LIVE THREAD: All hell is breaking loose across America Weekend Thread..Last Part

[mountaineer]

Re the Portland "moms""

Andy Ngô  @MrAndyNgo 
 I recognize a lot of the so-called “moms” as the same antifa women who dressed in black as recent as a couple days ago. They just put on a yellow shirt now for optics. Most of these people aren’t mothers & many don’t even identify as female. #PortlandRiots
3:29 AM · Jul 22, 2020

Video at link:

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1285839279843753985

[libertybele]

Here we sit.  Had Trump taken quick and decisive action when this "mayhem" first started to stop the rioting it wouldn't have spread. He made threats to stop things several times and they called his bluffs; he did nothing.  The mayhem continues in Oregon, Seattle, Austin, Aurora, Oakland, Omaha, L.A., what city is next?

American mayhem: More rioting and lawlessness in cities across US

Saturday was another night of rioting and lawlessness in a number of cities across the U.S.

The evening’s mayhem – which spilled over into Sunday morning in many instances – included damage to federal buildings and local police precincts and even included a fatal shooting in Austin, Texas.

Here’s a recap of some of the disturbing developments in a sampling of cities....

https://www.foxnews.com/us/american-mayhem-more-rioting-and-lawlessness-in-cities-across-us

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/25/us/seattle-protest-riot/index.html

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/26/us/austin-protests-shooting/index.html

[sneakypete]

Here we sit.  Had Trump taken quick and decisive action when this "mayhem" first started to stop the rioting it wouldn't have spread. He made threats to stop things several times and they called his bluffs; he did nothing.  The mayhem continues in Oregon, Seattle, Austin, Aurora, Oakland, Omaha, L.A., what city is next?

@libertybele

Odd how it was planned,started,and being continued by the Dims and their RINO butt-buddies,yet you people are blaming Trump.

Plan on voting RINO/Left in the upcoming election "cause all dis bees Trumps falts!"?

[EdinVA]

@libertybele

Odd how it was planned,started,and being continued by the Dims and their RINO butt-buddies,yet you people are blaming Trump.

Plan on voting RINO/Left in the upcoming election "cause all dis bees Trumps falts!"?

It is odd... and no blame for the politicians in those cities and the people that voted them into office.... 

[catfish1957]

@libertybele

Odd how it was planned,started,and being continued by the Dims and their RINO butt-buddies,yet you people are blaming Trump.

Plan on voting RINO/Left in the upcoming election "cause all dis bees Trumps falts!"?

@sneakypete

Got to admit Pete....  Trump's response has been a bit tepid for most of our tastes.  Action over rhetoric.

I want to see some knocking heads.....

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

Got to admit Pete....  Trump's response has been a bit tepid for most of our tastes.  Action over rhetoric.

I want to see some knocking heads.....

@catfish1957

*I* would like to see tanks doing 180 degree spins over everybody in the DNC,but it is neither realistic or practical.

Presidents can do or say many things,but without having the 'murikan publik behind them when they say or do it,they end up losing and out of office.

And we ALL know what the media response is going to be 24/7 if he ever sends in troops to bust heads and restore order.

I don't think there has ever been a time in the history of any nation before now that the leader spent 24/7 getting knives stuck in his back by being setup by both his opponents and most of the major players in his own party. Frankly,I am shocked he has done as well handling it as he has. Especially given  his perceived temperament.

IMNSHO,he is waiting for the "perfect moment" to strike back,when the Dims have finally gone so far the middle-class that normally ignores politics are fed up and start demanding the government do something to stop the anarchy. I THINK it is probably going to have to get to the point where ordinary citizens start doing this on local levels before it happens,though.

Also,I am honestly surprised the anarchists haven't declared war against America yet. I am pretty sure that would do it. Which may be why their masters won't let them.

[libertybele]

@libertybele

Odd how it was planned,started,and being continued by the Dims and their RINO butt-buddies,yet you people are blaming Trump.

Plan on voting RINO/Left in the upcoming election "cause all dis bees Trumps falts!"?

Ya right @sneakypete  I never said that it was ALL Trump's fault only that he had ample opportunity when this chaos first began to act and he didn't - now the country is paying the price.  Should I remind you that he publicly claimed that he was going to stop the chaos a long time ago -- right around the time that the anarchists tore down the barricades around the WH and the President took a walk across the street to St. John's .... now the chaos has spread and things are out of control....bigly. 

