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Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were


by Tyler Durden
Sat, 04/11/2020 - 12:08

Authored by Robert Wenzel via TargetLiberty.com,

The dotted line on the chart below indicates the current trend of beds needed for COVID-19 in New York.

At present, only 18,279 are in use.

The professional forecasters all projected that beds would be a multiple of the beds actually needed.

Notice not one model came in under the actual number.

These are all professional fearmongers who alarmed the country about a virus that appears to be in line with a severe flu season.
 

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Can they really be that incompetent?

Some may be but I called the evil Tony Fauci out a month ago on his phony projections: Why is Dr. Anthony Fauci, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, Lying to Congress and the American People?

He knows better.

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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2020, 02:47:53 pm »
I was reading a WaPo story, I think last weekend, that talked about how some of the models were vastly underestimating how many people would cooperate with social distancing. The one DC, Maryland and Virginia are using assumed a paltry 31% compliance rate—when empirical evidence suggests much closer to 80%.
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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2020, 12:16:41 pm »
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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2020, 02:56:08 pm »
I was reading a WaPo story, I think last weekend, that talked about how some of the models were vastly underestimating how many people would cooperate with social distancing. The one DC, Maryland and Virginia are using assumed a paltry 31% compliance rate—when empirical evidence suggests much closer to 80%.

Computer models and accounting spreadsheets are as good as the inputs - GIGO. The more inputs to a model that are worst-case guesses, the wilder the results. And as worst-case guess inputs are replaced with realistic approximations, the recalculated results become less wild. Of course, a CT Devotee will see every such change as proof of lying.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2020, 02:59:59 pm »
I was reading a WaPo story, I think last weekend, that talked about how some of the models were vastly underestimating how many people would cooperate with social distancing. The one DC, Maryland and Virginia are using assumed a paltry 31% compliance rate—when empirical evidence suggests much closer to 80%.

That is what has made the difference.

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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2020, 03:01:12 pm »
Computer models and accounting spreadsheets are as good as the inputs - GIGO. The more inputs to a model that are worst-case guesses, the wilder the results. And as worst-case guess inputs are replaced with realistic approximations, the recalculated results become less wild. Of course, a CT Devotee will see every such change as proof of lying.

It’s disturbing to see how much of that is going around.....
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2020, 03:19:37 pm »
It’s disturbing to see how much of that is going around.....

IMO, both: stupidly careless use of computer models (seriously, the modelers should inform their hearers about the wild-ass guesses, or simply STHU); CT-spinning.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2020, 08:57:43 pm »
Computer models and accounting spreadsheets are as good as the inputs - GIGO. The more inputs to a model that are worst-case guesses, the wilder the results. And as worst-case guess inputs are replaced with realistic approximations, the recalculated results become less wild. Of course, a CT Devotee will see every such change as proof of lying.

"CT Devotee?"
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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2020, 12:27:20 am »
Ridiculously wrong is an understatement.

2M predicted dead.
20k actual.

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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2020, 12:34:44 am »
Ridiculously wrong is an understatement.

2M predicted dead.
20k actual.

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But they'll still try to drag this out to November.
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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2020, 12:35:19 am »
Moreover, hospitals are financially rewarded for reporting Covid cases, both admitted, treated with respirators, and when they are deceased, often an autopsy is not done and the cause of death can be questionable, so says a Montana physician with a link on my website:
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The Seattle military hospital set up to take the expected huge influx of cases closed without accepting a single one.    Op Cit

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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2020, 12:42:10 am »
But they'll still try to drag this out to November.

Yeah. That's another thing: It's gonna require hiding in your homes for maybe even a year!!!!
 OMGGGGGGG

REALITY:

I predict, like all seasonal viruses, they will be hard pressed to stretch this till June.

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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2020, 01:00:17 am »
Yeah. That's another thing: It's gonna require hiding in your homes for maybe even a year!!!!
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REALITY:

I predict, like all seasonal viruses, they will be hard pressed to stretch this till June.

