Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2

[sneakypete]

Very true.  The part I highlighted is important to note, because too much post-surgical pain is actually a detriment to recovery.

@Cyber Liberty

Yup! The "trick" is to reduce it to a manageable level,not eliminate it. Eliminate it entirely,and you might do foolish crap like go dancing. Sometimes on table tops.

Don't ask me how I know this.

[Cyber Liberty]

@Cyber Liberty

Yup! The "trick" is to reduce it to a manageable level,not eliminate it. Eliminate it entirely,and you might do foolish crap like go dancing. Sometimes on table tops.

Don't ask me how I know this.

 
I'll  tell you how I know it:  I had two hip replacement in two years, and I had to report my pain levels on a scale from 1-10 of how much I hurt.  I NEVER medicated the pain-level to zero, because if I did that I would never know if I was taking too much.  Keeping a 1 or 2 level pain told me I was not in that situation.

[Smokin Joe]

@Cyber Liberty

Yup! The "trick" is to reduce it to a manageable level,not eliminate it. Eliminate it entirely,and you might do foolish crap like go dancing. Sometimes on table tops.

Don't ask me how I know this.

Jose Cuervo told me.

[Idiot]

Ughhhhhh....

Oil down 29% overnight @$13.09/bbl.  Demand has dwindled significantly.

Rollercoaster begins again in earnest.

I saw WTI at $11 this morning, which means we are getting around $6....INSANITY.  Of course this month's contract is rolling over into the next and no one has room for delivery.  I've been trying to find some cheap frac tanks for sale to store some of our oil, but even those are expensive.  Anyone have some cheap in Texas?

The majors stocks are actually holding up pretty well today.  I was expecting a pretty good drop and was gonna nibble on some, but...….oh well. @catfish1957

[catfish1957]

Bakken Crude (ND Sweet Light) down below $10/bbl.

We are now in Armageddon territory.  The spigot will be squeezing down to a drip in 3..2...1....

[catfish1957]

I saw WTI at $11 this morning, which means we are getting around $6....INSANITY.  Of course this month's contract is rolling over into the next and no one has room for delivery.  I've been trying to find some cheap frac tanks for sale to store some of our oil, but even those are expensive.  Anyone have some cheap in Texas?

The majors stocks are actually holding up pretty well today.  I was expecting a pretty good drop and was gonna nibble on some, but...….oh well. @catfish1957

$10/bbl oil is not a sustainable low price for an industrial world.  There are some folks out there making a future speculative killing right now.  Especially if some small players shake out.

[Smokin Joe]

We are now in Armageddon territory.  The spigot will be squeezing down to a drip in 3..2...1....

Helms: North Dakota's oil and gas industry has shut in at least 260,000 barrels of oil production
https://www.willistonherald.com/news/coronavirus/helms-north-dakotas-oil-and-gas-industry-has-shut-in-at-least-260-000-barrels/article_a8d3e4de-7e9b-11ea-8dbe-1ffaaf1e8312.html

Bakken regulator talks latest pandemic developments: 4,600 oil wells idled, new tank farms on horizon
https://bismarcktribune.com/bakken/bakken-regulator-talks-latest-pandemic-developments-4-600-oil-wells-idled-new-tank-farms-on/article_c9d06c8e-36ae-50fd-b34d-1b0f5b7b8561.html

[libertybele]

What are 'COVID toes'? Dermatologists, podiatrists share strange findings
Maura Hohman
3 days ago


The longer the novel coronavirus circulates, the more unexpected symptoms pop up.

Now, another condition possibly linked to the coronavirus has captured researchers' attention. Dubbed "COVID toes" by the dermatology community, it can look like "purple lesions" on feet or hands, Dr. Esther Freeman, a dermatologist at Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, told TODAY. ...   But because COVID toes may appear before or without other coronavirus symptoms, Freeman believes it should be a criterion for testing.  ...

The condition usually starts with red or purple discoloration, and the skin may become raised or develop ulcerations, according to Freeman. It can be on hands, too.

Fox told TODAY it has appeared as "purple, red bumps" on the tips of digits and pads, or on the tops of toes or sides of feet.

People with COVID toes may feel the skin is hot, burning or itchy.   ... More, including photos, at MSN

There has to be several different strains circulating out there or it's mutating, unfortunately.  I would think that there possibly being different strains and mutation very plausible, it is going to make, making a vaccine very difficult.

