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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2020, 08:45:04 pm »

I don't understand your question.

 Ted Cruz is born of CUBAN REFUGEE dad and jewish American mother in CANADA.  He had dual citizenship, which he renounced, to be able to run for president of USA.  I once supported Ted Cruz.  NOT ANY MORE, once I saw how he lied and how underhanded he is, was, still is.  TEA PARTY IS CORRECT.  Why would TEA PARTY MEMBERS LIE? 

Ted supports anything, that would make him look good to the public, like supporting TRUMP.  Riding his coat tails. POTUS USES DIPLOMACY IN DEALING WITH HIM.  I would not turn my back on Cruz.
Everyone will vote for whomever they want.  I just gave my issues & points about "lying Ted". I SAW those lies with my own, eyes & ears.  I DO NOT TRUST HIM ONE TINY BIT.  Do I need to detail those lies?

The statement was made that he was a member of the North American Union.
That 'union' is comprised of three countries.
It is not a labor union.
Don't make me put my cap lock key back on the keyboard.
I don't care how loud you say something, that doesn't make it any more true.

The greatest truths in history were spoken in a soft voice.

I saw what happened when in the election, and don't make me go back into the primary campaign and show you who is the liar. There's no gain in it for anyone, and especially the country at this point.
Relativity. I wasn't on the train and the view was different from the platform.

The MSM didn't want Ted, and they thought they could beat Trump.
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #26 on: May 09, 2020, 08:49:31 pm »
The statement was made that he was a member of the North American Union.
That 'union' is comprised of three countries.
It is not a labor union.
Don't make me put my cap lock key back on the keyboard.
I don't care how loud you say something, that doesn't make it any more true.

The greatest truths in history were spoken in a soft voice.

I saw what happened when in the election, and don't make me go back into the primary campaign and show you who is the liar. There's no gain in it for anyone, and especially the country at this point.
Relativity. I wasn't on the train and the view was different from the platform.

The MSM didn't want Ted, and they thought they could beat Trump.

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« Last Edit: May 09, 2020, 08:52:16 pm by libertybele »
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #27 on: May 09, 2020, 08:50:10 pm »
Yep ... we've been down this road before, so, I'm not going to go back and forth on the issue.  TPP is one issue.  All in all,I still like Cruz and I'd have no hesitation in voting for him.  I think he would make an excellent President, AG or SCOTUS justice.

You have the right to vote for whomever you want.  It is the fact that TED said, he was lied to and didn't KNOW what he was signing. HE DIDN'T READ IT?  He is an attorney. HE LIED.  He is supposed to read what he signs for the AMERICAN PEOPLE.  He would make a very BAD president. GLOBALIST POLITICIAN.  If he says, HE WAS LIED TO ABOUT TTP. 
You want someone that does not KNOW what he is signing?  Blames others?  Either way, he did NOT do his JOB.

HE LIED ABOUT BEING LIED TO, AND HAS TO ADMIT HE DID NOT READ WHAT HE WAS SIGNING, OR CLAIM TO BE A GLOBALIST.  NWO. North American UNION.   It is in your face & you still would vote for him? 

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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #28 on: May 09, 2020, 08:53:03 pm »
Now I realize I was wrong to take some people off Ignore.   888mouth
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #29 on: May 09, 2020, 09:00:12 pm »
The statement was made that he was a member of the North American Union.
That 'union' is comprised of three countries.
It is not a labor union.
Don't make me put my cap lock key back on the keyboard.
I don't care how loud you say something, that doesn't make it any more true.

The greatest truths in history were spoken in a soft voice.

I saw what happened when in the election, and don't make me go back into the primary campaign and show you who is the liar. There's no gain in it for anyone, and especially the country at this point.
Relativity. I wasn't on the train and the view was different from the platform.

The MSM didn't want Ted, and they thought they could beat Trump.


I know it is not a labor union.

 It was about uniting CANADA, North America and South America...as one. I saw what happened in the election too.  TED LYING ABOUT WHO WAS DROPPING out in the race, lied, then received those votes, intended for those who were still running.  Ted is a liar.  Out & out liar.

We will have to agree to disagree on this.

. Women have great memories. I used to have photographic memory. I didn't know, it was rare. I though everyone was like that. 

 When people start talking about my caps...I am a very lousy typist. Caps don't turn off sometimes and I just keep typing to get my thoughts down.


