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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1250 on: April 10, 2020, 10:03:26 pm »
I get a few different figures but World War II also saw over 400,000 Americans killed. So, we don't want to see that either.  Just selecting certain figures is of limited use. I would say for myself, we are on somewhat of a war footing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_casualties_of_war

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1251 on: April 10, 2020, 10:04:47 pm »
Y'all are talking past each other, it appears to me.  From where I sit (on the employment sidelines), I'm not personally sacrificing anything, other than not being forced to go out and do things when I'd rather just stay at the Castle.  It's the "hermit life!"  Sacrificing is what the working folks down at the Casinos are doing, now that they're all thrown out of work. 

I think what's concerning to us, on varying levels, is how much personal and economic disruption the panic is causing, and it's important because the Rats are prone to stampeding the public when they want to create a crisis to exploit for their gain.

One correction.  It's not the "panic" that's causing the disruption. It's the virus.

The vast majority of Americans aren't panicked. (I actually don't know a single soul who's panicking). They are just being kind..... good, responsible citizens........ considerate of their fellow Americans.

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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1252 on: April 10, 2020, 10:04:59 pm »
Y'all are talking past each other, it appears to me.  From where I sit (on the employment sidelines), I'm not personally sacrificing anything, other than not being forced to go out and do things when I'd rather just stay at the Castle.  It's the "hermit life!"  Sacrificing is what the working folks down at the Casinos are doing, now that they're all thrown out of work. 

I think what's concerning to us, on varying levels, is how much personal and economic disruption the panic is causing, and it's important because the Rats are prone to stampeding the public when they want to create a crisis to exploit for their gain.

Sorry @Cyber Liberty but that is just flat wrong!  Every last one of us is suffering whether or not we realize it.  Every last made up out of thin air dollar the FED creates makes people like you and me that much poorer.  The laws of economics are every bit as rigid as the laws of physics. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Sooner or later somebody pays for everything!
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1253 on: April 10, 2020, 10:07:35 pm »
It has brought no innovation, no creativity. It has only brought deliberate SUPPRESSION. It has turned Hollywood into a bunch of amateurs blogging from their cell phones. Athletics have been shut down. You can't even go to church, and those in the media even blame church for spreading this disease. Government picks and chooses what kind of businesses are allowed to operate. You can't get a haircut. You can't even go to a dentist. Schools are closed. Elections are suspended. Friends can't see each other. A police state roams the streets vowing to fine anyone who dares spend time with more than one other person.

All under the premise that this will slow the spread of the disease. Yet new cases continue to climb, a month after social distancing cut 80% of human contact in this country, a number that was said to be enough to stop this. THIS. IS. NOT. WORKING.

In war and depression we were allowed to see our loved ones in person! We were allowed to work together! At least we had each other, and the government has torn that from us this time! That's what makes this so heinous. They are trampling on free religion, right to assemble, the legislative process, and so much more. The government response to this virus is tearing apart the social fabric of this country and the world.

That's why this must stop at the soonest possible time. We are trading a physical health crisis for a mental health crisis, and it hasn't even stopped the physical crisis. The Chinese Communists are laughing as we now live like them, and we all know that the government is not going to give up the power it has seized for itself without a fight.

We’re on the same page here.

We have politicians like Cuomo offering up medical opinions at the top of every news hour, and on the other side, we have medical experts opining on matters of state. But both with the same underlying theme: you’re all gonna die if you don’t do as we say. I got an idea, why don’t both stay in their own lane.

Which brings me back to my central question. Why are we treating this particular viral outbreak differently than nearly all prior outbreaks?

My answer is simple. It’s because Donald Trump is president, this is an election year, and all past attempts by democrats and their media bed-buddies to depose him have failed.

We are living an overreaction fueled by politics.

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1254 on: April 10, 2020, 10:12:56 pm »
Sorry @Cyber Liberty but that is just flat wrong!  Every last one of us is suffering whether or not we realize it.  Every last made up out of thin air dollar the FED creates makes people like you and me that much poorer.  The laws of economics are every bit as rigid as the laws of physics. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Sooner or later somebody pays for everything!

