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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3875 on: December 13, 2020, 08:34:17 pm »
Quote from: Victoria33 on December 13, 2020, 06:01:43 pm
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Gates buys the vaccine wherever it is, and goes to those countries himself along with Melinda.  He has built buildings in countries and goes there with the vaccine.  I heard him say he has buildings in poor countries to distribute medicine.  I will look it up but I have heard him myself speak of it and it is ongoing.

@Victoria33, if you go back to my post and actually read it you will realize you "explained" something about which I did not ask. So let me state my question again:

Bill and Melinda are trying to guilt-trip the US government into distributing outside of the US the hundreds of millions of vaccine doses for which US taxpayers paid. How is that arm-twisting not an attempt to "use American taxpayers money for his work in poor countries"?
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"? Is reality a Big Pharma Shill?

Millions now living should have died. Anti-Covid-Vaxxer ghouls hardest hit.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3876 on: December 13, 2020, 08:45:50 pm »
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@Victoria33, if you go back to my post and actually read it you will realize you "explained" something about which I did not ask. So let me state my question again:

Bill and Melinda are trying to guilt-trip the US government into distributing outside of the US the hundreds of millions of vaccine doses for which US taxpayers paid. How is that arm-twisting not an attempt to "use American taxpayers money for his work in poor countries"?

Then add the fact that if you believe the Hopkins stats on COVID-19 cases, 22% of all the cases in entire world have occured in the U.S., even though we make up a little over 4% of the population.  Seems any decent epidemiological strategy would include attacking the disease vector where it is the most prevalant. 

But of course, that doesn't matter in the Gates bleeding heart liberal world.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3877 on: December 13, 2020, 11:31:31 pm »
12-11-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   31.227 ↑    1.362 ↓
United States   31.139 ↑    1.723 ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, PA, OH, & FL.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +517.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 3,615,769.

Huge jump in global recoveries (+2 million since previous day)
Global Recoveries-to-Deaths ratio climbs above 31 and is back ahead of US.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3878 on: December 13, 2020, 11:31:45 pm »
12-12-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   31.266 ↑    1.361 ↓
United States   31.401 ↑    1.717 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, PA, FL, & NY.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +380.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 3,656,735.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3879 on: December 13, 2020, 11:34:53 pm »
12-13-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   31.334 ↑    1.360 ↓
United States   31.612 ↑    1.716 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, OH, FL, & NY.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +239.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 3,662,809.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3880 on: December 13, 2020, 11:37:40 pm »
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Then add the fact that if you believe the Hopkins stats on COVID-19 cases, 22% of all the cases in entire world have occured in the U.S., even though we make up a little over 4% of the population.  Seems any decent epidemiological strategy would include attacking the disease vector where it is the most prevalant. 

But of course, that doesn't matter in the Gates bleeding heart liberal world.

It's like pollution:  "The US is 4% of the world's population, but cause 115% of the world's pollution.  Americans are too well off!  This must cease immediately!!"
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3881 on: December 13, 2020, 11:43:37 pm »
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I put more info on my post 3874 regarding Gates and virus.  Gives the amount they have spent and what they did with it.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3882 on: December 14, 2020, 04:40:44 am »
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@BillGates on Covid: "Even through 2022” we should be prepared for life to not return to “normal” 

Says “sadly" it’s "appropriate” for bars and restaurants to close over the next "four to six months"

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https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1338196775564435459

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Remember the days when we expected our medical experts to have more than big wallets?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3883 on: December 14, 2020, 04:48:38 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on December 13, 2020, 11:34:53 pm
12-13-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)   31.334 ↑    1.360 ↓
United States   31.612 ↑    1.716 ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Largest case rises occurred in CA, TX, OH, FL, & NY.

Past 7 day moving average of US deaths compared to 7-day average of previous period:  +239.

14-day Recovery Deficit - 3,662,809.

Where'd the seasonal flu go?



https://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/index.htm#ILIActivityMap
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3884 on: December 14, 2020, 05:02:42 am »
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People working in the White House should receive the vaccine somewhat later in the program, unless specifically necessary. I have asked that this adjustment be made. I am not scheduled to take the vaccine, but look forward to doing so at the appropriate time. Thank you!


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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3885 on: December 14, 2020, 10:09:37 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on December 14, 2020, 05:02:42 am
Donald J. Trump
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People working in the White House should receive the vaccine somewhat later in the program, unless specifically necessary. I have asked that this adjustment be made. I am not scheduled to take the vaccine, but look forward to doing so at the appropriate time. Thank you!


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However, if I, Christie, Carson, or Giuliani should actually catch Covid-19, it will then become specifically necessary for us to receive the use of Regeneron antibody cocktails and other therapeutics that may not yet be accessible to the hoi polloi.

