It's time for Trump to come out and take command

[Right_in_Virginia]

Moveon.org was created out of the ashes of the Bush v Gore Florida recount if memory serves.

It started with the Clinton special counsel and the release of the Ken Starr report.

@txradioguy

[Mod1]

Let's keep it civil and on topic, please.

[Lando Lincoln]

Let's keep it civil and on topic, please.

Everyone is edgy.  Hell, I know I am.  I can't recall ever winning a forum disagreement.  Can't I try just one more time?

[txradioguy]

Yes. 

And don't leave out the illegal wiretapping, unmasking, independent counsel, threatening members of the Bush clan with prison, Bush's fraudulent impeachment with testimony rampant with perjuries --- (oh, and try to weave in how many officeholders called for Bush's impeachment ... you know, "the mother***er") 

Thanks.

Most of what you listed, happened to Bush.  Trying to make Trump out to be some Martyr who has experienced things no President has experienced before or after...is just silly.

[XenaLee]

He should do it sooner rather than later...There are so many conservative writers posting their stories about where is Trump that it will take hold with all groups. He is just giving the rats ammo to attack him...*hiding in the basement* isn't something I wrote...it is all over twitter.

If there is one thing that we have discovered about Trump... it's that he does things in "his own time".... and in his own way.

When he does speak to the nation....

I hope he verbally crucifies the idiot mayor of DC ....
yet another useless (or complicit) black female Democrat, while he's at it.   What good does an 11pm curfew do?   

[catfish1957]

I don't understand why you cannot handle even the mildest of criticism of Trump? Frankly, that's part of the job.

That's RIV's m.o. since I've been here.  His lack of objectivity is glaring, as he doesn't have the abiltiy to say even one iota of anything critical of DJT. Now that he's failing as a crisis leader, he's bailing on us. 

I was stoked and proud when DJT started with the looting and shooting comment.  He's gone limp since.

[aligncare]

I’m sorry, @txradioguy but, @Right_in_Virginia was right in her response to you.

Even with the litany of abuses that you correctly recounted that Bush was subjected to, it did not equal the illegal insurrection from deep state actors and the totality of the media attacks that President Trump had to endure. Close but no cigar. We’ll just have to agree to disagree.

[XenaLee]

Most of what you listed, happened to Bush.  Trying to make Trump out to be some Martyr who has experienced things no President has experienced before or after...is just silly.

Actually... no.  It's not.

They didn't try for the first four years of Bush's (either one) first term to impeach.   There also wasn't the 24/7 media assault from pressholes, leftie nighttime show hosts, and every other swingin D anti-Trumper.   So no, not most.   Not even half.   And let's not forget that in GWB's 2nd term, he was apparently sufficiently cowed by the deep state left and showed a different side (his globalist side).  Even IF Trump were to appear simalarly cowed going into his 2nd term, they would still continue the constant assault on him.   So your comment is what is ...."silly".

[txradioguy]

I’m sorry, @txradioguy but, @Right_in_Virginia was right in her response to you.

Even with the litany of abuses that you correctly recounted that Bush was subjected to, it did not equal the illegal insurrection from deep state actors and the totality of the media attacks that President Trump had to endure. Close but no cigar. We’ll just have to agree to disagree.

Actually it did.  But your fealty to all things Trump blinds you to that fact.

[DCPatriot]

I wonder why no news outlet is showing even a clip from the President's very eloquent speech on this subject from Saturday.

I'm also wondering why the thread with the video and transcript of the President's speech received one reply and 46 views @mystery-ak  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,403760.0.html

I'm starting to think few here and no one in the media really gives a damn what the President says ... but relish the opinion he's not saying enough.

@Weird Tolkienish Figure

What a shock!!   /s     Thank you, @Right_in_Virginia

Not only for your post, but that this thread has grown so quickly.   

[txradioguy]

Actually... no.  It's not.

They didn't try for the first four years of Bush's (either one) first term to impeach.   There also wasn't the 24/7 media assault from pressholes, leftie nighttime show hosts, and every other swingin D anti-Trumper.   So no, not most.   Not even half.   And let's not forget that in GWB's 2nd term, he was apparently sufficiently cowed by the deep state left and showed a different side (his globalist side).  Even IF Trump were to appear simalarly cowed going into his 2nd term, they would still continue the constant assault on him.   So your comment is what is ...."silly".

Your selective memory is duly noted.  They did try to impeach Bush 43 the first four years he was in office.  Several times.

He received criticism and in one case a member of his own party switching sides to the Dems to help them in the Senate.

Jumping Jim Jeffords ring a bell?

Look you guys can have your own set of memories from that time...that's your right.

But there's only one set of facts...and they aren't on your side in this argument.

[aligncare]

Actually it did.  But your fealty to all things Trump blinds you to that fact.

And I believe you have fealty—your word—towards hating all things Trump.

