the lever for the big rhinestone 'R' regardless of what they do, in hopes that somehow, some way, things would change in the future.

I ain't been that gullible since 07.

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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #102 on: July 17, 2020, 09:53:03 am »
@DCPatriot

You are utterly mistaken. I am not waiting for anything. I already know it ain't coming... 'Waiting' would be pulling the lever for the big rhinestone 'R' regardless of what they do, in hopes that somehow, some way, things would change in the future.

I ain't been that gullible since 07.

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LOL!  It's not me that's mistaken.

We've been watching you for 4 years bitching and moaning that the delivered candidates aren't up to your expectations because they're not pure enough for you to support.

Doesn't matter that the other alternative choice is Marxist/Socialist.  You continue to sit on that high horse of yours as a spectator.

That makes you a whiner and not a participant in the process.  As I've said before, the concept of going to war with the army you have is anathema to you.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #103 on: July 17, 2020, 10:21:25 am »
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Since you asked, I do miss your comparisons of Obama's inept response to the H1N1 and Trump's stellar response to Covid-19. Unlike President Donald J. Trump, Obama didn't even have the decency to tell us what great TV ratings he was getting during press conferences for his pandemic. **nononono*  Trump providing this level of information, this attention to detail, this "connecting of the dots," as it were, was so greatly appreciated up here in the Philly suburbs.

This  pointing-up is a word salad from an utterly confused mind.  @FeelNoPain   Congratulations on earning today's top honors from the Joe Biden School of Thought.  Mom and Dad will be so proud of you.  I know I am. 



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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #104 on: July 17, 2020, 12:20:35 pm »
This  pointing-up is a word salad from an utterly confused mind.  @FeelNoPain   Congratulations on earning today's top honors from the Joe Biden School of Thought.  Mom and Dad will be so proud of you.  I know I am.

Whoa. Your approval is all I ever wanted, @Right_in_Virginia!

And speaking of approval, I see the fake news ABC/Washington Post poll today has Trump’s pandemic response at 38%. Stemming this false narrative is why truth-tellers like yourself are so critical.
"I’d like to begin by addressing the heinous attack on the United States Capitol. Like all Americans I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem...

To demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol: you have defiled the seat of American democracy. To those who engage in the acts of violence and destruction: you do not represent our country. And to those who broke the law: you will pay." - President Donald J. Trump, January 7th, 2021

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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #105 on: July 17, 2020, 12:33:40 pm »
Whoa. Your approval is all I ever wanted, @Right_in_Virginia!

And speaking of approval, I see the fake news ABC/Washington Post poll today has Trump’s pandemic response at 38%. Stemming this false narrative is why truth-tellers like yourself are so critical.

Hate to tell you, but polls in this day and time are worthless.  Think about who mostly sponsors them....   MSM.   Then contemplate that the MSM has a 365/24/7 agenda to destroy Trump.  Polls are being (1) skewed demographically (2) Wording of questions are skewed to improve chances of an anti-Trump result (3) Polls are skewed geographically.  Never underestimate the motives right now of the left driven media.

There is only one MSM outlet I fairly trust, and that is the WSJ.  And still they allow the more resource entity NBC to run the thing. 

And BTW, give us some hints of your '20 preference.  Don't give the orange hoard any meat to slime and accuse of being a Biden supporter.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #106 on: July 17, 2020, 12:45:07 pm »
Hate to tell you, but polls in this day and time are worthless.  Think about who mostly sponsors them....   MSM.   Then contemplate that the MSM has a 365/24/7 agenda to destroy Trump.  Polls are being (1) skewed demographically (2) Wording of questions are skewed to improve chances of an anti-Trump result (3) Polls are skewed geographically.  Never underestimate the motives right now of the left driven media.

There is only one MSM outlet I fairly trust, and that is the WSJ.  And still they allow the more resource entity NBC to run the thing. 

And BTW, give us some hints of your '20 preference.  Don't give the orange hoard any meat to slime and accuse of being a Biden supporter.

I would never vote for a liberal as that is akin to suicide. i’ll leave the top blank, same as 2016.
"I’d like to begin by addressing the heinous attack on the United States Capitol. Like all Americans I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem...

To demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol: you have defiled the seat of American democracy. To those who engage in the acts of violence and destruction: you do not represent our country. And to those who broke the law: you will pay." - President Donald J. Trump, January 7th, 2021

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« Reply #107 on: July 17, 2020, 12:50:34 pm »
I would never vote for a liberal as that is akin to suicide. i’ll leave the top blank, same as 2016.

That's good enough for me.  IDK about you, but being accused of being a Biden supporter would throw me into fight and attack mode.  Your repsonse seemed pretty mild.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #108 on: July 17, 2020, 01:05:22 pm »
That's good enough for me.  IDK about you, but being accused of being a Biden supporter would throw me into fight and attack mode.  Your repsonse seemed pretty mild.

What kind of American voter would "...leave the top blank" in today's world?

I wouldn't hesitate to vote for Attila the Hun if the alternative was today's Socialist/Marxist alternative.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #109 on: July 17, 2020, 01:13:43 pm »
That's good enough for me.  IDK about you, but being accused of being a Biden supporter would throw me into fight and attack mode.  Your repsonse seemed pretty mild.

Understood.

I have decided that I'm just not going to allow Trumpfans to frustrate me. I have abandoned believing that we will ever reach an accord on Trump.

When Trump is gone, I am looking forward to conversing with them on how to grow conservatism among all demographics in this county.
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To demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol: you have defiled the seat of American democracy. To those who engage in the acts of violence and destruction: you do not represent our country. And to those who broke the law: you will pay." - President Donald J. Trump, January 7th, 2021

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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #110 on: July 17, 2020, 01:23:59 pm »
What kind of American voter would "...leave the top blank" in today's world?

I wouldn't hesitate to vote for Attila the Hun if the alternative was today's Socialist/Marxist alternative.

I feel that. And Leftist dogma has ravaged my community more than any other.
But, I simply can't vote for someone that I believe to be an amoral defect. Trump's repugnance is too rapacious for me to countenance.
"I’d like to begin by addressing the heinous attack on the United States Capitol. Like all Americans I am outraged by the violence, lawlessness and mayhem...

To demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol: you have defiled the seat of American democracy. To those who engage in the acts of violence and destruction: you do not represent our country. And to those who broke the law: you will pay." - President Donald J. Trump, January 7th, 2021

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« Reply #111 on: July 17, 2020, 01:25:11 pm »
What kind of American voter would "...leave the top blank" in today's world?

I wouldn't hesitate to vote for Attila the Hun if the alternative was today's Socialist/Marxist alternative.

I voted 3rd party in '16.  In 2020, its not as much as I am voting for Trump, as I am voting against Biden and the socialist onslaught.   Beleive me, there still plenty of animosity between DJT and conservatives. So, I can easily see this Poster's POV.

I do hope the holdouts come around.   And, I for one, will glad when Trump is gone.  Hopefully in '24.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #112 on: July 17, 2020, 01:26:39 pm »
What kind of American voter would "...leave the top blank" in today's world?

An ego-based voter living in his (or her) own head @DCPatriot

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« Reply #113 on: July 17, 2020, 01:28:46 pm »
I feel that. And Leftist dogma has ravaged my community more than any other.
But, I simply can't vote for someone that I believe to be an amoral defect. Trump's repugnance is too rapacious for me to countenance.


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« Reply #114 on: July 17, 2020, 01:32:52 pm »
I feel that. And Leftist dogma has ravaged my community more than any other.
But, I simply can't vote for someone that I believe to be an amoral defect. Trump's repugnance is too rapacious for me to countenance.

But you've no problem countenancing the "leftist dogma ravaging your community more than any other".

You're a curious little fella @FeelNoPain  :pondering:

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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #115 on: July 17, 2020, 01:39:04 pm »


"I didn't vote for a priest!"   

I'm old enough to remember when conservatives found Bill Clinton morally reprehensible.
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To demonstrators who infiltrated the Capitol: you have defiled the seat of American democracy. To those who engage in the acts of violence and destruction: you do not represent our country. And to those who broke the law: you will pay." - President Donald J. Trump, January 7th, 2021

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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #116 on: July 17, 2020, 01:51:35 pm »
But you've no problem countenancing the "leftist dogma ravaging your community more than any other".

You're a curious little fella @FeelNoPain  :pondering:

IMO, First and foremost, there is a moral rot in the black community. Nothing changes for the better until that is addressed.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #117 on: July 17, 2020, 01:56:27 pm »
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LOL!  It's not me that's mistaken.