[I wonder if POTUS knew Chris Christie's ungrateful ass was gonna disparage him like he has, would he have still helped him out.  :silly:]
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3886 on: December 14, 2020, 10:50:36 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on December 14, 2020, 04:40:44 am

Remember the days when we expected our medical experts to have more than big wallets?

Perhaps, it's to drag this out until after the mid-terms elections?

My cynicism burns like acid reflux.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3887 on: December 14, 2020, 04:02:37 pm »
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However, if I, Christie, Carson, or Giuliani should actually catch Covid-19, it will then become specifically necessary for us to receive the use of Regeneron antibody cocktails and other therapeutics that may not yet be accessible to the hoi polloi.
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I haven't contacted Good Sam or my doctor about the availability of antibody treatment - no reason to do so. But I do know that Eli Lilly's antibody treatment was given EUA on November 9th, and they have a contract with the US government to supply 300K doses. Regeneron's antibody treatment (not the same as Eli Lilly's) was given EUA on November 21st, and they also have a contract for 300K doses. AstraZeneca also has an antibody treatment that started Phase III testing October 9th. That treatment should also be available for Compassionate Use and may receive EUA very soon.

Howzabout leaving the Class Envy snarks to the Libs and Progs.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3888 on: December 15, 2020, 12:38:40 pm »
Stats about the spread risk in the home, widely recognized as the most dangerous spot for spread:

Odds of being infected by a spouse or significant other: 3 in 8
Odds of being infected by any other member of a household: 1 in 6
Odds of being infected by an asymptomatic carrier in your household: 1 in 150

Asymptomatic spread looks like it could be a huge myth.

Source: University of Florida study published in JAMA. Summary:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9051691/Risk-catching-coronavirus-family-member-live-just-16-6.html
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3889 on: December 15, 2020, 12:48:51 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on December 15, 2020, 12:38:40 pm

Asymptomatic spread looks like it could be a huge myth lie.


There, fixed it.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3890 on: December 15, 2020, 01:30:20 pm »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on December 15, 2020, 12:38:40 pm

Odds of being infected by an asymptomatic carrier in your household: 1 in 150

Asymptomatic spread looks like it could be a huge myth.

Source: University of Florida study published in JAMA. Summary:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9051691/Risk-catching-coronavirus-family-member-live-just-16-6.html

And for this we have isolated our elderly and driven them to despair.  It's maddening.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3891 on: December 15, 2020, 02:52:16 pm »
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And for this we have isolated our elderly and driven them to despair.  It's maddening.

And it was all done on purpose IMO
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3892 on: December 15, 2020, 03:02:43 pm »
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And it was all done on purpose IMO

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3893 on: December 15, 2020, 03:05:06 pm »
Saw a byline that Fauxci has announced he expects herd immunity in the US by late spring.....

You just can't make this sh__ up. 
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3894 on: December 16, 2020, 02:22:33 am »
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Saw a byline that Fauxci has announced he expects herd immunity in the US by late spring.....

You just can't make this sh__ up.
I also saw that he still wants masks through the end of next year. Well, which is it?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3895 on: December 16, 2020, 02:33:04 am »
Just so everyone is keeping an accurate count...we're in day 275 of "15 days to flatten the curve"
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3896 on: December 16, 2020, 05:23:59 am »
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And it was all done on purpose IMO
THe more I look at the situation, the more I agree. And their little Fauci, too!
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3897 on: December 16, 2020, 04:11:51 pm »
Our little town is running at roughly 2 deaths per day and 150 people being diagnosed with COVID daily.  It's decimating the senior citizens....
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« Reply #3898 on: December 16, 2020, 10:04:35 pm »
Study: masks do indeed cut off airflow to the lungs... and if they're dirty, they may be worse for potential infection than nothing.

Source: Study by UMass-Lowell and California Baptist University, published in Physics of Fluids. Summary:
https://nypost.com/2020/12/16/wearing-a-used-mask-could-worse-than-no-mask-amid-covid-19-study/

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When wearing a mask, however, air enters the mouth and nose through the entire surface of the mask at lower speeds, which favors the inhalation of ambient aerosols into the nose.
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https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0034580
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #3899 on: December 16, 2020, 10:36:58 pm »
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Study: masks do indeed cut off airflow to the lungs... and if they're dirty, they may be worse for potential infection than nothing.

Source: Study by UMass-Lowell and California Baptist University, published in Physics of Fluids. Summary:
https://nypost.com/2020/12/16/wearing-a-used-mask-could-worse-than-no-mask-amid-covid-19-study/

Money quote:Abstract:
https://aip.scitation.org/doi/10.1063/5.0034580
That assumes you even have a seal, often not the case, and I'd like to have a dollar for every time I have seen someone with their full nose hanging over the mask or it pulled down below their chin.
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