[DCPatriot]

That's RIV's m.o. since I've been here.  His lack of objectivity is glaring, as he doesn't have the abiltiy to say even one iota of anything critical of DJT. Now that he's failing as a crisis leader, he's bailing on us. 

I was stoked and proud when DJT started with the looting and shooting comment.  He's gone limp since.

LOL!  You criticize someone that's been here since day 1...and you still don't know that @Right_in_Virginia is a woman.   

[XenaLee]

Your selective memory is duly noted.  They did try to impeach Bush 43 the first four years he was in office.  Several times.

He received criticism and in one case a member of his own party switching sides to the Dems to help them in the Senate.

Jumping Jim Jeffords ring a bell?

Look you guys can have your own set of memories from that time...that's your right.

But there's only one set of facts...and they aren't on your side in this argument.

Ok, so I misspoke (still working on first cup of java).   They may have "tried" to impeach HWB... but they didn't.   And it wasn't an "ongoing, constant drum" of ""Impeach the M'fr" like it has been with Trump.   Trump isn't a martyr, but he sure as hell has been the most villified, demonized and attacked by the rabid, deep state left Republican president... so far.

[skeeter]

Actually... no.  It's not.

They didn't try for the first four years of Bush's (either one) first term to impeach.   There also wasn't the 24/7 media assault from pressholes, leftie nighttime show hosts, and every other swingin D anti-Trumper.   So no, not most.   Not even half.   And let's not forget that in GWB's 2nd term, he was apparently sufficiently cowed by the deep state left and showed a different side (his globalist side).  Even IF Trump were to appear simalarly cowed going into his 2nd term, they would still continue the constant assault on him.   So your comment is what is ...."silly".

You're right, @XenaLee. One doesn't have to be a member of the "Trump fan club" to acknowledge the absolutely unprecedented assault from nearly all quarters this guy has endured over the past four years.

Frankly I don't know why it would hurt anyone to do so, and if they cannot I wouldn't waste my time with them.

[truth_seeker]

He is a demented idiot.  It is so plainly obvious.

I very seriously doubt he will be the dem candidate.

His family is letting him embarrass himself in public, until the time he gets replaced.

[txradioguy]

And I believe you have fealty—your word—towards hating all things Trump.

You need some new material.  That little knee jerk response is old and stale.

My posts here prove that a lie.  I praise and stick up for him when he does something right or being unfairly attacked by the left.

And rightfully criticize him when he steps on his crank.  Just like any other Republican President in the almost 20 years I've been discussing politics on forums like this.

Why you guys insist Trump be put on some pedestal that you'd never do for another Republican President is beyond me.

[txradioguy]

You're right, @XenaLee. One doesn't have to be a member of the "Trump fan club" to acknowledge the absolutely unprecedented assault from nearly all quarters this guy has endured over the past four years.

Frankly I don't know why it would hurt anyone to do so, and if they cannot I wouldn't waste my time with them.

Before TDS...there was BDS...and it was just as bad if not worse by those on the left.

[catfish1957]

LOL!  You criticize someone that's been here since day 1...and you still don't know that @Right_in_Virginia is a woman.

Sorry, I'll try to make future posts gender nuetral.   

[aligncare]

LOL!  You criticize someone that's been here since day 1...and you still don't know that @Right_in_Virginia is a woman.

And one hell of a woman, too! @Right_in_Virginia

[XenaLee]

You're right, @XenaLee. One doesn't have to be a member of the "Trump fan club" to acknowledge the absolutely unprecedented assault from nearly all quarters this guy has endured over the past four years.

Frankly I don't know why it would hurt anyone to do so, and if they cannot I wouldn't waste my time with them.

I don't feel like it's a waste of time.  When I see a comment so devoid of reality.. I am compelled to respond....lol. 

And yeah, I am more pissed off now than ever before... because I know exactly what and who is behind all of this mayhem and destruction (get Trump... again/still/ad infinitum).

The radical left thinks they want that next civil war?   They better be careful what they wish for.

[skeeter]

Before TDS...there was BDS...and it was just as bad if not worse by those on the left.

I've been paying close attention to the political scene since Reagan. I was as p*ssed off as anyone at the treatment republicans have received over the past 40 years.

I've never seen anything like we're seeing today. Not even close.


And I don't understand turning it into a p*ssing contest. You can hate Trump's guts and still acknowledge the plain truth.

[catfish1957]

And one hell of a woman, too! @Right_in_Virginia

Hey there's no denyng her tenacity and conviction.  I will grant that.

Objectivity OTOH?......

[Mod1]

You've been asked once to be civil. Do not make this thread about attacking fellow TBR members.

[txradioguy]

I've been paying close attention to the political scene since Reagan. I was as p*ssed off as anyone at the treatment republicans have received over the past 40 years.

I've never seen anything like we're seeing today. Not even close.

Yup he was a washed up B Movie actor that was going to start WW III.