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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #925 on: April 11, 2020, 10:50:03 pm »
Quote from: DB on April 11, 2020, 10:03:35 pm
My niece just went into emergency with a fever and trouble breathing about an hour ago. She has serious lung damage from a bad bout with valley fever perhaps 10 years ago that she barely survived. She has a husband and young son that recently had his first birthday.

We're very concerned.

Praying fervently for her, and your whole family!  @DB
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #926 on: April 11, 2020, 10:54:15 pm »
Thank you everyone.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #927 on: April 11, 2020, 11:13:18 pm »
Quote from: DB on April 11, 2020, 10:03:35 pm
My niece just went into emergency with a fever and trouble breathing about an hour ago. She has serious lung damage from a bad bout with valley fever perhaps 10 years ago that she barely survived. She has a husband and young son that recently had his first birthday.

We're very concerned.

Prayers for your niece, @DB . I hope it ends up being something else.  My friend's daughter had symptoms and just got her  test results back.  She ended up testing positive for influenza, so that is going around as well.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #928 on: April 11, 2020, 11:27:54 pm »
Quote from: DB on April 11, 2020, 10:03:35 pm
My niece just went into emergency with a fever and trouble breathing about an hour ago. She has serious lung damage from a bad bout with valley fever perhaps 10 years ago that she barely survived. She has a husband and young son that recently had his first birthday.

We're very concerned.

WHAT???  Oh no!  Prayers for your niece.  Is she in Cali?

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Re: Bat virus? Bioweapon? What the science says about Covid-19 origins
« Reply #929 on: April 11, 2020, 11:27:56 pm »
We have been through this before.

Here is the link to the article in Nature: https://www.nature.com/articles/nm.3985
Where the researchers are documenting creating a virus out of a SARS virus and a bat borne Coronavirus.

The result sure sounds al lot like SARS-CoV-2, the active agent in COVID-19.

Is this a hybrid? Yep, no doubt.
Is it lab made? I'm (after reading this publication, co-authored by two chinese scientists from the Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences) 99.999% sure.

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Using the SARS-CoV reverse genetics system2, we generated and characterized a chimeric virus expressing the spike of bat coronavirus SHC014 in a mouse-adapted SARS-CoV backbone. The results indicate that group 2b viruses encoding the SHC014 spike in a wild-type backbone can efficiently use multiple orthologs of the SARS receptor human angiotensin converting enzyme II (ACE2), replicate efficiently in primary human airway cells and achieve in vitro titers equivalent to epidemic strains of SARS-CoV. Additionally, in vivo experiments demonstrate replication of the chimeric virus in mouse lung with notable pathogenesis. Evaluation of available SARS-based immune-therapeutic and prophylactic modalities revealed poor efficacy; both monoclonal antibody and vaccine approaches failed to neutralize and protect from infection with CoVs using the novel spike protein. On the basis of these findings, we synthetically re-derived an infectious full-length SHC014 recombinant virus and demonstrate robust viral replication both in vitro and in vivo. Our work suggests a potential risk of SARS-CoV re-emergence from viruses currently circulating in bat populations.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #930 on: April 11, 2020, 11:41:17 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on April 11, 2020, 11:27:54 pm
WHAT???  Oh no!  Prayers for your niece.  Is she in Cali?

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Yes, she's in a small town in California.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #931 on: April 11, 2020, 11:47:46 pm »
Quote from: DB on April 11, 2020, 11:41:17 pm
Yes, she's in a small town in California.

Oh, man, that's rough.  Extra prayers for you, still new in your new town...

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #932 on: April 12, 2020, 01:36:09 am »
Quote from: DB on April 11, 2020, 10:03:35 pm
My niece just went into emergency with a fever and trouble breathing about an hour ago. She has serious lung damage from a bad bout with valley fever perhaps 10 years ago that she barely survived. She has a husband and young son that recently had his first birthday.

We're very concerned.
Oh my!  Prayers for y'all. 
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #933 on: April 12, 2020, 02:09:20 am »
Hi Guys,

The emergency room doctors think it was a pulmonary embolism of some sort but I don't know how that explains the fever. The other symptoms do match that. They sent her home with some medications (I'm assuming a blood thinner). I'm pretty sure she was swabbed for the virus but I don't know if there are any results yet. Hopefully the next 24 hours clears up what's going on.

