Trump promotes conspiracy theory accusing MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough of murder

[Chosen Daughter]

It’s come to this
 

When will they open a Cold Case on the Psycho Joe Scarborough matter in Florida. Did he get away with murder? Some people think so. Why did he leave Congress so quietly and quickly? Isn’t it obvious? What’s happening now? A total nut job!

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/05/12/trump-promotes-conspiracy-theory-accusing-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-of-murder-1283498

Trump promotes conspiracy theory accusing MSNBC’s Joe Scarborough of murder

By QUINT FORGEY 05/12/2020 09:45 AM EDT

“When will they open a Cold Case on the Psycho Joe Scarborough matter in Florida. Did he get away with murder? Some people think so,” Trump wrote. “Why did he leave Congress so quietly and quickly? Isn’t it obvious? What’s happening now? A total nut job!”

Trump was apparently referring to the 2001 death of Lori Klausutis, who worked as a staffer in Scarborough’s Fort Walton Beach, Fla., office when he served as a Republican House lawmaker from Florida’s 1st congressional district.

Klausutis’ autopsy revealed she had an undiagnosed heart condition, and a coroner concluded she died after passing out and hitting her head in a fall, according to The Associated Press. She was not struck by another person, the coroner said, and Scarborough was in Washington at the time of her death.

https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/05/12/trump-promotes-conspiracy-theory-accusing-msnbcs-joe-scarborough-of-murder-1283498

EDIT BY MODERATOR: Title of thread has been changed to reflect the actual title of the cited article.

[mortarman]

Lori Klausutis did not hit herself on the head.

 

[Chosen Daughter]

Lori Klausutis did not hit herself on the head.

 

I wonder if he got that from Vince McMahon or Jesse Ventura? 

[PeteS in CA]

Scarborough's employer is the Russia-obsessed CTNBC.

[Applewood]

Lori Klausutis did not hit herself on the head.

 

Read the article.  The coroner concluded the lady had a cardiac event, fell down and hit her head when she fell.   

This conspiracy theory is about as valid as the ones Trump and his followers promoted during the primary in 2016 about Ted Cruz and his family.  And I'll say what I said in 2016 and have said every time Trump and his allies put out some conspiracy theory:  Show me the proof. 

There is none. 

[Cyber Liberty]

Read the article.  The coroner concluded the lady had a cardiac event, fell down and hit her head when she fell.   

This conspiracy theory is about as valid as the ones Trump and his followers promoted during the primary in 2016 about Ted Cruz and his family.  And I'll say what I said in 2016 and have said every time Trump and his allies put out some conspiracy theory:  Show me the proof. 

There is none.

You mean like the Conspiracy Theory Trump was shopping around about having his phones "tapped," and being spied on by the Democrats?

[Applewood]

You mean like the Conspiracy Theory Trump was shopping around about having his phones "tapped," and being spied on by the Democrats?

Don't know about that one.  Was it ever proven?

[Axeslinger]

Read the article.  The coroner concluded the lady had a cardiac event, fell down and hit her head when she fell.   

This conspiracy theory is about as valid as the ones Trump and his followers promoted during the primary in 2016 about Ted Cruz and his family.  And I'll say what I said in 2016 and have said every time Trump and his allies put out some conspiracy theory:  Show me the proof. 

There is none.

And a certain Briefer was still pushing that nonsense as late as yesterday because her Lord and Savior DJT said so.

[Absalom]

Read the article.  The coroner concluded the lady had a cardiac event, fell down and hit her head when she fell.   
This conspiracy theory is about as valid as the ones Trump and his followers promoted during the primary in 2016 about Ted Cruz and his family.  Show me the proof. There is none.

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A word of caution when you introduce reason into the gossip of usual suspects;
you'll create another thunderstorm of posts lasting days, if not weeks!

[Bigun]

Read the article.  The coroner concluded the lady had a cardiac event, fell down and hit her head when she fell.   

This conspiracy theory is about as valid as the ones Trump and his followers promoted during the primary in 2016 about Ted Cruz and his family.  And I'll say what I said in 2016 and have said every time Trump and his allies put out some conspiracy theory:  Show me the proof. 

There is none.