You're also assuming that this election is going to make a difference -- I'm not.  The demise of the country may possibly happen at a slower rate under Trump than Biden and the socialists, but the end result is going to be the same.

Stop with the if you don't vote for Trump you must be a DEM b.s.  IF Trump isn't going to take this country in a more positive direction -- then you are correct I won't be voting for him.  I will not be voting period other than I might vote for a couple of conservatives down ballot.

[libertybele]

It is odd... and no blame for the politicians in those cities and the people that voted them into office.... 

Of course the lack of action on the part of the mayor and governors are at fault, however, had Trump nipped all this noise in the bud when he first had a chance, the anarchists would have gotten the message early on that they wouldn't succeed; no, instead he makes idle threats and sends them the message that they can do what they want and get away with it.

[EdinVA]

Of course the lack of action on the part of the mayor and governors are at fault, however, had Trump nipped all this noise in the bud when he first had a chance, the anarchists would have gotten the message early on that they wouldn't succeed; no, instead he makes idle threats and sends them the message that they can do what they want and get away with it.

No, we would be in the midst of impeachment #... what number are we on again?

[Cyber Liberty]

Of course the lack of action on the part of the mayor and governors are at fault, however, had Trump nipped all this noise in the bud when he first had a chance, the anarchists would have gotten the message early on that they wouldn't succeed; no, instead he makes idle threats and sends them the message that they can do what they want and get away with it.

Sure.  There is no way the press could have a field day with "Hitler Trump" if he did that. 

[Smokin Joe]

Can we quit blaming the President for the current execution of a well organized and widespread Communist Plot?
Coming just after a coup attempt by a Communist infiltrated political Party
On the heels and maybe even in the midst of a viral Pandemic created in a Communist Lab,
let out by a Communist country,
Lied about by that same Communist Country and the "Health Organization" of a largely Communist Global organization.

There is one word which repeats there, which is the unifying thread through these events.

The setup the Communists are looking for is a Rematch of the streets of Berlin, playing Communists vs Fascists, and even though there are no fascists, they are trying to build the case to call someone one. Don't play into that.

The time will come to round up and deal with the lawbreakers and their enablers.
For now, they expose themselves and justify the charges which will be brought in the future. As they grw bold, more can see them for who they are.

[libertybele]

Can we quit blaming the President for the current execution of a well organized and widespread Communist Plot?
Coming just after a coup attempt by a Communist infiltrated political Party
On the heels and maybe even in the midst of a viral Pandemic created in a Communist Lab,
let out by a Communist country,
Lied about by that same Communist Country and the "Health Organization" of a largely Communist Global organization.

There is one word which repeats there, which is the unifying thread through these events.

The setup the Communists are looking for is a Rematch of the streets of Berlin, playing Communists vs Fascists, and even though there are no fascists, they are trying to build the case to call someone one. Don't play into that.

The time will come to round up and deal with the lawbreakers and their enablers.
For now, they expose themselves and justify the charges which will be brought in the future. As they grw bold, more can see them for who they are.

I am NOT blaming the President for the violence itself, nor am I blaming him for the failures of the city mayors and the governors of the state. I get that.  I am blaming him for making threats several times and not following through till things snowballed and got out of control.

This isn't the first time that he's made a statement(s) and backpedaled -- we are seeing the consequences of his bluffs.  Not acceptable.

[Cyber Liberty]

I am NOT blaming the President for the violence itself, nor am I blaming him for the failures of the city mayors and the governors of the state. I get that.  I am blaming him for making threats several times and not following through till things snowballed and got out of control.

This isn't the first time that he's made a statement(s) and backpedaled -- we are seeing the consequences of his bluffs.  Not acceptable.

You have been claiming that the President not swooping in and busting heads is wrong.  This is one of the very few things about which we disagree.

[libertybele]

You have been claiming that the President not swooping in and busting heads is wrong.  This is one of the very few things about which we disagree.

Not saying that he needed to "bust heads" -- only that he should have taken action the very first time that he threatened to do so -- he made that threat several times and now things are out of control.  As President you can't make threats and not follow through; you're threats or what you say then becomes meaningless; especially to thugs.

