Biden comes out against defunding police, as movement gains traction

[libertybele]

Biden comes out against defunding police, as movement gains traction

Joe Biden's campaign came out Monday against the growing push to "defund the police," saying instead that the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee supports the “urgent need for reform.”

“As his criminal justice proposal made clear months ago, Vice President Biden does not believe that police should be defunded,” Biden campaign Rapid Response Director Andrew Bates said in a statement Monday. “He hears and shares the deep grief and frustration of those calling out for change, and is driven to ensure that justice is done and that we put a stop to this terrible pain.”

Bates added that Biden supports “the urgent need for reform,” which he said includes “funding for public schools, summer programs, and mental health and substance abuse treatment separate from funding for policing — so that officers can focus on the job of policing.”.........

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-comes-out-against-defunding-police-as-movement-gains-traction

[Slide Rule]

Someone wrote a script for Joe. And he pulled off saying it.

Dims have just so many skilled people with exceptional ideas.

:) :) :)

[sneakypete]

Someone wrote a script for Joe. And he pulled off saying it.

Dims have just so many skilled people with exceptional ideas.

:) :) :)

@Slide Rule

Yup,no way in HELL the Dims want to lose control of the police when they come back in power.

After all,you can't have a proper police state without proper policing.

[skeeter]

Damn I was hoping Biden would continue pandering to the loonies right up to November.

I do notice he waited long enough to see how the public would react to the idiocy.

[mountaineer]

Unrolled Twitter thread:

Kyle Shideler   @ShidelerK

Q: "If they disband the police, what will they replace it with?

A: Community Self Defense. Community Self Defense is the general term used by ANTIFA and other autonomism-based groups use for essentially establishing what might be called in traditional COIN parlance, "Shadow government." They would object to this term of course. This does ABSOLUTELY mean the use of armed violence against their perceived opponents, as this article on Community Self Defense by the IWW (Wobblies) makes clear. But it means providing all manner of "government" services as well.

Community Self Defense: What We Mean - It's Going Down.

In Search of New Forms of Life. https://itsgoingdown.org/community-self-defense-mean/
This Chicago Abolitionist (of police, prisons and capitalism) makes the following point. Abolishing the police must logically necessitate the arming of their own cadres. You might say, "this is loony-tunes, Spanish Civil War LARPing nonsense."

No sorry, this is revolutionary politics. In a revolutionary environment (Russia 1919, Spain 1930s), at least in the short term, this stuff works. It's messy, but it works.

In long run, of course, some manner of order reasserts itself, Napoleon-style, usually by whatever "comrade" is nominated to run the self defense committee. plus ça change...

Of course you might reply that Minneapolis (or Portland, or Seattle or whatever) is NOT Barcelona circa 1936. And you would be right. But it provides a way to test concepts and capabilities, to de-legitimize the State (see we can provide resources the same as you can!)

Ask the Taliban how well this works. Or FARC, or the Mexican Cartels. It works. The obvious objection is that this is America and we aren't in a moment of revolutionary politics. Such things do not happen in America.

But how confident are you really in that answer?