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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #30 on: May 09, 2020, 09:02:55 pm »
Now I realize I was wrong to take some people off Ignore.   888mouth


Stay in denial...many people like that place.  See, you don't want any truth to interfere in your thinking.  Time will prove me correct. Even TEA PARTY..sees who TED IS....

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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #31 on: May 09, 2020, 09:07:28 pm »
In the past I would rise to defend Cruz against the scurrilous charges made against him hereon, not the leas of which, the Dominionist bullcrap.

Everything listed against him here is pure-D bullcrap wrt TPP... Dominionism, Canadian ... All of it.

Except the Tea Party charge.
YES, Cruz has moved far to the left. FAR. To be in line with Tumpy. He ran off and joined the circus.
I very likely will not vote for him anymore.

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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #32 on: May 09, 2020, 09:09:17 pm »
Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO

Tea Party Main Street's
Republican Party Base

excerpt from website:

Senate Rinos Publicly Protecting Immigrants By Opposing Tariffs On Mexico 6-2-2019

Sen. Mitch McConnell
Sen. Joni Ernst
Sen. Ron Johnson
Sen. Cory Gardner
Sen. John Cornyn
Sen. Ted Cruz
Sen. Rob Portman

https://teapartymainstreet.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-2020-rino-list-begins-to-grow-as.html

Justin Amash used to be Tea Party darlin.

Well its the Trump party now.  No tea left.


I agree with most of that list.  JUSTIN AMASH is another RINO. He & his family have business's in CHINA and oppose TRUMP.  AMASH'S roots are in PALESTINE=HAMAS...he now claims to be an independent.  Our country is being over taken by muslims.  OMAR.  When people find out the truth about the RINO'S...they call them out.  Mitch has always ridden the fence.  Notice a pattern?  PORTMAN. OH. JUNE 2019?  do have some thing current?  A year ago?
--------------------------------

The 12 Senate Republicans who voted AGAINST NATIONAL EMERGENCY AT BORDER.  (NOT TO MENTION ALL THE DEMON-RATS)

 Roger Wicker of Mississippi,
Marco Rubio of Florida,

 Rob Portman of Ohio,

 Susan Collins of Maine,
 Lisa Murkowski of Alaska,
Pat Toomey of Pennsylvania,
 Roy Blunt of Missouri,
 Lamar Alexander of Tennessee,
 Mitt Romney of Utah,

 Rand Paul of Kentucky,
Jerry Moran of Kansas
and Mike Lee of Utah.

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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #33 on: May 09, 2020, 09:19:30 pm »
Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO

Tea Party Main Street's
Republican Party Base

excerpt from website:

Senate Rinos Publicly Protecting Immigrants By Opposing Tariffs On Mexico 6-2-2019

Sen. Mitch McConnell
Sen. Joni Ernst
Sen. Ron Johnson
Sen. Cory Gardner
Sen. John Cornyn
Sen. Ted Cruz
Sen. Rob Portman

https://teapartymainstreet.blogspot.com/2019/04/the-2020-rino-list-begins-to-grow-as.html

Justin Amash used to be Tea Party darlin.

Well its the Trump party now.  No tea left.

WHY are you agitating people with something A YEAR OLD? 


SUNDAY, APRIL 14, 2019

The 2020 Rino List Begins To Grow As Republican Representatives Go Against The "Republican Party Base"
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2020, 10:28:41 pm »

I know it is not a labor union.

 It was about uniting CANADA, North America and South America...as one. I saw what happened in the election too.  TED LYING ABOUT WHO WAS DROPPING out in the race, lied, then received those votes, intended for those who were still running.  Ted is a liar.  Out & out liar.

We will have to agree to disagree on this.

. Women have great memories. I used to have photographic memory. I didn't know, it was rare. I though everyone was like that. 

 When people start talking about my caps...I am a very lousy typist. Caps don't turn off sometimes and I just keep typing to get my thoughts down.
You are free to disagree, but the proposed North American Union did not have anything to do with South America. It comprised Canada, the United States, and Mexico, going from north to south.

I also happened to see the CNN broadcast about how Carson was dropping out and going home, before one of Cruz's staffers tweeted that he had dropped out based on CNN's erroneous information.

I know what was going on.
Trump had sucked up to the Governor and GOP of Iowa over enforcing Ethanol mandates, and Cruz has said he'd remove them and let the market decide.
It's a big issue in Iowa, and the Governor's son was employed in the Ethanol Lobby, and the Governor himself was credited with the statement that 'Cruz had to be defeated, whatever it takes' over that exact issue, even as Cruz had convinced farmers otherwise in a brillinat ground game.

