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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2400 on: January 12, 2021, 12:17:59 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 12:01:46 am
  I assumed a fact to be true .  .  .

That's just it.  It was never a fact.  It was something you made up in your head.  Something made up in a very short time since you were arguing the exact opposite of that 'fact' only hours before.
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2401 on: January 12, 2021, 12:18:40 am »
It seems if a determined group is going to demand a lie is the truth and will not relent, they will prevail.  Therefore Adolf was right about big lieing, and the socialist are right defeating people with principals, as those without any are sure to win, if they are determined and allowed.  It is like a battle of the godless, who will win?  does it matter?
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2402 on: January 12, 2021, 01:04:45 am »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 12, 2021, 12:16:53 am
Kind of weasely response for someone a few pages ago, who out in out claimed he incited the riot.  Big difference, and I think would warrant a retraction.

I remember back in '16 when we had thoughtful discussions. But something snapped in you.   I have never really liked Trump, but never let my dislike of him blind me in not wanting the best for this country.  And right now, we are looking at the Trifecta of Doom....   Biden, Schumer Pelosi.  Those in the GOP who couldn't find in their heart to hold their nose have to bear some responsibility.  (IMO)
Yes,  by baiting the crowd with weeks of accusations bereft of actionable evidence, by teasing the crowd that Mike Pence had the magical power to order a re-do of the election, by encouraging the crowd to assemble and march to the Capitol when Congress would be in joint session,  and by amping up the rhetoric to fighting words even as he knew that numerous bad actors were plotting to take action, Trump , IMO,  incited the riot. 

Damn right he did, or should have known that he was torching a bonfire.   

I respect that your opinion may differ.   
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2403 on: January 12, 2021, 01:12:04 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 01:04:45 am
Yes,  by baiting the crowd with weeks of accusations bereft of actionable evidence, by teasing the crowd that Mike Pence had the magical power to order a re-do of the election, by encouraging the crowd to assemble and march to the Capitol when Congress would be in joint session,  and by amping up the rhetoric to fighting words even as he knew that numerous bad actors were plotting to take action, Trump , IMO,  incited the riot. 



So in other words, Trump incited by exercising his free speech rights. Thats "sedition".

Lame. Really lame. And as dishonest as hell.
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2404 on: January 12, 2021, 01:12:41 am »
Quote from: catfish1957 on January 12, 2021, 12:16:53 am


I remember back in '16 when we had thoughtful discussions.
But something snapped in you. 

Something's snapped, something's changed, in all of us.   It's not just Trump,  it's the pandemic, the riots, the collapse of civility and grace, the sense that things are spinning out of control. 

I'll promise to change if you will.  Deal? 
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2405 on: January 12, 2021, 01:16:42 am »
Quote from: skeeter on January 12, 2021, 01:12:04 am
So in other words, Trump incited by exercising his free speech rights. Thats "sedition".

Lame. Really lame. And as dishonest as hell.

Well, sedition did occur.  Why shouldn't the President take responsibility for what he's sown?   
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2406 on: January 12, 2021, 01:20:58 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 01:16:42 am
Well, sedition did occur.  Why shouldn't the President take responsibility for what he's sown?

Looking through that speech again and still can't find those seditious words.  Can you help me out on that, @Jazzhead ?
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2407 on: January 12, 2021, 01:23:54 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 01:16:42 am
Well, sedition did occur.  Why shouldn't the President take responsibility for what he's sown?

I find it unbelievable leftists and others are calling what Trump said sedition after the sh*t they've pulled these past four years.

It's so ludicrous & hypocritical one hardly knows how to respond to it. Suffice it to say you have not proven your case.

And its beyond dishonest to demand the president step down NOW with 9 days left in his term and to pretend thats justice. There's something else on your mind but it ain't justice.

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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2408 on: January 12, 2021, 01:23:55 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on January 12, 2021, 01:20:58 am
Looking through that speech again and still can't find those seditious words.  Can you help me out on that, @Jazzhead ?

The speech was one element.  What caused this crowd to behave unlike the typical Trump rally?   What caused the orgy of violence?   Help me out here,  Brainiac. 
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2409 on: January 12, 2021, 01:28:31 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 01:23:55 am
The speech was one element.  What caused this crowd to behave unlike the typical Trump rally?   What caused the orgy of violence?   Help me out here,  Brainiac.

You have long ago already answered your own question by laying the blame on Trump's speech.  So explain.  Show me the words in that speech that were seditious.
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2410 on: January 12, 2021, 01:28:41 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 01:23:55 am
The speech was one element.  What caused this crowd to behave unlike the typical Trump rally?   What caused the orgy of violence?   Help me out here,  Brainiac.
Orgy of violence. Very colorful.
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2411 on: January 12, 2021, 01:33:28 am »
Quote from: skeeter on January 12, 2021, 01:28:41 am
Orgy of violence. Very colorful.

Did you see the footage of the cop, squeezed up against the fence,  screaming for his life?   