Yeah yeah yeah!  Back during the Billy Sol Estes affair one of LBJ's associates was found dead in a motel room with a single shot .22 rifle laying on the floor.  He had been shot 11 times in the back.  The coroner ruled it a suicide.

[Applewood]

Yeah yeah yeah!  Back during the Billy Sol Estes affair one of LBJ's associates was found dead in a motel room with a single shot .22 rifle laying on the floor.  He had been shot 11 times in the back.  The coroner ruled it a suicide.

And the connection to this case is...?

Look, I'm not saying coroners are perfect. One of the most mistake-prone is an arrogant Btd named Cyril Wecht, who is often seen on tv when there is a discussion about a high-profile case.  He conducted an autopsy on a friend's son who died unexpectedly.  Took him almost six months to issue a report (the young man wasn't a high profile case I guess) and the report was full of errors.  For example, the young man was described as being 6'2" with blond hair and blue eyes.  My friend's son was 5'10" with dark hair and brown eyes.  A sloppy job indeed.

However, in this case, I believe there are ways to tell whether a blow to the head was accidental or murder.  I'm trying to find the actual autopsy report -- so far, just reports on its contents -- but according to the reports, it seems the angle and nature of the wound indicated the deceased did indeed strike her head on the desk.   A blow to the head by an object such as a baseball bat would have caused a different kind of wound from the one the decedent suffered.  Her wound was caused by her head striking an object, not an object striking her head.

So now are you going to tell me the coroner was paid off by Scarborough or someone on his behalf? 

Not every sudden death is sinister.  People do die suddenly and from causes other than murder.

[Cyber Liberty]

You mean like the Conspiracy Theory Trump was shopping around about having his phones "tapped," and being spied on by the Democrats?

Don't know about that one.  Was it ever proven?

You tell me.  Byron York, December 11, 2019:

Of course the FBI spied on the Trump campaign

The great debate about whether the FBI spied on the Trump campaign continues. The question is why there is still any argument. The newly released report from Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz shows that by any definition the FBI did indeed spy.

The proof is in the details of the report. In addition to the much-discussed wiretap of Trump campaign foreign policy adviser Carter Page, Horowitz discussed the bureau's use of what is called a CHS (a confidential human source, or, in more common terms, an informant) and a UCE (an undercover employee, or a secret agent) to gather information from at least three targets in the Trump campaign. One was Page, another was George Papadopoulos, also a member of the advisory team, and the third was an unnamed "high-level Trump campaign official who was not a subject of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation."

Horowitz described "multiple CHS operations undertaken by the Crossfire Hurricane team." There were "numerous CHS interactions with Page and Papadopoulos." There was the CHS contact with the high-level campaign official. And then there were "additional CHSs" who attempted to contact Papadopoulos but did not succeed.

All the meetings and conversations were secretly recorded by the FBI.

(Snip)

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/of-course-the-fbi-spied-on-the-trump-campaign

It was in all the papers last December....

[Applewood]

You tell me.  Byron York, December 11, 2019:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/columnists/of-course-the-fbi-spied-on-the-trump-campaign

It was in all the papers last December....

Thank you.  Admittedly, I did not follow this story closely.  So I did a little additional digging.  It seems that in Horowitz's report he said he found no evidence of political bias in the Russia investigation or that the FBI placed an informant in the campaign.  But during senate hearings Horowitz said he could not rule out political bias.    Sounds like he may have said one thing in his report and something else in the hearing.  I don't know.   

But from what I understand, there is a DOJ investigation into this matter going on.  I'd like to see what the DOJ comes up with before I believe anything about this.

Now this Scarborough "murder," Rafael Cruz conspired with Oswald to kill JFK, the 300 or so supposed  murders at the hands of the Clintons or someone on their behalf -- please tell me you don't believe this bullcrap?

[Cyber Liberty]

Now this Scarborough "murder," Rafael Cruz conspired with Oswald to kill JFK, the 300 or so supposed  murders at the hands of the Clintons or someone on their behalf -- please tell me you don't believe this bullcrap?

I don't believe any of that crap, and Q is full of shit from all animals.  JMHO.

[Applewood]

I don't believe any of that crap, and Q is full of shit from all animals.  JMHO.