[Cyber Liberty]

There has to be several different strains circulating out there or it's mutating, unfortunately.  I would think that there possibly being different strains and mutation very plausible, it is going to make, making a vaccine very difficult.

Pathologists have learned to look for "COVID eyes" and "COVID toes."  They are official symptoms of the infection.  And, it's related to situations like the celebrity fellow who had to have a leg amputated.  Thrombosis is the culprit.

[musiclady]

Pathologists have learned to look for "COVID eyes" and "COVID toes."  They are official symptoms of the infection.  And, it's related to situations like the celebrity fellow who had to have a leg amputated.  Thrombosis is the culprit.

Nick Cordero - leg amputated

Only 41 years old.  Messy stuff.

(He was a guest star on Blue Bloods, which is why I know who he is).

[Cyber Liberty]

Nick Cordero - leg amputated

Only 41 years old.  Messy stuff.

(He was a guest star on Blue Bloods, which is why I know who he is).

Thank Yew!!  I couldn't remember the name, so I went with the generic "celebrity guy."

[musiclady]

More than 1800 inmates test positive at Marion Correctional (Ohio)

Why congregate setting are still dangerous.  Many of those who tested positive are asymptomatic.

The only death so far is a correctional officer.

[musiclady]

Thank Yew!!  I couldn't remember the name, so I went with the generic "celebrity guy."

No problem!      I only knew who he was because we watch a lot of Blue Bloods, and he's been on more than one.

Broadway guy.

[sneakypete]

More than 1800 inmates test positive at Marion Correctional (Ohio)

Why congregate setting are still dangerous.  Many of those who tested positive are asymptomatic.

The only death so far is a correctional officer.

@musiclady

Someone correct me if I am wrong,but isn't it possible to test positive for it,and not be or get sick from it?

[Cyber Liberty]

More than 1800 inmates test positive at Marion Correctional (Ohio)

Why congregate setting are still dangerous.  Many of those who tested positive are asymptomatic.

The only death so far is a correctional officer.

Yet another reason to be annoyed at elected officials turning prisoners loose on society, while curtailing self-defense purchases.   

[musiclady]

@musiclady

Someone correct me if I am wrong,but isn't it possible to test positive for it,and not be or get sick from it?

Yes.  That's true for quite a few, I think.

(I hope I'm one!  )

Some have no symptoms, though, and get them later.  It's a crazy virus.

[Cyber Liberty]

@musiclady

Someone correct me if I am wrong,but isn't it possible to test positive for it,and not be or get sick from it?

@sneakypete

Absolutely correct!  It's also possible to get a false negative, where one can be affirmed "not infected," but still be a carrier.

[Idiot]

Nick Cordero - leg amputated

Only 41 years old.  Messy stuff.

(He was a guest star on Blue Bloods, which is why I know who he is).

I've been binge watching Blue Bloods and am about halfway through.  Who was he? @musiclady

[musiclady]

Yet another reason to be annoyed at elected officials turning prisoners loose on society, while curtailing self-defense purchases.   

Selected non-violent offenders with intense supervision and mandatory quarantine should take care of it.

[Idiot]

Our local cookie factory has 50 confirmed cases with more hitting daily.  They have over 300 workers.  Craaaap…..

[musiclady]

I've been binge watching Blue Bloods and am about halfway through.  Who was he? @musiclady

He was the smart mouthed guy who hijacked the truck, knee capped the driver, called Danny "Defective," and then came back and rode with Danny to find a criminal (kept playing Candy Crush on his phone).

We just watched those!  (Fresh in my memory!  ).

ETA- Season 8 episode 10 - character's name was Victor Lugo.

[Cyber Liberty]

Selected non-violent offenders with intense supervision and mandatory quarantine should take care of it.

I wish that's what they are doing, but I doubt it very much.  Ankle monitors are expensive.

[musiclady]

I wish that's what they are doing, but I doubt it very much.  Ankle monitors are expensive.

That's what they're doing here.  Probably not in other states.

It's very, very, very selective.  Prisoners need to be within 90 days of being released, no murderers, sexual predators, etc. even being considered. 

[Cyber Liberty]

That's what they're doing here.  Probably not in other states.

It's very, very, very selective.  Prisoners need to be within 90 days of being released, no murderers, sexual predators, etc. even being considered.

I can tell you the Rat Sheriffs of LA and Maricopa (Phoenix) Counties are not doing that.  I don't think there are even bonds involved.

[Smokin Joe]

I wish that's what they are doing, but I doubt it very much.  Ankle monitors are expensive.

Will that be the next shortage?