Thank you for the prayers and kind thoughts.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #934 on: April 12, 2020, 04:46:15 am »
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #935 on: April 12, 2020, 05:44:53 am »
Quote from: DB on April 12, 2020, 02:09:20 am
Hi Guys,

The emergency room doctors think it was a pulmonary embolism of some sort but I don't know how that explains the fever. The other symptoms do match that. They sent her home with some medications (I'm assuming a blood thinner). I'm pretty sure she was swabbed for the virus but I don't know if there are any results yet. Hopefully the next 24 hours clears up what's going on.

Thank you for the prayers and kind thoughts.
@DB I'm glad your niece is better.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #936 on: April 12, 2020, 07:03:03 am »
According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

We lost ‭12,108‬ Americans to the virus last week.

9/11                           - 2,996
2017 Hurricane Maria   - 2,982
2001-now Afghanistan - 2,216
2003 Iraq                   - 4,497 
         TOTAL               - ‭12,691‬

It's almost like all these tragedies happened last week
 
"This is going to be the hardest and the saddest week of most Americans’ lives, quite frankly,” - US Surgeon General Jerome Adams 4/5/20
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/surgeon-general-warns-this-week-will-be-our-pearl-harbor-moment-as-coronavirus-death-toll-rises

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I have not watched much TV News over this last week.  I trust the daily press conferences on youtube, this forum, and twitter to inform me of the news of the day.  So maybe the MSM is already doing it, but I find using the metric of "last week" we lost 12k Americans much more shocking than 20k total and 2k yesterday.  I'd be surprised if the MSM doesn't begin incorporating it, if they haven't started.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #937 on: April 12, 2020, 10:05:54 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on April 12, 2020, 07:03:03 am
According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

We lost ‭12,108‬ Americans to the virus last week.

9/11                           - 2,996
2017 Hurricane Maria   - 2,982
2001-now Afghanistan - 2,216
2003 Iraq                   - 4,497 
         TOTAL               - ‭12,691‬

It's almost like all these tragedies happened last week
 
"This is going to be the hardest and the saddest week of most Americans’ lives, quite frankly,” - US Surgeon General Jerome Adams 4/5/20
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/surgeon-general-warns-this-week-will-be-our-pearl-harbor-moment-as-coronavirus-death-toll-rises

 8888crybaby

I have not watched much TV News over this last week.  I trust the daily press conferences on youtube, this forum, and twitter to inform me of the news of the day.  So maybe the MSM is already doing it, but I find using the metric of "last week" we lost 12k Americans much more shocking than 20k total and 2k yesterday.  I'd be surprised if the MSM doesn't begin incorporating it, if they haven't started.

Almost 12k people will die this month from lung cancer.  I hope you mourn that just as hard as you are the stats from this virus.

Should the MSM incorporate those stats onto their reports as well?  Or run scare story after scare story about the 143K for the year that will die from this cancer?

What kind of shocking metric should they use for cancer deaths...or suicides...or any other thing that will kill more people than this virus?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #938 on: April 12, 2020, 10:35:59 am »
Quote from: txradioguy on April 12, 2020, 10:05:54 am
Almost 12k people will die this month from lung cancer.  I hope you mourn that just as hard as you are the stats from this virus.
I'll mourn them 1/4 as hard since they're dying a quarter as fast.

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Should the MSM incorporate those stats onto their reports as well?  Or run scare story after scare story about the 143K for the year that will die from this cancer?

You're a stone cold critic.

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What kind of shocking metric should they use for cancer deaths...or suicides...or any other thing that will kill more people than this virus?

Clearly I have offended you by empathizing with the dead.  I'm so sorry this has happened to you.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #939 on: April 12, 2020, 10:39:33 am »
@Fishrrman

Some very good posts including that picture of the 1918 Spanish flu pandemic. If no one thanked you for those, I wished to. It's hard to remember which thread that was in but it was helpful and useful.

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While I am here, I merged 3 of my threads on this topic into this main thread. We can't lose site of other subjects as well.

