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Aren't there corpsmen in the military that can fill in for ICU Nurses?

I don’t know. Maybe? I don’t think it will come to that though.

Besides just a few mistakes, the president is handling this as well as to be expected with something that’s new and unknown. We’ll look back and be able to assess some things and see how maybe they could’ve been done differently but the media claiming that this is his Katrina is just a reminder that it is an election year

 I mean he’s handling it good enough for his Democrat opponent to plagiarize his response
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I don’t know. Maybe? I don’t think it will come to that though.

Besides just a few mistakes, the president is handling this as well as to be expected with something that’s new and unknown. We’ll look back and be able to assess some things and see how maybe they could’ve been done differently but the media claiming that this is his Katrina is just a reminder that it is an election year

 I mean he’s handling it good enough for his Democrat opponent to plagiarize his response

He's handling it considerably better than his arrogant predecessor, which is something the Democrat Press can never abide.  Every flaw will be trumped up (to borrow a pun) to make Trump look like a combination of incompetent and evil.

IOW, SOP at the Nets.  The beat goes on.   333cleo 333cleo 333cleo 333cleo
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He's handling it considerably better than his arrogant predecessor, which is something the Democrat Press can never abide.  Every flaw will be trumped up (to borrow a pun) to make Trump look like a combination of incompetent and evil.

IOW, SOP at the Nets.  The beat goes on.   333cleo 333cleo 333cleo 333cleo

Worse, hIs predecessor used every opportunity to expand the scope of government. Which partially explains the testing fiasco at the CDC. Trump's response to COVID19 has reinforced the idea that answers by & large should be sought in the private sector. This is an immense change of direction for the federal government.

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His comments were indeed interesting, the first dozen times or so.  It only got old after that.  Frequent posters on this thread, and other recent ones would probably agree.

It is hard to engage someone in debate when they ask for evidence of a claim and then tell you they’ll just dismiss it, anyways
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It is hard to engage someone in debate when they ask for evidence of a claim and then tell you they’ll just dismiss it, anyways

Or simply ignore it when nailed to the wall.  He wasn't the only person to do that.
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He's handling it considerably better than his arrogant predecessor, which is something the Democrat Press can never abide.  Every flaw will be trumped up (to borrow a pun) to make Trump look like a combination of incompetent and evil.

IOW, SOP at the Nets.  The beat goes on.   333cleo 333cleo 333cleo 333cleo

After every crisis, there’s an opportunity to see what worked and what mistakes
were made. The Democrats attempts to use it to gain a political point may come back to haunt them
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Aren't there corpsmen in the military that can fill in for ICU Nurses?

Speaking of corpsmen  .  .  .


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The Marines in combat are joined by Navy corpsmen; in effect their "medics."

Like  all other medical providers, they practice Triage, to allocate/prioritize their resources for the most effective results.

They are at the point of the spear where people get hurt and killed.

Unlike REMF who think Triage is "despicable."
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A floor nurse could monitor an ICU pt  but the problem would be Staffing.  You would burn out medical staff pretty quick

 Where I work we’re already short staffed and that was even before the Coronavirus. The staffing for ICU units is normally better than it is for Acute medical floors.

After so many years of working in this field, what I’ve learned is what sounds good written on paper seems to fall apart once the patient loads reach a certain level.

And any patient with active symptoms would definitely be in isolation. So any rooms that could hold two patients would only be able to take one

I think I’m talking myself into an early retirement

My husband was in hospital administration for more than 40 years before he retired 3 years ago.

After some of the crises caused by the overcrowding from flu viruses in the past years, he is VERY thankful to be retired.

I don't envy you!  You and your fellow health care professionals are in my prayers!
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My husband was in hospital administration for more than 40 years before he retired 3 years ago.

After some of the crises caused by the overcrowding from flu viruses in the past years, he is VERY thankful to be retired.

I don't envy you!  You and your fellow health care professionals are in my prayers!

Healthcare Providers are special people, above and beyond my comparative pitiful station in life. 
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Healthcare Providers are special people, above and beyond my comparative pitiful station in life.

Almost all the rest of us, as far as I'm concerned.

They're like the military, the police and the fire department..... when the rest of us run away, they run toward the danger, and no matter how tough the going gets, they keep at it.

They need our special prayers right now.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Almost all the rest of us, as far as I'm concerned.

They're like the military, the police and the fire department..... when the rest of us run away, they run toward the danger, and no matter how tough the going gets, they keep at it.

They need our special prayers right now.

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Almost all the rest of us, as far as I'm concerned.

They're like the military, the police and the fire department..... when the rest of us run away, they run toward the danger, and no matter how tough the going gets, they keep at it.

They need our special prayers right now.

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I’m assuming she’s probably a 12 hour versus the regular eight hours? We have RNs that do work 12 hour shifts. I’m just a plain old eight hour RN


Yeah, something like that... She's on 2/12, and on call 2/12 and gets paid for 40.
That may not be exactly commonplace as she is specialized OB ICU...
But she was much the same before she made it to OB, when she worked Emergency/Trauma/ICU

By the way, I hear she is on notice: All hands on deck if this hits here... Which means I reckon, an honest 40 or more, which is a substantial increase in staffing by itself.

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He’s spot on. I know that the journalist are unhappy who’s in the White House and they’re trying to impact an election but they’re commenting on things they absolutely know nothing about
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Referring to the OP, do they intend to revisit an' implement Aktion Tiergartenstrasse 4 an' what vehicles will they use as Sonderwagen.

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Referring to the OP, do they intend to revisit an' implement Aktion Tiergartenstrasse 4 an' what vehicles will they use as Sonderwagen.

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Der Sonderwagen

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Referring to the OP, do they intend to revisit an' implement Aktion Tiergartenstrasse 4 an' what vehicles will they use as Sonderwagen.

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I hope they have the good sense to name it something else... 888mouth
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I hope they have the good sense to name it something else... 888mouth

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I hope they have the good sense to name it something else... 888mouth

Of course they will. Bernie has renamed the Wannsee Conference. Now he calls it the Democratic Socialist Agenda.

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Of course they will. Bernie has renamed the Wannsee Conference. Now he calls it the Democratic Socialist Agenda.

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It's all in the nomenclature, my friend.  There are people on Madison Street who make their living this way.
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