Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2

[libertybele]

IF this information is accurate; the bad news about this virus just keeps getting worse.  This is why perhaps people are testing positive again...there is no end to this.  So ... go out and enjoy life as much as you can for as long as you can.



Coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 different strains, study finds

The novel coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 different genetic variations, according to a new study in China.

The results showed that medical officials have vastly underestimated the overall ability of the virus to mutate, in finding that different strains have affected different parts of the world, leading to potential difficulties in finding an overall cure.

The study, which was carried out by professor Li Lanjuan and colleagues from Zhejiang University in Hangzhou, China, was published in a non-peer reviewed paper released on Sunday.

The researchers analyzed the strains from 11 randomly chosen coronavirus patients from Hangzhou, where there have been 1,264 reported cases, and then tested how efficiently they could infect and kill cells. China's coronavirus numbers, however, have been questioned, as they have not been verified.

More than 30 different mutations of the virus were detected, of which 19 were previously undiscovered.

“Sars-CoV-2 has acquired mutations capable of substantially changing its pathogenicity,” Li wrote in the paper........

https://www.foxnews.com/science/coronavirus-mutated-at-least-30-different-strains-study-finds

[Hoodat]

Not only can we not trust China's numbers, we can't trust Pennsylvania's either.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Good on my President for starting today's press conference with remembrance of the dead and mourning.  He should make that a habit.

[jmyrlefuller]

Coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 different strains, study finds
The study, which was carried out by professor Li Lanjuan and colleagues from Zhejiang University in Hangzhou, China, was published in a non-peer reviewed paper released on Sunday.

The researchers analyzed the strains from 11 randomly chosen coronavirus patients from Hangzhou (...)More than 30 different mutations of the virus were detected, of which 19 were previously undiscovered.

Yeah, this looks more like disinformation than legitimate research.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

I just finished watching today's press conference by President Trump.  It was very very good.  No finger pointing, lots of praise for rat congress and rat Governors like Cuomo working with him.  No grips about the media.  Re-iterated that saving lives is our first priority.  Re-iterated social distancing and small social groups.  Re-iterated they are monitoring everything and strategy is reassessed based on the data.  I missed Dr Fauci but A+

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete I've noticed that some of the most extreme signs are held by masked people in a sea of unmasked protesters.  I makes me wonder if the sign is extreme because the guy holding it is a plant or agitator.  It's possible they just want to conceal their face to protect against doxing, but it makes it hard to believe the message is legitimate.  Thanx for your reply.  I don't know that was the point you were making, but it helped me frame the situation more fully

@Once-Ler

I strongly suspect she was both an agitator,and a leader. Or at least a leader on the "street level". The real leaders never expose themselves to the public eye and risk arrest.  Remember,these people are communists and operate under the cell system of layers of groups that are independent of each other,and only connected by someone in the next step in the leadership chain who gives them their marching orders.

[Smokin Joe]

IF this information is accurate; the bad news about this virus just keeps getting worse.  This is why perhaps people are testing positive again...there is no end to this.  So ... go out and enjoy life as much as you can for as long as you can.



Coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 different strains, study finds

The novel coronavirus has mutated into at least 30 different genetic variations, according to a new study in China.

The results showed that medical officials have vastly underestimated the overall ability of the virus to mutate, in finding that different strains have affected different parts of the world, leading to potential difficulties in finding an overall cure.

The study, which was carried out by professor Li Lanjuan and colleagues from Zhejiang University in Hangzhou, China, was published in a non-peer reviewed paper released on Sunday.

The researchers analyzed the strains from 11 randomly chosen coronavirus patients from Hangzhou, where there have been 1,264 reported cases, and then tested how efficiently they could infect and kill cells. China's coronavirus numbers, however, have been questioned, as they have not been verified.

More than 30 different mutations of the virus were detected, of which 19 were previously undiscovered.

“Sars-CoV-2 has acquired mutations capable of substantially changing its pathogenicity,” Li wrote in the paper........

https://www.foxnews.com/science/coronavirus-mutated-at-least-30-different-strains-study-finds

So is that more deadly or less deadly? A vaccine will be of questionable efficacy against a 30+ strain pathogen.
No point in waiting for that.

In the meantime, the Democrats are trying to crush the economy beyond not just a quick recovery, but any recovery at all.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

So is that more deadly or less deadly? A vaccine will be of questionable efficacy against a 30+ strain pathogen.
No point in waiting for that.

In the meantime, the Democrats are trying to crush the economy beyond not just a quick recovery, but any recovery at all.

by voting unanimously with the GOP Senate?  shame.

[Smokin Joe]

by voting unanimously with the GOP Senate?  shame.

No. By inflating COVID-19 death numbers in places like NY and PA to push for longer shutdowns.

Besides , if the Democrats voted unanimously for something, it's likely bad.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

No. By inflating COVID-19 death numbers in places like NY and PA to push for longer shutdowns.

NY doesn't need to inflate their numbers.  Gov Cuomo, and Mayor duhBlasio are presiding over the #1 infections and deathtoll by wide margins.  Their shutdown will not stop the opening of ND.   PA is number 5 for infections.  They ain't opening anytime soon either. 

Besides , if the Democrats voted unanimously for something, it's likely bad.