That's been a constant my entire life.  This is just the latest gimmick to strain the system.
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1255 on: April 10, 2020, 10:13:26 pm »
We’re on the same page here.

We have politicians like Cuomo offering up medical opinions at the top of every news hour, and on the other side, we have medical experts opining on matters of state. But both with the same underlying theme: you’re all gonna die if you don’t do as we say. I got an idea, why don’t both stay in their own lane.

Which brings me back to my central question. Why are we treating this particular viral outbreak differently than nearly all prior outbreaks?

My answer is simple. It’s because Donald Trump is president, this is an election year, and all past attempts by democrats and their media bed-buddies to depose him have failed.

We are living an overreaction fueled by politics.

And Israel, France, UK, South Africa, Italy, South Korea, Taiwan, Argentina and many other countries are in concert with this as well. An amazing conspiracy.

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1256 on: April 10, 2020, 10:15:42 pm »
We’re on the same page here.

We have politicians like Cuomo offering up medical opinions at the top of every news hour, and on the other side, we have medical experts opining on matters of state. But both with the same underlying theme: you’re all gonna die if you don’t do as we say. I got an idea, why don’t both stay in their own lane.

Which brings me back to my central question. Why are we treating this particular viral outbreak differently than nearly all prior outbreaks?

My answer is simple. It’s because Donald Trump is president, this is an election year, and all past attempts by democrats and their media bed-buddies to depose him have failed.

We are living an overreaction fueled by politics.

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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1257 on: April 10, 2020, 10:16:04 pm »
One correction.  It's not the "panic" that's causing the disruption. It's the virus.

The vast majority of Americans aren't panicked. (I actually don't know a single soul who's panicking). They are just being kind..... good, responsible citizens........ considerate of their fellow Americans.

Don't blame the victim for the crime. Blame the perp.

We'll have to agree to disagree (agreeably) about the impact of the panic.  The Corona Virus didn't wipe out the stocks of toilet paper in the stores, the panic did.  Just one example, albeit a pretty small one compared to the millions of people just thrown out of work.

It's not "blaming the victim" to note there is panic adversely impacting the country.
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1258 on: April 10, 2020, 10:17:02 pm »
My answer is simple. It’s because Donald Trump is president, this is an election year, and all past attempts by democrats and their media bed-buddies to depose him have failed.

We are living an overreaction fueled by politics.

One thing is for sure.  If Baraq Obama was still in office, the press would be fawning over how much our government cares, and how fortunate we were to have someone like Obama as our President.
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1259 on: April 10, 2020, 10:18:51 pm »
Sorry @Cyber Liberty but that is just flat wrong!  Every last one of us is suffering whether or not we realize it.  Every last made up out of thin air dollar the FED creates makes people like you and me that much poorer.  The laws of economics are every bit as rigid as the laws of physics. There is no such thing as a free lunch. Sooner or later somebody pays for everything!

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1260 on: April 10, 2020, 10:21:30 pm »
We’re on the same page here.

We have politicians like Cuomo offering up medical opinions at the top of every news hour, and on the other side, we have medical experts opining on matters of state. But both with the same underlying theme: you’re all gonna die if you don’t do as we say. I got an idea, why don’t both stay in their own lane.

Which brings me back to my central question. Why are we treating this particular viral outbreak differently than nearly all prior outbreaks?

My answer is simple. It’s because Donald Trump is president, this is an election year, and all past attempts by democrats and their media bed-buddies to depose him have failed.

We are living an overreaction fueled by politics.

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The whole post is good, but the highlighted part is what has so many fulminating.  It's been politicized since before Day One.
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1261 on: April 10, 2020, 10:23:17 pm »
pointing-up :yowsa:

Hopefully, I hope you and @Bigun note, I am not disagreeing with his observation.  The Debt just cleared, what, $25T?
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1262 on: April 10, 2020, 10:24:29 pm »
One thing is for sure.  If Baraq Obama was still in office, the press would be fawning over how much our government cares, and how fortunate we were to have someone like Obama as our President.

