Antifa Seizes Seattle PD, Sets Up 'Autonomous Zone' Just Like ISIS and the Paris Commune

[Cyber Liberty]

This needs more time to "ripen".

I agree with this, in that it's not ripe.  Gotta let the State government screw it up good first.  I have confidence in Inslee...he'll screw it up in grand style.

[sneakypete]

OK, another question.  I also don't know how those generals become members of the Pentagon?  Who and how are they placed?

@libertybele

The Pentagon/Pentagram is an office building that happens to be owned and populated by the US Military,not a military organization.

There are people stationed there that rank from Private to General. From what I have been told,almost everybody there spends their work day shuffling papers or having hissy-fits.

It's like the "Vatican of the Army".

[240B]

Don't understand all the fuss. In this case I am fully with Antifa.
Would be happy to all of Seattle on fire. Burn it down, baby! Let it burn!
And if it spreads to L.A., New York, Chicago, Portland, all the better.
Burn it down! Burn it all down!

Yea but, the second Trump gets involved in any way whatsoever, he is taking a giant anvil off of Inslee's neck and wrapping it around his own. Trump would have to be an imbecile to go anywhere near this fiasco created and owned by radical Liberals to try to "fix it" for them. They own it. Let them deal with it.

[libertybele]

Just happened to be reading this....

Thank you for the info.  So, if I am understanding correctly, the police hands were tied and they were not allowed to defend themselves by any means necessary -- that was wrong.  The "city" would be the office of the mayor who decided to prohibit the police from using tear gas, etc.  City council?? 

If that's the case, again, the mayor is NOT protecting the citizens and the governor isn't stepping in.  That leaves the Feds.  Or am I missing something here?

[catfish1957]

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[EdinVA]

OK, another question.  I also don't know how those generals become members of the Pentagon?  Who and how are they placed?

@libertybele
Each branch of the service has a Chief of Staff appointed by the President, i.e. Chief of Staff of the Air Force, and all the Chiefs together make up the Joint Chiefs of Staff and one General is the Chairman and the JCS is considered the "brains" of the military and are housed in the Pentagon.  And of course any general worth his salt has an extensive entourage to help him/her struggle thru their daily duties.  The Secretary of Defense along with all of the Secretary of each military branch are housed in the Pentagon near the JCS so they can consult with their military counterparts, which entitles each secretary to have their own entourage.

[libertybele]

@libertybele

The Pentagon/Pentagram is an office building that happens to be owned and populated by the US Military,not a military organization.

There are people stationed there that rank from Private to General. From what I have been told,almost everybody there spends their work day shuffling papers or having hissy-fits.

It's like the "Vatican of the Army".

Ok.  But who decides who becomes a member of the Pentagon?   Just based on rank??  Sorry ... I'm still not fully understanding.

[EdinVA]

Thank you for the info.  So, if I am understanding correctly, the police hands were tied and they were not allowed to defend themselves by any means necessary -- that was wrong.  The "city" would be the office of the mayor who decided to prohibit the police from using tear gas, etc.  City council?? 

If that's the case, again, the mayor is NOT protecting the citizens and the governor isn't stepping in.  That leaves the Feds.  Or am I missing something here?

@libertybele
Purely speculation on my part....
If Trump goes in his he will be damaged no matter the outcome.  If someone dies, he gets blamed, if everything works out, he will be blamed for getting in the way and violating state sovereignty... If is a lose lose proposition for Trump UNLESS Washington state demands his help, which is what I think he is waiting for.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Yea but, the second Trump gets involved in any way whatsoever, he is taking a giant anvil off of Inslee's neck and wrapping it around his own. Trump would have to be an imbecile to go anywhere near this fiasco created and owned by radical Liberals to try to "fix it" for them. They own it. Let them deal with it.

He has no choice but to intervene if a country asked the USA to protect its citizens legally on US soil.  That is a federal matter totally.

And that may be the mechanism he uses to do it.

[240B]

He has no choice but to intervene if a country asked the USA to protect its citizens legally on US soil.  That is a federal matter totally.

And that may be the mechanism he uses to do it.

There is always a choice. There is no such thing as 'Law' in Washington D.C.
That has been proven a thousand times over.
If a country has a problem with the United States, then sue us in the World Court.
End of subject.

[libertybele]

Don't understand all the fuss. In this case I am fully with Antifa.
Would be happy to all of Seattle on fire. Burn it down, baby! Let it burn!
And if it spreads to L.A., New York, Chicago, Portland, all the better.
Burn it down! Burn it all down!

Yea but, the second Trump gets involved in any way whatsoever, he is taking a giant anvil off of Inslee's neck and wrapping it around his own. Trump would have to be an imbecile to go anywhere near this fiasco created and owned by radical Liberals to try to "fix it" for them. They own it. Let them deal with it.

Well, I'm not a fan of the major liberal cesspools in this country either, but essentially allowing Antifa to run these cesspools isn't going to be any better.  It potentially would allow for an city that manages to place liberal leadership in charge to be taken over by thugs. The rule of law potentially then becomes obsolete city by city.  It then becomes rule of law by mob rule. I'm not ok with that. That opens the door for any subversive group to take over unless the message is sent now, that, this isn't the way things work.  We have laws that need to be adhered to and those that break the law need to be charged for their crimes.  That isn't what's happening right now and that's where the problem lies.

The rule of law isn't being adhered to in some cases at the federal level, the state level and the city level.  Our AG hasn't done a darn thing at the federal level and that complacency and incompetency is trickling down throughout the country; slowly, but it's happening.