Cruz won the primary and the sh*tstorm started, complete with "lyin' ted' and the Pecker* at National Enquirer releasing hit pieces throughout the primary season aimed at specific regional audiences in time for their primaries in a well timed and executed smear campaign that even lied about Cruz's wife and father. 

*https://www.businessinsider.com/david-pecker-bio-photos-national-enquirer-publisher-bezos-trump-links
« Last Edit: May 09, 2020, 10:33:10 pm by Smokin Joe »
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2020, 10:36:42 pm »
Voting against unnecessary tariffs is very much a Conservative thing to do from a fiscal standpoint. 

Not sure why this blog would want to paint Cruz as a RINO.

That's because it's a shit "blog."  :shrug:
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2020, 10:54:18 pm »
That's because it's a shit "blog."  :shrug:

Yet another proof against "conservative hub"

--most prolific poster admits to socialism

--year old article claiming Sen. Cruz to be a Rino

Does the owner and moderation of this site, think suck crap is anything but a contiuous slide into uselessness?

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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2020, 10:55:26 pm »
Yet another proof against "conservative hub"

--most prolific poster admits to socialism

--year old article claiming Sen. Cruz to be a Rino

Does the owner and moderation of this site, think suck crap is anything but a contiuous slide into uselessness?
Who is the most prolific poster?
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2020, 11:05:54 pm »
Yet another proof against "conservative hub"

--most prolific poster admits to socialism

--year old article claiming Sen. Cruz to be a Rino

Does the owner and moderation of this site, think suck crap is anything but a contiuous slide into uselessness?

No, the owner and Mods think this "hub" will die if we tailor it to fit the desires of one side or the other of this "war."  Do you think you might be unhappy if we decide to arbitrarily exclude "your side?"  A lot of voices say Trump is not "conservative."  Is your opinion more important than theirs?

Stop attacking the forum.  We don't want to have to create a new rule.
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2020, 11:08:47 pm »
Who is the most prolific poster?

The most "prolific" poster on the Forum is, according to the stats, the much-maligned owner of the place.  By far at over 295,000 posts.  I'm 4th.
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2020, 11:37:32 pm »
You are free to disagree, but the proposed North American Union did not have anything to do with South America. It comprised Canada, the United States, and Mexico, going from north to south.

I also happened to see the CNN broadcast about how Carson was dropping out and going home, before one of Cruz's staffers tweeted that he had dropped out based on CNN's erroneous information.

I know what was going on.
Trump had sucked up to the Governor and GOP of Iowa over enforcing Ethanol mandates, and Cruz has said he'd remove them and let the market decide.
It's a big issue in Iowa, and the Governor's son was employed in the Ethanol Lobby, and the Governor himself was credited with the statement that 'Cruz had to be defeated, whatever it takes' over that exact issue, even as Cruz had convinced farmers otherwise in a brillinat ground game.

Cruz won the primary and the sh*tstorm started,
complete with "lyin' ted' and the Pecker* at National Enquirer releasing hit pieces throughout the primary season aimed at specific regional audiences in time for their primaries in a well timed and executed smear campaign that even lied about Cruz's wife and father. 

*https://www.businessinsider.com/david-pecker-bio-photos-national-enquirer-publisher-bezos-trump-links

Exactly.  Most people have gotten past  #NeverTrump and the #Never Cruz movements.  It's really a shame that people hate Trump so much, that they now hate Ted for agreeing with Trump when he thinks he's correct.

To post a blog, which is often usually nothing more than a glorified opinion, and proclaim it as fact based evidence against Cruz to me only demonstrates their hatred for Trump is so deep that anyone (in this case Cruz) that agrees with Trump is now their target as well.

This country is in dire straits and if we aren't successful in avoiding placing a DEM in the WH in 2020, we lose our Republic.  But, hell, no, they'd rather see socialism and lose our Republic all the while declaring they are doing so because of their principles.

