BREAKING: Footage shows George Floyd ATTACKING officers before he died

[roamer_1]

My opinion, because of all the second guessing by armchair cops and the crazy-ass rush to pronounce the officer guilty of racism and murder based on an arrest gone wrong in what is the inherent unpredictability of each encounter an officer faces. Cops are people, too. But, heck, let’s throw the white cop into the angry volcano. The suspect was black. Case closed.

That certainly is the case with most. And on a Conservative site at that. Heck, no one has even heard the officers' side of the story. Just_Guilty. Most just buy into the optics the MSM is selling, and in total ignorance of what was really going down.

What happened to innocent until proven guilty? What happened to the benefit of the doubt?
Let's get all the facts on the table before we crucify anyone. Especially a twenty year LEO veteran beat cop with two Medals of Valor.

Thank you - Good post.

[roamer_1]

I do get that. Sometimes the police act badly and they should be held accountable. The law should apply to them the same way it applies to everyone else. No issue with that whatsoever.

The issue is this specific case. The actual facts of this case matter and have zip to do with other cases.

That's right. Let's get past all the emoting and get to the facts of it. And ALLOW for the presumption of innocence and reasonable adherence to protocols until then.

[Victoria33]

That's right. Let's get past all the emoting and get to the facts of it. And ALLOW for the presumption of innocence and reasonable adherence to protocols until then.

@roamer_1
@Cyber Liberty

Dr. Boden (sp) doing the second autopsy, said the knee closed off both carotid arteries in his neck which stopped blood going to his brain.  I doubt a cop knows that will happen, doubt trainer says, "Cops, if you have a neck on the ground, and keep your knee on one side of the neck for --- minutes, guy will die." 

My opinion of what happened after I saw more film: I have seen film that happened before the film of his death.  Floyd had been handcuffed and cop put him in car; Floyd was thrashing around in back seat, cop still outside car trying to get him still.  Then, Floyd shifted to other side of car, and cops on that side got him and put him flat on ground.  EMTs were coming so cops stayed where they were until EMTs got there.  Floyd was 6 ft., 6 inches tall.  Cops don't generally deal with someone that tall - they were taking no chances, kept him down. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Unfortunately, the volcano god requires its sacrifice.

[Sighlass]

This has been a great thread to read through gang.... good back and forth, good points presented. My eyesight during this time is limited by circumstances (sitting in new huge easychair) by the distance from the screen, so I read a few posts and rest for a bit. The topic is cold by time I feel like commenting, but that is ok.

Love this forum because it digs like others don't.

[roamer_1]

Dr. Boden (sp) doing the second autopsy, said the knee closed off both carotid arteries in his neck which stopped blood going to his brain.  I doubt a cop knows that will happen, doubt trainer says, "Cops, if you have a neck on the ground, and keep your knee on one side of the neck for --- minutes, guy will die." 

Totally bullcrap. You will break his neck LONG before any blood is cut off, and long before airways are blocked. That's how I know that second autopsy is politically motivated and has nothing to do with the truth.

I will say it yet again: I have had the very same done to me. I know what it is. Your first clue that there was no pressure on that knee is that the guy is not screaming his fool head off... Any pressure hurts like holy hell. Yet this guy can lift his head AND his neck, AND is not screaming in pain.

He is not clamped down at all. I KNOW it. I been there.

My opinion of what happened after I saw more film: I have seen film that happened before the film of his death.  Floyd had been handcuffed and cop put him in car; Floyd was thrashing around in back seat, cop still outside car trying to get him still.  Then, Floyd shifted to other side of car, and cops on that side got him and put him flat on ground.  EMTs were coming so cops stayed where they were until EMTs got there.  Floyd was 6 ft., 6 inches tall.  Cops don't generally deal with someone that tall - they were taking no chances, kept him down.

That much is likely right... I know how they deal with me, and there are always plenty of em showing up for the same reason: I am big, and I have a jacket. I would expect and have received FAR worse. Mess with the bull, you get the horns, every single time. And the minute you comply, everything is nice and professional again, if not friendly even.

[roamer_1]

This has been a great thread to read through gang.... good back and forth, good points presented. My eyesight during this time is limited by circumstances (sitting in new huge easychair) by the distance from the screen, so I read a few posts and rest for a bit. The topic is cold by time I feel like commenting, but that is ok.

Love this forum because it digs like others don't.

You gotta work on getting your belly big enough that the laptop can sit level on top of it... Great place for the dinner plate too. 

[roamer_1]

Unfortunately, the volcano god requires its sacrifice.

That's really right... How that guy can ever get a fair trial is yet to be seen.

[skeeter]

That's right. Let's get past all the emoting and get to the facts of it.

Oh c’mon now be reasonable.