[Victoria33]

@Cyber Liberty

The Mayor of Seattle says this evening, this area is four blocks long.  She said the cops left that precinct cop building in order to lower the possibility of serious violence happening.

Their Police chief was in that area today, talking/accessing the situation.  The Mayor is low key on this as though it is not a big deal.

[240B]

These juvenile kids are picking their own home bases to burn down first. Because they are children and they are afraid. The same as a young kid yelling at his mother calling her a whore and a bitch because he knows that she will never hurt him. And yet on the street he is shy and silent.

They are burning down their own home base because they feel comfortable there. And who am I to argue with this plan. The gaping hole in their strategy is in thinking that anyone would care. I don't care what the Liberal kids do at home. Burn it all down.

It is only when they venture out of their cocooned bases that they face any real blowback. And when someone challenges them, real people not police, they back down and run away. Because they know that we are not playing patty-cake with them like the Feds and the Cops do. They know we mean to hurt them. And they are correct.

[Idiot]

Then lay siege. Cut off utilities and shut down the cell phone towers.  Nothing goes in or out, and arrest anybody trying to leave. If the city refuses, then move the blockade out to the city limits.

Shut down cell towers in Seattle over a 6 block area?  Not going to happen.  Seattle is high tech central....  I'd guess Seattle's citizens are quite amused with this. 

[DCPatriot]

@Cyber Liberty

The Mayor of Seattle says this evening, this area is four blocks long.  She said the cops left that precinct cop building in order to lower the possibility of serious violence happening.

Their Police chief was in that area today, talking/accessing the situation.  The Mayor is low key on this as though it is not a big deal.

Does anyone recall the more than 1800 felonious inmates being released from jails in California/Oregon during the Obama administration...with absolutely no tracking or follow-up?

These people may have been training in groups all these years.

Add the Fast n' Furious scandal to the mix with automatic weaponry and here you have it.

[libertybele]

Does anyone recall the more than 1800 felonious inmates being released from jails in California/Oregon during the Obama administration...with absolutely no tracking or follow-up?

These people may have been training in groups all these years.

Add the Fast n' Furious scandal to the mix with automatic weaponry and here you have it.

Definitely very likely.  Part of Bammy's "rumored" silent army.

[Cyber Liberty]

Shut down cell towers in Seattle over a 6 block area?  Not going to happen.  Seattle is high tech central....  I'd guess Seattle's citizens are quite amused with this.

If they leave the cells working, the mob can get outside help.  Shutting them down is imperative, screw the little toy monsters.  Take their phones away.

[Fishrrman]

I imagine that Portland is nearly as infiltrated with antifa as is Seattle, if not more so.

How much longer until the antifa/commies/blm decide it's time to bring Portland to the "leaving the USA" party as well...?

[libertybele]

I imagine that Portland is nearly as infiltrated with antifa as is Seattle, if not more so.

How much longer until the antifa/commies/blm decide it's time to bring Portland to the "leaving the USA" party as well...?

Exactly.  It won't just be Portland, they will surely do the same in other cities as well.  That's why I still think Trump needs to act; this cannot become something that is just accepted.  We are the U.S.A., we are a country of laws and rules; we can't allow this country to be run by thugs or any other group that decides they want power and to destroy this Republic.

[corbe]

[240B]

I imagine that Portland is nearly as infiltrated with antifa as is Seattle, if not more so.

How much longer until the antifa/commies/blm decide it's time to bring Portland to the "leaving the USA" party as well...?

I hope so. Nothing would make me happier than to see Portland go up in flames.

[Hoodat]

Exactly.  It won't just be Portland, they will surely do the same in other cities as well.

Their German precursors, the National Socialists, called it 'Lebensraum'.

[Smokin Joe]

Gee, I don't know, charging people for protection and when they refuse to pay, stealing their businesses and/or harming the business owner(s).  Once they seize a couple of businesses, do you really think they will stop and won't hesitate to expand their borders?  Trump needs to step in IF the governor and mayor continue to do nothing and this escalates.  Trump shouldn't make idle threats; that only shows weakness on his part and they will quickly learn he doesn't do what he means.  That in itself is problematic.

Thinking that they won't expand into other cities I think is being overly optimistic. Once they realize that they have no resistance, they will continue to "occupy" as many cities as they can.

Some citizens need to seek a Writ of Mandamus to push the Governor to uphold the Law (mayor, too). Defy that, Contempt of Court, work your way down the food chain from the top, and put them all in jail.

[Smokin Joe]

Still a state issue, IMHO @libertybele   Federal intervention would still need an invitation.
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I don't know what's going to goad them into expanding their "borders".  (Love the wall, BTW  )   

If they seize local businesses it's a state issue.  But if they seize satellite offices of US businesses and the HQ across state lines object, well.... we're getting closer to a federal intervention.  But still Washington state government must be given the right of first response.   Under these circumstances feds could move if the state declines to end it.

And reacting before they do is not helpful, either.  It could encourage the very response we're trying to prevent.

This needs more time to "ripen".     Feds won't get a second chance at a first response.  They must get the reason for action and the action itself right the first time.

Feds could get involved. Invoke RICO.

[EdinVA]

Some citizens need to seek a Writ of Mandamus to push the Governor to uphold the Law (mayor, too). Defy that, Contempt of Court, work your way down the food chain from the top, and put them all in jail.

Writ of Mandamus?  Is that anything like a baseball bat?