Thanks you.  I'm amazed at how many people do subscribe to a whole lot of nonsense.  These are often well educated people too.  Somewhere along the line they lost all reason, logic and the ability to question what they see and hear.   

[Cyber Liberty]

Thanks you.  I'm amazed at how many people do subscribe to a whole lot of nonsense.  These are often well educated people too.  Somewhere along the line they lost all reason, logic and the ability to question what they see and hear.

I may be a PITA Admin, but I don't buy Boogieman crap.  I'm too old and saw too many of these things.   

[Chosen Daughter]

Just out of the blue the President of the United States of American decides to throw out a conspiracy theory.

[Smokin Joe]

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A word of caution when you introduce reason into the gossip of usual suspects;
you'll create another thunderstorm of posts lasting days, if not weeks!

Another fifty page pool-pah*?

^From Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle.

[Night Hides Not]

Just out of the blue the President of the United States of American decides to throw out a conspiracy theory.

Keep him away from watching "Apollo 18"! He might think it's a documentary!   

[Chosen Daughter]

Keep him away from watching "Apollo 18"! He might think it's a documentary!   

The way he "rolls".   

[roamer_1]

This conspiracy theory is about as valid as the ones Trump and his followers promoted during the primary in 2016 about Ted Cruz and his family.  And I'll say what I said in 2016 and have said every time Trump and his allies put out some conspiracy theory:  Show me the proof. 

There is none.

And for all that, btw... For all the crap he laid on Cruz and others to 'win'....
Turnabout is fair play.

That is largely why I don't care what the press does to Tumpy.
And largely why I don't believe a damn thing he says.
And that's on him. He made his bed. Let him lay in it.

[Chosen Daughter]

And for all that, btw... For all the crap he laid on Cruz and others to 'win'....
Turnabout is fair play.

That is largely why I don't care what the press does to Tumpy.
And largely why I don't believe a damn thing he says.
And that's on him. He made his bed. Let him lay in it.

Darn right.  His incompetency and insecurity is what feeds the press.  How could anyone believe a thing he says, or even take him seriously?

[roamer_1]

Darn right.  His incompetency and insecurity is what feeds the press.  How could anyone believe a thing he says, or even take him seriously?

Pretty much.

[Bigun]

And the connection to this case is...?

Look, I'm not saying coroners are perfect. One of the most mistake-prone is an arrogant Btd named Cyril Wecht, who is often seen on tv when there is a discussion about a high-profile case.  He conducted an autopsy on a friend's son who died unexpectedly.  Took him almost six months to issue a report (the young man wasn't a high profile case I guess) and the report was full of errors.  For example, the young man was described as being 6'2" with blond hair and blue eyes.  My friend's son was 5'10" with dark hair and brown eyes.  A sloppy job indeed.

However, in this case, I believe there are ways to tell whether a blow to the head was accidental or murder.  I'm trying to find the actual autopsy report -- so far, just reports on its contents -- but according to the reports, it seems the angle and nature of the wound indicated the deceased did indeed strike her head on the desk.   A blow to the head by an object such as a baseball bat would have caused a different kind of wound from the one the decedent suffered.  Her wound was caused by her head striking an object, not an object striking her head.

So now are you going to tell me the coroner was paid off by Scarborough or someone on his behalf? 

Not every sudden death is sinister.  People do die suddenly and from causes other than murder.

A "Conspiracy theory" these days is any thought that does not comport with the leftist view of things.  it has become a major part of the cultural Marxism lexicon of words and phrases they use to shut down speech they don't like.  It doesn't work with me.

[Applewood]

A "Conspiracy theory" these days is any thought that does not comport with the leftist view of things.  it has become a major part of the cultural Marxism lexicon of words and phrases they use to shut down speech they don't like.  It doesn't work with me.

Conspiracy theories are  the product of hateful people with a lot of time on their hands to invent imaginary wrongdoing by someone they dislike for the purpose of destroying that person.  Someone doesn't like Hillary, so every sudden death of every person even remotely connected to her has to have been murder.  In this case Trump doesn't like Scarborough, so he "casually" mentions a conspiracy theory that Scarborough murdered his girlfriend.  Unfortunately, there are enough gullible people who believe these theories without even looking for the truth.  After all, if it's on the internet, it must be true, right?