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Fauci: 'Quite evident' that hydroxychloroquine does not treat COVID-19
by Cassidy Morrison
 | May 27, 2020 11:40 AM



Top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci said Wednesday that it’s “quite evident” that hydroxychloroquine is not an effective coronavirus treatment.

“The scientific data is really quite evident now about the lack of efficacy for it and even the possibility that... there’s the likelihood that under certain circumstances, might be rare, but you’d see it, adverse events,” Fauci told CNN Wednesday.

Fauci’s comment came after France's Ministry of Solidarity and Health decided Wednesday to ban the use of hydroxychloroquine as a cure because it has been found not only to be an ineffective treatment but also to increase the risk of death.

“Whether in town or in hospital, this molecule should not be prescribed for Covid-19 patients,” the health ministry said in a statement Wednesday.

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Did he use any Zinc supplements?

I thought not.

HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MURDERED TO TRY TO DISCREDIT THIS PHARMACOLOGY:

Hydroxychloroquine    /    Azithromycin (or other Macrolide Antiboitic)    /    Zinc Sulfate
(Ionophore)             (Reduces immune response, wards off bacteria)         (Provides Zinc ions to be transported
                                                                                                           into the cell to stop viral replication)

Ideally, this should be administered early as possible with the objective of stopping viral replication before the patient requires hospitalization.


From https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/massive-new-study-shows-malaria-drug-touted-by-trump-increases-risk-of-death, Massive new study shows malaria drug touted by Trump increases risk of death, an article linked in the article in the OP
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In a new report published Friday by the medical journal the Lancet, researchers compiled medical records from 96,032 COVID-19 patients from 671 hospitals across six continents. About 15,000 patients were given hydroxychloroquine, which Trump has said he is taking as a prophylactic measure, or its relative chloroquine, and the study found that the drug was ineffective at treating patients with the coronavirus.

Instead, researchers found that patients on hydroxychloroquine had a 34% increased risk of dying and a 137% increased risk of life-threatening heart arrhythmia. For those taking hydroxychloroquine in combination with an antibiotic, chloroquine alone, or chloroquine with an antibiotic, the risks were even higher.

“It’s one thing not to have benefit, but this shows distinct harm,” Eric Topol, a cardiologist and director of the Scripps Research Translational Institute, told the Washington Post. “If there was ever hope for this drug, this is the death of it.”


First, these patients were already hospitalized, which is a situation where their disease has progressed considerably.

Not one word about Zinc.

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Did he use any Zinc supplements?

Of course not.  The point here is to deny the life-saving zinc to patients given hydroxychloroquine so that they have a much greater chance of dying, and so that their deaths can be used to smear Trump.
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Of course not.  The point here is to deny the life-saving zinc to patients given hydroxychloroquine so that they have a much greater chance of dying, and so that their deaths can be used to smear Trump.
That is what I have noticed. Either the regimen was given after patients were critical or on vent, or the zinc was left out, or both, virtually guaranteeing a bad outcome.

It's like sending a fleet of semis for food relief for a starving multitude and not putting any food in the trucks, then claiming the food relief didn't work and trucks should be banned.
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That is what I have noticed. Either the regimen was given after patients were critical or on vent, or the zinc was left out, or both, virtually guaranteeing a bad outcome.

It's like sending a fleet of semis for food relief for a starving multitude and not putting any food in the trucks, then claiming the food relief didn't work and trucks should be banned.

Shaddup Smoke, and listen to your betters. Because science.

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I have seen and read enough lately about Fauci to really quesiton how many of his professional decisons are politically biased. 
No 100% proof, but a shame if he has now "whored" himself for the left.
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I have seen and read enough lately about Fauci to really quesiton how many of his professional decisons are politically biased. 
No 100% proof, but a shame if he has now "whored" himself for the left.

No, hes whoring himself to Bill Gates.

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Shaddup Smoke, and listen to your betters. Because science.

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But I are a scientist!

And science will take 100 years to recover from the last 30. **nononono*
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But I are a scientist!

And science will take 100 years to recover from the last 30. **nononono*

Yeah, the way you think you'd best watch out, or they'll take away your birthday...
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Yeah, the way you think you'd best watch out, or they'll take away your birthday...
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Yeah, well, they have 366 shots, counting leap years. At this age, I don't use it much, anyway.

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Don't worry...wait a couple days and he'll declare HCQ the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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Yeah, well, they have 366 shots, counting leap years. At this age, I don't use it much, anyway.

It's fun to use that gray as a weapon. This ain't my first Rodeo.

I dunno. That's a tough row to hoe. When you know damn well you're right, but all the younguns in their rebellion bow down to the hierarchy in their ignorance. Lemming flavored Koolaid.


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Don't worry...wait a couple days and he'll declare HCQ the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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I dunno. That's a tough row to hoe. When you know damn well you're right, but all the younguns in their rebellion bow down to the hierarchy in their ignorance. Lemming flavored Koolaid.
With or without the shot of seawater?

I'm not so sure about the young-uns. Maybe after a few years of college indoctrination they'll bite; after all, a big part of that is convincing them how smart they are.
 
But the blue collar 'kids' often got sick of being lied to even before they got out of High School. There is a lot there some of those 'smart' people are missing, an entire generation who know they've been lied to and resent it.
It's those 17-18 year olds, declared for the last time as a dependent, who are ineligible for any of the COVID compensation, who often gave up their jobs, their social lives, the last season at their sport (and best shot at college), who didn't even have a graduation ceremony, who are going to be 18 shades of ticked off if the Dems and flunkies can't keep the whole lockdown/mask up/give up your rights/wesa gonna diee! thingy going.

A lot of them will vote in their first POTUS election this fall, and folks need to make sure they know who was screwing them so they can get it right.
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