Do you deny the reality of what occurred here? 
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2412 on: January 12, 2021, 01:44:32 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 01:33:28 am
Did you see the footage of the cop, squeezed up against the fence,  screaming for his life?   

Do you deny the reality of what occurred here?
Do I deny there was some violence and property destruction? No, I don’t. I do object to you and your friends dishonestly using the incident for your political purposes.

If violence and property destruction really bothered you that much you would spent the past year screaming bloody murder at the rats instead of incessantly bitching about trump.
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2413 on: January 12, 2021, 02:10:37 am »
Quote from: skeeter on January 12, 2021, 01:28:41 am
Orgy of violence. Very colorful.
Some might call it hyperbole.
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2414 on: January 12, 2021, 02:12:07 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 11, 2021, 01:30:49 pm
Only the Democrats would see Making America Great Again as Domestic Terrorism.

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Well,to THEM individual freedoms for the peasants IS domestic terrorism.
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2415 on: January 12, 2021, 02:13:46 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 11, 2021, 01:31:38 pm
Kristalnacht was already here,  courtesy of Trump's ginned up mob.

@Jazzhead

You have turned into a regular drama queen.

What already happened isn't even a downpayment on Kristalnaht,but I suspect it is coming,and when/if it does come,there will  be no confusion in your mind about what happened.
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2416 on: January 12, 2021, 02:19:11 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 01:33:28 am
Did you see the footage of the cop, squeezed up against the fence,  screaming for his life?   

Do you deny the reality of what occurred here?

Did you identify the words of Trump's speech that caused that cop to get squeezed?  Do you deny the reality that you are still blaming Trump's speech, yet are unable to cite a single thing seditious about it?
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2417 on: January 12, 2021, 02:24:32 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 01:33:28 am
Did you see the footage of the cop, squeezed up against the fence,  screaming for his life?   

Do you deny the reality of what occurred here?
do you deny the reality that the first breach at the Capitol happened almost an hour before trump concluded his speech?
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2418 on: January 12, 2021, 02:45:35 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 01:16:42 am
Well, sedition did occur.

Sounds like a fact being stated, based on...

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Why shouldn't the President take responsibility for what he's sown?

...your opinion about public reaction to Trump's utterances.

This is what I mean when I say you love to state opinions disguised as facts.  Maybe you don't see it, which is why you seem to be able to overcome this bad practice of argumentation.  You do it all the time, and it leads to predictable disruptions of threads.  Maybe it just sounds clever and "gotcha" in your head.

Fail.

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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2419 on: January 12, 2021, 02:55:23 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 11, 2021, 03:43:13 pm
The Capitol of the United States was physically breached with Congress in session.  I could care less that less physical damage was done to the Capitol building than to a storefront looted and burned in a BLM riot.   The latter is criminal behavior,  the former violent sedition urged on by the President.  It is completely unacceptable.

Trump's blunder is existential.   He should never be permitted to hold federal office again.  The responsibility of Trump supporters now should be to reject the man and work to save their movement's agenda.  If the two cannot be effectively separated,  then MAGA is effectively dead.
Show me the quote where he urged it on beyond a protest (and a "mostly peaceful" one at that).
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2420 on: January 12, 2021, 02:58:54 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 12, 2021, 01:12:41 am
Something's snapped, something's changed, in all of us.   It's not just Trump,  it's the pandemic, the riots, the collapse of civility and grace, the sense that things are spinning out of control. 

I'll promise to change if you will.  Deal?
NO DEAL!

Why in the Hell should a Constitutional Conservative change? That would only make me wrong.
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2421 on: January 12, 2021, 03:01:47 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on January 12, 2021, 02:58:54 am
NO DEAL!

Why in the Hell should a Constitutional Conservative change? That would only make me wrong.

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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2422 on: January 12, 2021, 03:16:35 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 11, 2021, 01:31:38 pm
Kristalnacht was already here,  courtesy of Trump's ginned up mob.

No, fool.   That wasn’t Kristalnacht.   That was the Reichstag fire.  And you lap it up.
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2423 on: January 12, 2021, 03:22:53 am »
....hmmm....still waiting for a response @Jazzhead   No response indicates to me you have no rebuttal...meaning Hillary's excited crowd was no different than Trump's. 

As for something changing in us...speaking for myself ....nothing has changed .... I've stated many times...either you choose to stand with those on the side trying to  move this country forward in a positive direction or you stand with those trying to destroy our Republic.  You can color the situation anyway you want, but you can't deny truth.
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Re: Election 2020: Twitter and Social Media
« Reply #2424 on: January 12, 2021, 03:23:49 am »
Trump must be held responsible !  Coming from the morally depraved,degenerate, non-stop lieing left that is proud of the irresponsible perverse, lieing, thieving, murdering, racist, baby butchering  left, who just happen to point a moral finger at those far more moral.  How dearly they love their wicked hypocrisies.
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Oh yeah; Trump has a moral duty too.  Coming from the political left that abhor responsibilities or morality, except the perversities of the social-injustice warriors agenda that are mostly unadulterated wickednesses..
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