Pretty good viewership for this forum too; which in the past, was not nearly as active.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #940 on: April 12, 2020, 12:08:35 pm »
Quote from: DB on April 12, 2020, 02:09:20 am
Hi Guys,

The emergency room doctors think it was a pulmonary embolism of some sort but I don't know how that explains the fever. The other symptoms do match that. They sent her home with some medications (I'm assuming a blood thinner). I'm pretty sure she was swabbed for the virus but I don't know if there are any results yet. Hopefully the next 24 hours clears up what's going on.

Thank you for the prayers and kind thoughts.

Keep us posted. I hope she starts to feel better soon. @DB
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #941 on: April 12, 2020, 10:59:01 pm »
Mrs. Once-Ler made ham, potatotos, mac n cheese, cornbread, broccoli, and salad. 
My oldest daughter Once-Letta made cup cakes.
We are now playing an on-line game using Zoom with our brood, and their spouses who moved out on their own. 
A blessed day in our home. 
Hope you are all safe, with full tummies.   eeeeeeeee
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #942 on: April 12, 2020, 11:18:12 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on April 12, 2020, 10:59:01 pm
Mrs. Once-Ler made ham, potatotos, mac n cheese, cornbread, broccoli, and salad. 
My oldest daughter Once-Letta made cup cakes.
We are now playing an on-line game using Zoom with our brood, and their spouses who moved out on their own. 
A blessed day in our home. 
Hope you are all safe, with full tummies.   eeeeeeeee

I am glad to hear you have an excellent and blessed day, @Once-Ler!   :beer:
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #943 on: April 12, 2020, 11:32:28 pm »
Quote from: Once-Ler on April 12, 2020, 10:59:01 pm
Mrs. Once-Ler made ham, potatotos, mac n cheese, cornbread, broccoli, and salad. 
My oldest daughter Once-Letta made cup cakes.
We are now playing an on-line game using Zoom with our brood, and their spouses who moved out on their own. 
A blessed day in our home. 
Hope you are all safe, with full tummies.   eeeeeeeee

You too @Once-Ler
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #944 on: April 12, 2020, 11:46:42 pm »
Quote from: DB on April 12, 2020, 02:09:20 am
Hi Guys,

The emergency room doctors think it was a pulmonary embolism of some sort but I don't know how that explains the fever. The other symptoms do match that. They sent her home with some medications (I'm assuming a blood thinner). I'm pretty sure she was swabbed for the virus but I don't know if there are any results yet. Hopefully the next 24 hours clears up what's going on.

Thank you for the prayers and kind thoughts.

@DB

Keeping her and your family in my thoughts.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #945 on: April 12, 2020, 11:53:38 pm »
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@DB

Keeping her and your family in my thoughts.

Thank you.

They've ruled out pulmonary embolism through blood tests and CT scan. Her fever went away sometime yesterday. She's home and as far as I know is not getting worse. Still pending other test results.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #946 on: April 13, 2020, 02:36:39 am »
04-12-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  3.528 ↑  3.864 ↓
United States  1.476 ↑ 17.169 ↓
China 23.233 ↑  1.058 ↑

US 14-day Recovery Deficit - 58,751
Recovery Rate after 14 days - 28.8 %  ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #947 on: April 13, 2020, 02:42:21 am »
Quote from: Hoodat on April 13, 2020, 02:36:39 am
04-12-2020 | 0:00 GMT

REGIONRecov:Death     Cases:Recov
Global (excluding China & US)  3.528 ↑  3.864 ↓
United States  1.476 ↑ 17.169 ↓
China 23.233 ↑  1.058 ↑

US 14-day Recovery Deficit - 58,751
Recovery Rate after 14 days - 28.8 %  ↑

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

We got all green arrows today?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #948 on: April 13, 2020, 09:54:30 am »
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We got all green arrows today?
Caveat: it is the weekend, when reporting usually goes down. It usually jumps the following Tuesday.

I'm just praying we don't get a big jump this time and the decline begins for real. It HAS to start going down, and fast, if we are going to get people back to living again.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion 2
« Reply #949 on: April 13, 2020, 09:57:07 am »

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You should reassess your priorities in the light of 20k American deaths, with thousands more added daily, Mr President.
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