We've been watching you for 4 years bitching and moaning that the delivered candidates aren't up to your expectations because they're not pure enough for you to support.

Doesn't matter that the other alternative choice is Marxist/Socialist.  You continue to sit on that high horse of yours as a spectator.

That makes you a whiner and not a participant in the process.  As I've said before, the concept of going to war with the army you have is anathema to you.

ROTFLMAO!!!

We have just witnessed the most expensive government in the history of the world enact the most draconian measures ever imposed on this nation, destroying our economy, decimating our industry and small businesses, and wrecking everything from scheduling to supply chain, and WHO is it standing athwart the times as we sink silently into the bowels of history?

Why it's your boy Tumpy, and a 2/3 REPUBLICAN government. And you claim to be fighting the socialists, and that you're somehow better, as you try to beat and shame me for my endorsement?

Believe me @DCPatriot , I see no difference in the two sides of this catfight. None at all.

DENIED. Your fetid movement does not deserve endorsement. I oppose it as much as I do the DEMS. In what little difference there is between the two, it is summed up by the insipid and cowardly Republicans in what I guess could be called their tepid and castrated opposition.

So no. There is no way in hell I will reward this ignominy with endorsement or approval. And since I vote according to the record, that is not going to change. EVER.
 

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« Reply #118 on: July 17, 2020, 02:16:30 pm »
ROTFLMAO!!!

We have just witnessed the most expensive government in the history of the world.


And happening on Trump's watch.  A fact his fans here conveniently avoid  talking about.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #119 on: July 17, 2020, 02:17:30 pm »
What kind of American voter would "...leave the top blank" in today's world?

I wouldn't hesitate to vote for Attila the Hun if the alternative was today's Socialist/Marxist alternative.

You already know the answer to that question, pal.....    wink777

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« Reply #120 on: July 17, 2020, 02:20:08 pm »
And happening on Trump's watch.  A fact his fans here conveniently avoid  talking about.

There is quite literally no defense. That is why your attention must be kept on the dastardly Democrats.
And that is why the Democrats do the same damn thing to theirs.

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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #121 on: July 17, 2020, 02:34:16 pm »
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Sen. Ted Cruz said the future of conservatism after President Trump leaves office can be both populist and libertarian.

The Texas Republican weighed on ideological debates among conservatives, saying the future of conservative politics can be a combination of libertarian beliefs and populism during a Tuesday interview with the Washington Examiner about his podcast, The Verdict, co-hosted by conservative commentator Michael Knowles.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ted-cruz-future-of-conservatism-is-populist-and-libertarian
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One of the last of our breed in the Senate, predicting our demise?  Or has Cruz decided early on to adopt the Trump play book.  Very telling, there was no mention of fiscal reponsibility  And that's a damned shame.

Perhaps that's a warning signal to people that the Conservatives like you and I need to start finding a different political home.  Cruz is telling us what he's seeing for the future of the GOP and it isn't gonna be pretty.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #122 on: July 17, 2020, 02:44:41 pm »
@DCPatriot

You are utterly mistaken. I am not waiting for anything. I already know it ain't coming...

I'm about there myself.  We had someone close in 2016, but the GOP Establishment did everything in their power to destroy them, even to the point of allying themselves with Trump.  And with the rule changes put in place at Trump's Convention, there's no way any Conservative can rise up from the grass roots again.  Trump was bad enough.  But the Establishment takeover at the GOP Convention was a murderous blade twisting in all our backs.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Future of conservatism is populist and libertarian
« Reply #123 on: July 17, 2020, 02:45:16 pm »
Perhaps that's a warning signal to people that the Conservatives like you and I need to start finding a different political home.  Cruz is telling us what he's seeing for the future of the GOP and it isn't gonna be pretty.


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« Reply #124 on: July 17, 2020, 02:48:39 pm »
I'm about there myself.  We had someone close in 2016, but the GOP Establishment did everything in their power to destroy them, even to the point of allying themselves with Trump.  And with the rule changes put in place at Trump's Convention, there's no way any Conservative can rise up from the grass roots again.  Trump was bad enough.  But the Establishment takeover at the GOP Convention was a murderous blade twisting in all our backs.

I reached the absolute end in 07 when Duncan Hunter was choked out of the debates. Done. Thirty years of the same dang thing tends to teach a feller.