Sweden resisted a lockdown, and its capital Stockholm is expected to reach ‘herd immunity’ in weeks

[Hoodat]

Sweden resisted a lockdown, and its capital Stockholm is expected to reach ‘herd immunity’ in weeks

Holly Ellyatt   |   Wed, Apr 22 20206:56 AM EDTUpdated Thu, Apr 23 20203:40 AM EDT

Its neighbors closed borders, schools, bars and businesses as the coronavirus pandemic swept through Europe, but Sweden went against the grain by keeping public life as unrestricted as possible.

The strategy — aimed at allowing some exposure to the virus in order to build immunity among the general population while protecting high-risk groups like the elderly — has been controversial. Some health experts liken it to playing Russian roulette with public health.

But now, the country’s chief epidemiologist said the strategy appears to be working and that “herd immunity” could be reached in the capital Stockholm in a matter of weeks.

“In major parts of Sweden, around Stockholm, we have reached a plateau (in new cases) and we’re already seeing the effect of herd immunity and in a few weeks’ time we’ll see even more of the effects of that. And in the rest of the country, the situation is stable,” Dr. Anders Tegnell, chief epidemiologist at Sweden’s Public Health Agency, told CNBC on Tuesday.   .  .  .

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/22/no-lockdown-in-sweden-but-stockholm-could-see-herd-immunity-in-weeks.html


Article goes on to say that herd immunity is reached when 60% of population is immune.  Stockholm is currently at 20%.

[kevindavis007]

We should have gone down that route.

[libertybele]

We should have gone down that route.

Perhaps ... but it would have wiped out our elderly population and those with diabetes (over 10% of the U.S. population), high blood pressure (appx. 68 million), and those with heart disease (appx. 48.5% of the population).  The majority of deaths from COVID-19 in NY are people who had either, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, obesity or were elderly.

That certainly would cure what ails Social Security and Medicare and would drastically reduce our population. Problems solved!

Of course there's always the ILLEGALs that will be more than happy to help add to the population that just died off.

[Hoodat]

Perhaps ... but it would have wiped out our elderly population and those with diabetes (over 10% of the U.S. population), high blood pressure (appx. 68 million), and those with heart disease (appx. 48.5% of the population).  The majority of deaths from COVID-19 in NY are people who had either, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease, obesity or were elderly.

That certainly would cure what ails Social Security and Medicare and would drastically reduce our population. Problems solved!

At some point, we will reach herd immunity anyway.  We are merely delaying the inevitable.

[kevindavis007]

At some point, we will reach herd immunity anyway.  We are merely delaying the inevitable.

I agree. We could let those who are most vunerablle stay in isolation.

[libertybele]

At some point, we will reach herd immunity anyway.  We are merely delaying the inevitable.

I absolutely agree.  The only saving grace for those who have underlying conditions or are elderly may be a vaccine....maybe. The concern is that they've discovered that this has 30 strains and there are also people who are dying with no underlying conditions, those younger and I read that an infant died.

[libertybele]

I agree. We could let those who are most vunerablle stay in isolation.

You could let them?  That so generous of you.  How about we let the most vulnerable make that decision rather than mandate that they isolate?  I for one opt to live life as much as I can without being isolated till they find a vaccine which won't likely be for the next 18-24 months. That vaccine is probably going to be very questionable.  If I become one of the fatalities, so be it!

[240B]

People die all the time and have always died all the time, especially the sick and the elderly.
Can't help but wonder how many coronavirus deaths are from other causes and are being labeled coronavirus out of laziness or political reasons. Also, some of these deaths could be ancillary to the virus, in that medical staff were so tied up with the virus that they were unable to provide normal reasonable care for other common conditions which may cause death.

I just wonder if the coronavirus numbers are real? I doubt we know what is really going on.

[libertybele]

People die all the time and have always died all the time, especially the sick and the elderly.
Can't help but wonder how many coronavirus deaths are from other causes and are being labeled coronavirus out of laziness or political reasons. Also, some of these deaths could be ancillary to the virus, in that medical staff were so tied up with the virus that they were unable to provide normal reasonable care for other common conditions which may cause death.

I just wonder if the coronavirus numbers are real? I doubt we know what is really going on.

    I sure do have a couple of theories and assumptions though.