[Cyber Liberty]

Not saying that he needed to "bust heads" -- only that he should have taken action the very first time that he threatened to do so -- he made that threat several times and now things are out of control.  As President you can't make threats and not follow through; you're threats or what you say then becomes meaningless; especially to thugs.

You say "Toe-MAY-Toe," I say "Toe-MAH-Toe."  Some call what you say are "threats," "promises."  It's reasonable to give a warning before you drop the hammer.  On a small scale, the Mods deal with that here on a daily basis.  We warn before we kick ass.  Trump gave a warning, and they'd better heed it.  They won't, so there will be head breaking.  It's not time yet.  It will be when the hue and cry begins.

[libertybele]

You say "Toe-MAY-Toe," I say "Toe-MAH-Toe."  Some call what you say are "threats," "promises."  It's reasonable to give a warning before you drop the hammer.  On a small scale, the Mods deal with that here on a daily basis.  We warn before we kick ass.  Trump gave a warning, and they'd better heed it.  They won't, so there will be head breaking.  It's not time yet.  It will be when the hue and cry begins.

I'll just leave it as we need to just agree to disagree.  We shall see what happens.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Lanny Davis
@LannyDavis

Violent protesters lighting fires and using violence in Portland should wear @realDonaldTrump  buttons. That is who they are helping.Progressives in Portland need to call them out, including the Mayor.  ReTweet please. Don’t allow violent people help @realDonaldTrump

7:39 AM · Jul 27, 2020 from Travilah, MD·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/LannyDavis/status/1287714169551294464

[Cyber Liberty]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry when I read stuff from Lanny Davis, so I usually end up with a nervous chuckle.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Credit where credit is due, at least one of these morons is calling out the BS in Portland...

[XenaLee]

Not saying that he needed to "bust heads" -- only that he should have taken action the very first time that he threatened to do so -- he made that threat several times and now things are out of control.  As President you can't make threats and not follow through; you're threats or what you say then becomes meaningless; especially to thugs.

We've been over this issue and have already discussed the "timing" of what you think Trump should have already done.   Trump is playing this as he should....cautiously and smartly.   Right now... these riots are illustrating to American voters exactly what the leftist Democrats represent, what they're for and ok with, and how things would be if they are given ultimate power back in November.    At least, that's the message they're getting.   But those of us that know these leftists and know how they roll know that no such "protests" would be allowed by them if they were in complete control.   They would have sent in "the feds" so fast everyone's heads would spin.  (insert pic of jackbooted thugs snatching Elián González from his legal guardians and family)

What you want Trump to have done would have him already under another impeachment proceeding for "acting like a dictator" (something the left has already accused him of), IMO.   Making a threat and not following through with that threat is not impeachable.  Just...sayin.

[XenaLee]

Credit where credit is due, at least one of these morons is calling out the BS in Portland...

No, he's not really "calling out" the violence.  He's upset that the end result will help Trump at the election booth.   Something that makes me really happy.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

Of course the lack of action on the part of the mayor and governors are at fault, however, had Trump nipped all this noise in the bud when he first had a chance, the anarchists would have gotten the message early on that they wouldn't succeed; no, instead he makes idle threats and sends them the message that they can do what they want and get away with it.

Without an invitation from the state's political leadership, sending in federal troops would trigger a legal fight for the ages.  Had the President done this, the action would be on hold while it works its way (slowly) through the courts and ---- the riots would still be raging.

Sending Federal troops to guard federal property is perfectly legal ... and smart.  Feds are armed and on the ground busy upsetting the insurrectionists while Barr's DOJ is coordinating investigations and slapping federal charges on mommy's little angels.

If the people in the states affected should rise and say "we've had enough", POTUS has troops in place to move out.  If they don't, the people in every other state will vote "hell, no!" come November.

Sometimes you can't get what you want, but you can get what you need.   This is one of those times.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Andy Ngô
@MrAndyNgo

Antifa rioters are throwing Molotov cocktails toward federal officers at the courthouse. Earlier in the day, police found a cache of ready-made incendiary devices and fully loaded magazines. Video by @livesmattershow. #PortlandRiots

Video: 

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1287660333822144512

4:05 AM · Jul 27, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

Paging Jerry Nadler, please pick up the white courtesy phone.

[Right_in_Virginia]

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[catfish1957]

Cyclops Nadler in action today....