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But... but... there could be a second wave! Be afraid! Be very afraid!!!!1 :laugh:
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« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2020, 01:05:01 am »
But... but... there could be a second wave! Be afraid! Be very afraid!!!!1 :laugh:

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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2020, 01:06:40 am »
But... but... there could be a second wave! Be afraid! Be very afraid!!!!1 :laugh:

This may already be the "second wave."  I know several people in Cali that swear they had this bug in December-January, which is why they're not dropping like New Yorkers there.  I think we caught it ourselves when we visited in December...we came home to AZ and spent the better part of a week getting over it.  The symptoms were very unusual, and we thought it was just a new flu.
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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2020, 01:12:10 am »
But they'll still try to drag this out to November.
Yep. And if we aren't careful, restrictions will be lifted too early, and we'll have a second and even worse round.
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« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2020, 02:58:16 pm »
This may already be the "second wave."  I know several people in Cali that swear they had this bug in December-January, which is why they're not dropping like New Yorkers there.  I think we caught it ourselves when we visited in December...we came home to AZ and spent the better part of a week getting over it.  The symptoms were very unusual, and we thought it was just a new flu.

That is a current theory being batted about. My daughter who was in Xining, China at the time had a particularly unpleasant "bug" in December - a couple of weeks, IIRC - and thinks it could have been this coronavirus. The problem with the theory is that AFAIK there wasn't a corresponding spike in deaths. The earlier-than-thought theory could probably, to some degree, be tested by people like you or my daughter being tested to see if you have the antibodies.
If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

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Re: Look At How Ridiculously Wrong All The COVID-19 Models Were
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2020, 04:26:46 pm »
That is a current theory being batted about. My daughter who was in Xining, China at the time had a particularly unpleasant "bug" in December - a couple of weeks, IIRC - and thinks it could have been this coronavirus. The problem with the theory is that AFAIK there wasn't a corresponding spike in deaths. The earlier-than-thought theory could probably, to some degree, be tested by people like you or my daughter being tested to see if you have the antibodies.
If you look up, for example, the 1918 flu or other pandemics, you find there is often a mutation to more lethal forms in the works. The second wave of the 1918 Flu was the worst.
That may have been due to mutations in the pathogen, or simply because people let their guard down thinking the disease had run its course and was over. Not until after the third wave did the pandemic abate, and even now, H1N1 is cause for concern.

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« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2020, 04:30:06 pm »
If you look up, for example, the 1918 flu or other pandemics, you find there is often a mutation to more lethal forms in the works. The second wave of the 1918 Flu was the worst.
As far as that "second wave" is concerned, realize that that second wave had a direct cause: the winding down of World War I bringing soldiers back home to their home countries. The war zone was a breeding ground for disease.

We do not have the same sort of mass migration event happening this time around—which, along with this being not quite as seasonally variable of a virus as some other bugs, leads me to suspect there won't be much of a second wave if there is one.
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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2020, 04:40:48 pm »
As far as that "second wave" is concerned, realize that that second wave had a direct cause: the winding down of World War I bringing soldiers back home to their home countries. The war zone was a breeding ground for disease.

We do not have the same sort of mass migration event happening this time around—which, along with this being not quite as seasonally variable of a virus as some other bugs, leads me to suspect there won't be much of a second wave if there is one.
Well, I'd wager a lot of the bug was passed around on troop ships and trains coming home, but it is believed that that, too, had its origins in China.
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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2020, 03:41:49 pm »
There is a female black PhD at the NIH who is claiming that the Covid 19 panic targets blacks.
It's black racism perpetrated by white men.

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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2020, 04:06:56 pm »
But... but... there could be a second wave! Be afraid! Be very afraid!!!!1 :laugh:

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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2020, 04:40:07 pm »
There is a female black PhD at the NIH who is claiming that the Covid 19 panic targets blacks.
It's black racism perpetrated by white men.

"I see racism in the air, in the ground, in the speed of sound." - Julieanne Malveaux, thirty years ago and professor at UC Berkeley, brainwashing "the best and brightest"

Julianne Malveaux is a despicable person.  This is what she said about Clarence Thomas:


“You know, I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease.”
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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2020, 04:48:03 pm »
Julianne Malveaux is a despicable person.  This is what she said about Clarence Thomas:


“You know, I hope his wife feeds him lots of eggs and butter and he dies early like many black men do, of heart disease.”

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« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2020, 05:16:06 pm »
There is a female black PhD at the NIH who is claiming that the Covid 19 panic targets blacks.
It's black racism perpetrated by white men.

"I see racism in the air, in the ground, in the speed of sound." - Julieanne Malveaux, thirty years ago and professor at UC Berkeley, brainwashing "the best and brightest"

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That's funny right there, considering it was Made in China.
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