[DB]

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,403992.0.html

He had a lot more than a knee to the neck as shown in the video at the link above.

[roamer_1]

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,403992.0.html

He had a lot more than a knee to the neck as shown in the video at the link above.

I think that vid is biased.

Of course he had them all on him while he struggled. That's how it works.

[mortarman]

In the words of Mick Jager "Every cop's a criminal, and all the sinner's saints".

 

[Cyber Liberty]

That's really right... How that guy can ever get a fair trial is yet to be seen.

I doubt very much that he'll get a fair trial. 

[DB]

I hope they all had their body cams on so we have a actual record of what happened.

[Hoodat]

In the words of Mick Jager "Every cop's a criminal, and all the sinner's saints".

 

You got that right.

[Smokin Joe]

https://twitter.com/TheBruceMasters/status/1267368091291471873

How come I haven't seen this yet?

Anyone?

It doesn't necessarily excuse the cop's actions, but it puts things in a new light, IMO.

It only shows cops doing something in the back seat, not George. It isn't definitive at all. I'd like to see how he got from walking down the sidewalk to being knelt on by three police next to and wedged against the cruiser. Between body and dash cams ans surveillance video, it should all be there. Let's see the whole story.

[Smokin Joe]

Unfortunately, the volcano god requires its sacrifice.

No wonder there aren't  many virgins left...

[dfwgator]

This and the autopsy do not excuse this cop's tactics, but they do reduce the impact of the media's current narrative.

Oh, you mean like it did when they showed the part of the Rodney King video where Rodney attacked the cops?

[Gefn]

This has been a great thread to read through gang.... good back and forth, good points presented. My eyesight during this time is limited by circumstances (sitting in new huge easychair) by the distance from the screen, so I read a few posts and rest for a bit. The topic is cold by time I feel like commenting, but that is ok.

Love this forum because it digs like others don't.

Always comment! I’m drinking my first cup of coffee in the morning and reading threads after being asleep and logging off my iPad since 9pm. @Sighlass 

[DB]

It only shows cops doing something in the back seat, not George. It isn't definitive at all. I'd like to see how he got from walking down the sidewalk to being knelt on by three police next to and wedged against the cruiser. Between body and dash cams ans surveillance video, it should all be there. Let's see the whole story.

The link above has more detail: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,403829.msg2223242.html#msg2223242

[Smokin Joe]

The link above has more detail: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,403829.msg2223242.html#msg2223242

Thanks.

[Jazzhead]

This is being assumed by all to be a racist cop,  but did he pin Floyd's neck to the ground because he was black or because he was, what, 6 foot six and outweighed the cop by fifty pounds?

I'm not excusing what happened;  there was callous indifference here.    But I don't know that the cop would have behaved differently if Floyd were white.     

[Cyber Liberty]

This is being assumed by all to be a racist cop,  but did he pin Floyd's neck to the ground because he was black or because he was, what, 6 foot six and outweighed the cop by fifty pounds?

I'm not excusing what happened;  there was callous indifference here.    But I don't know that the cop would have behaved differently if Floyd were white.     

If the volcano is not fed with some sacrifices, the coming lava will destroy the village.  These cops may as well just give up, because there is no way they'll get a fair trial, and they will be jailed for a very long time.

There will be much applause, and the Gibsmedat crowd will have their prize, while race relations get set back another 50 years.

[Smokin Joe]

If the volcano is not fed with some sacrifices, the coming lava will destroy the village.  These cops may as well just give up, because there is no way they'll get a fair trial, and they will be jailed for a very long time.

There will be much applause, and the Gibsmedat crowd will have their prize, while race relations get set back another 50 years.

Yep and all to the delight of antifa and their masters, ultimately, among them Soros. This isn't any more spontaneous than a professional ball game.

America is being played, all around.

[DB]

He had serious heart disease and high blood pressure.
He was on Fentanyl, meth and pot when he died of a heart attack. How much of that heart attack is attributable to being strongly restrained has yet to be determined.
He had just used a fake 20 dollar bill at a business and was sitting in the drivers seat of a car on a public street high on drugs.
He resisted arrest and continued to resist arrest handcuffed in the back of the squad car.
The police called for ambulance while restraining him and were waiting for the ambulance to arrive.
He had face injuries that may have occurred in the back of the squad car. They may have pulled him out and restrained him because he was injuring himself and couldn't let him continue (speculation based on what is known). If that is the case that makes the claim that they totally disregarded his well being a lie.
Floyd was 6' 6 and a big man.
There were people standing around causing the officers to have to keep an eye them while keeping Floyd restrained. That distraction maybe why they didn't notice he stopped breathing.
There's been no mention (that I'm aware of) of the officers wearing body cams. If they were and were on - they better have been - then we should know definitely what happened in the back of the squad car.