First and foremost I for one firmly believe in this Republic and feel it is my duty to try to keep her!! Otherwise, what do we have? :patriot:
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #41 on: May 10, 2020, 12:09:30 am »
When conservatism is the issue, suggest the usual suspects take a lengthy time out.
Aristotle articulated its principles, then some 1,000 years later William of Occam reinforced
them and in the 18th century, Edmund Burke refined them.
Directly stated; Principled Conservatism is a body of timeless/unchanging
rules which are the basis for human conduct and necessary for Mankind to survive.
These rules involve attitudes, behaviors, impulses and sentiments about Man's nature,
derived from the Natural Law and being independent of economics, politics and religion.
Whether or not Cruz is a Rhino, a Buffalo or a Hippo has nothing to do w/whether or not
he is a conservative!!!
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #42 on: May 10, 2020, 12:17:43 am »
When conservatism is the issue, suggest the usual suspects take a lengthy time out.
Aristotle articulated its principles, then some 1,000 years later William of Occam reinforced
them and in the 18th century, Edmund Burke refined them.
Directly stated; Principled Conservatism is a body of timeless/unchanging
rules which are the basis for human conduct and necessary for Mankind to survive.
These rules involve attitudes, behaviors, impulses and sentiments about Man's nature,
being independent of economics, politics and religion.
Whether or not Cruz is a Rhino, a Buffalo or a Hippo has nothing to do w/whether or not
he is a conservative!!!

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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #43 on: May 10, 2020, 03:23:36 am »
In the past I would rise to defend Cruz against the scurrilous charges made against him hereon, not the leas of which, the Dominionist bullcrap.

Everything listed against him here is pure-D bullcrap wrt TPP... Dominionism, Canadian ... All of it.

Except the Tea Party charge.
YES, Cruz has moved far to the left. FAR. To be in line with Tumpy. He ran off and joined the circus.
I very likely will not vote for him anymore.
Not likely my friend, as you aren't a Texan.

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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #44 on: May 10, 2020, 03:34:18 am »
Not likely my friend, as you aren't a Texan.

The possibility exists he may run again in '24.  Who knows?
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #45 on: May 10, 2020, 04:04:09 am »
Not likely my friend, as you aren't a Texan.

Right. But were he to run for president again, I would have very serious reservations. Even as VP to Pence - That was a dream-team I'd have done anything to push into power not very long ago.

Now Cruz has sullied himself so badly that he might even be a detriment to a ticket. And Pence not far behind.

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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #46 on: May 10, 2020, 04:12:58 am »
Right. But were he to run for president again, I would have very serious reservations. Even as VP to Pence - That was a dream-team I'd have done anything to push into power not very long ago.

Now Cruz has sullied himself so badly that he might even be a detriment to a ticket. And Pence not far behind.

I would guess that would depend on your own view of "guilt by association."  But, I do get what you're saying and I would not say that's invalid at all.  Guilt by association is like Per unam mendacium, mendacium in omnibus ("A lie in one, is a lie in all.")  It's considered a fallacy, but I don't agree with that much either.

(Have you ever met somebody this wishy-washy?)
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #47 on: May 10, 2020, 04:22:33 am »
I would guess that would depend on your own view of "guilt by association."  But, I do get what you're saying and I would not say that's invalid at all.  Guilt by association is like Per unam mendacium, mendacium in omnibus ("A lie in one, is a lie in all.")  It's considered a fallacy, but I don't agree with that much either.

(Have you ever met somebody this wishy-washy?)

With Pence it may be guilt by association... He's right in the middle of this covid crap.
But with Cruz, it's on the record. He was high 90's rated four years ago... Now, last I looked, he was low 80's... And yeah that's RINO territory. He's voting and speaking himself right out of Conservatism. Too bad too. He was the first Republican I expected to vote for since 07. Probably not anymore.

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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2020, 04:58:06 am »
With Pence it may be guilt by association... He's right in the middle of this covid crap.
But with Cruz, it's on the record. He was high 90's rated four years ago... Now, last I looked, he was low 80's... And yeah that's RINO territory. He's voting and speaking himself right out of Conservatism. Too bad too. He was the first Republican I expected to vote for since 07. Probably not anymore.

That's hard to argue with.  When it comes to these ratings, they're generally pretty good, but are not always amenable to the local politics for a Senator.  The rating assumes a total professed agreement with the principles of the rater, and anything less than 90% agreement is lousy. 

Not a good trend there, I'll grant you that.  He had a tough election last go round, tougher than it should have been.
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Re: Tea Party now lists Senator Cruz as a RINO
« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2020, 05:45:16 am »
That's hard to argue with.  When it comes to these ratings, they're generally pretty good, but are not always amenable to the local politics for a Senator.  The rating assumes a total professed agreement with the principles of the rater, and anything less than 90% agreement is lousy. 

Not a good trend there, I'll grant you that.  He had a tough election last go round, tougher than it should have been.

That's all right... But no mercy for it. Just like no mercy for Tumpy when he's in error. If you ain't callin em on the carpet, you're accepting it outright, and part of the problem.

I don't mind holding feet to the fire.