No blame to the GOP Majority Leader, unanimous GOP Senators, or President Trump who joined them?  Thats OAN fair.   

[Smokin Joe]

NY doesn't need to inflate their numbers.  Gov Cuomo, and Mayor duhBlasio are presiding over the #1 infections and deathtoll by wide margins.  Their shutdown will not stop the opening of ND.   PA is number 5 for infections.  They ain't opening anytime soon either. 

No blame to the GOP Majority Leader, unanimous GOP Senators, or President Trump who joined them?  Thats OAN fair.   

NY may not need to, but that didn't stop them from dumping 3700 deaths in the lap of the coronavirus a few days ago as "presumptive" coronavirus deaths. That sort of book-cooking may end up wasting research dollars in the future trying to account for anomalies that only exist in accounting, or even divert resources today that might be more useful elsewhere.

[mountaineer]

A coroner in Pennsylvania has challenged the state's health secretary on attributing deaths to the virus when that wasn't the cause:

EXCLUSIVE: Lycoming County Coroner Kiessling challenges Sec. Levine on COVID-19 death reporting
April 21, 2020
By Todd Bartley

Earlier today the Pennsylvania Department of Health announced two deaths attributed to COVID-19 in Lycoming County as first reported by News Talk 104.1.

On Tuesday evening, Lycoming County Coroner Charles Kiessling issued the following statement and video.

“In my capacity as Lycoming County Coroner, there are zero “official deaths” in Lycoming County thus far, contradicting the numbers Secretary Levine released today and raising serious concerns regarding their accuracy, with my office..

Please be advised going forward, for official Lycoming County information regarding Coronavirus numbers, please refer to this page only, and I will take responsibility in interacting with you with daily posts/video (3PM EST) until further notice.”

Coroner Kiessling

WEJS (video at link)
_____________________
A Pa. state representative posted on Facebook:

Rob Kauffman
18 hrs ·

At this point, I will no longer be reporting data from the Department of Health. Overnight according to the PA Department of Health, the death total for COVID-19 in Franklin County went from 0 to 10. Currently, by provision of the County Code, County Coroners are getting all deaths reported to them, whether they are hospital, home or nursing home deaths. The Franklin County Coroner has 0 COVID-19 deaths on record. The PA Department of Health has 10 overnight. I cannot resolve this discrepancy and no one will answer the questions that I ask daily.

[Gefn]

I’m seeing a lot of news stories this morning saying because of coronavirus there are more birds, less pollution. Saw an amazing article how endangered sea turtles are coming back.

Maybe it’s because of Earth Day, but it’s a silver lining in these weird, scary times.

[catfish1957]

I’m seeing a lot of news stories this morning saying because of coronavirus there are more birds, less pollution. Saw an amazing article how endangered sea turtles are coming back.

Maybe it’s because of Earth Day, but it’s a silver lining in these weird, scary times.

Just more proof that nature will get along just fine after our species dies out.

[corbe]

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[jmyrlefuller]

Autopsies find first U.S. coronavirus death occurred in early February, weeks earlier than previously thought
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/autopsies-find-first-us-coronavirus-death-occurred-in-early-february-weeks-earlier-than-previously-thought/ar-BB131mhb

[Hoodat]

Autopsies find first U.S. coronavirus death occurred in early February, weeks earlier than previously thought
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/autopsies-find-first-us-coronavirus-death-occurred-in-early-february-weeks-earlier-than-previously-thought/ar-BB131mhb

Aw geez, now they'll go back and count all the people who died in February and bump up the Covid-19 death count just to make Trump look bad.

[DB]

"A mysterious blood-clotting complication is killing coronavirus patients"

https://www.thehour.com/news/article/A-mysterious-blood-clotting-complication-is-15218500.php

This doesn't sound very good. Just more ways this virus appears to be different than other corona viruses.

[Hoodat]

Rolling Average for Georgia

[Hoodat]

"A mysterious blood-clotting complication is killing coronavirus patients"

https://www.thehour.com/news/article/A-mysterious-blood-clotting-complication-is-15218500.php

This doesn't sound very good. Just more ways this virus appears to be different than other corona viruses.

Blood clots are not uncommon for sedated ICU patients.  Is this clotting anomaly also affecting patients recovering at home?

[Cyber Liberty]

Blood clots are not uncommon for sedated ICU patients.  Is this clotting anomaly also affecting patients recovering at home?

Clotting is presenting as secondary symptoms, like red to purple toes and fingers on people not yet hospitalized.

[corbe]

[Hoodat]

04-23-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGION	Recov:Death	Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)	4.221 ↑	3.064 ↓
United States	1.764 ↓	10.098 ↑
China	16.656 ↑	1.073 -

US 14-day Recovery Deficit - 314,475
Recovery Rate after 14 days - 18.8 %  ↓
Recovery Rate after 21 days - 44.6 %  ↓

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/


A 62% decline for Pennsylvania today, and a 51% decline for Michigan.   You won't see that posted in any headline though.

[Smokin Joe]

Gotta love the Babylon Bee....

[jmyrlefuller]

Nugget from the NY briefing today:
Initial reports from antibody testing are showing 1 in 5 New York City residents have COVID antibodies.