Agreed, and we'd already have 10's of thousands of dead people while the love-fest rolls on.  But our 401Ks would look better.
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« Reply #1263 on: April 10, 2020, 10:27:32 pm »
My answer is simple. It’s because Donald Trump is president, this is an election year, and all past attempts by democrats and their media bed-buddies to depose him have failed.


Nah. Tumpy is in this right up to his lips. This is way past Democrat/Republican.
Just the TRILLIONS being spent makes em all sonsabiches, every single man-jack of em.
Not to mention lost liberties. Lost jobs.

Defending any single bit of this crap is unconscionable.

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« Reply #1264 on: April 10, 2020, 10:28:18 pm »
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We are living an overreaction fueled by politics.

@aligncare

My one and only quibble with that is I think this is actually open warfare against the USA by Communist China happy cheered along by Democrats and the media because their interests (get rid of Trump at any cost) happen to merge at present.
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1265 on: April 10, 2020, 10:29:31 pm »
Hopefully, I hope you and @Bigun note, I am not disagreeing with his observation.  The Debt just cleared, what, $25T?

That alone is indefensible.
Throw the bastards out. All of em.

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« Reply #1266 on: April 10, 2020, 10:30:14 pm »
During WWII, our government asked the people to put their lives on the line.  Millions were sent out of their communities to face dangers in unfamiliar places.  Women abandoned abandoned the safety of their homes to take factory jobs and produce the needs of the nation.  Today, our government is doing the exact opposite.
I see the doctors and nurses and even my grocery store clerk putting their lives on the line.  Does that not make sense to you?

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« Reply #1267 on: April 10, 2020, 10:32:45 pm »
Hopefully, I hope you and @Bigun note, I am not disagreeing with his observation.  The Debt just cleared, what, $25T?

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« Reply #1268 on: April 10, 2020, 10:35:59 pm »
I see the doctors and nurses and even my grocery store clerk putting their lives on the line.  Does that not make sense to you?

There are many others willing to do the same, but have seen their jobs eliminated as "non-essential".  Keep in mind that I am not the one here saying that people aren't sacrificing like they did 75 years ago.
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« Reply #1269 on: April 10, 2020, 10:41:41 pm »
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Gates’ Globalist Vaccine Agenda: A Win-Win for Pharma and Mandatory Vaccinations


By Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Chairman, Children’s Health Defense

Vaccines, for Bill Gates, are a strategic philanthropy that feed his many vaccine-related businesses (including Microsoft’s ambition to control a global vaccination ID enterprise) and give him dictatorial control of global health policy.

Gates’ obsession with vaccines seems to be fueled by a conviction to save the world with technology.

Promising his share of $450 million of $1.2 billion to eradicate Polio, Gates took control of India’s National Technical Advisory Group on Immunization (NTAGI) which mandated up to 50 doses (Table 1) of polio vaccines through overlapping immunization programs to children before the age of five. Indian doctors blame the Gates campaign for a devastating non-polio acute flaccid paralysis (NPAFP) epidemic that paralyzed 490,000 children beyond expected rates between 2000 and 2017. In 2017, the Indian government dialed back Gates’ vaccine regimen and asked Gates and his vaccine policies to leave India. NPAFP rates dropped precipitously.

Read more at: https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/government-corruption/gates-globalist-vaccine-agenda-a-win-win-for-pharma-and-mandatory-vaccination/?utm_source=salsa&eType=EmailBlastContent&eId=f58164a5-11a0-44dd-aa66-03e639a9ab76

This is what is to be alert of. I'm not even sure if this is pro or con Gates. I think it's against but I will have to read more.

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1270 on: April 10, 2020, 10:45:07 pm »
Hopefully, I hope you and @Bigun note, I am not disagreeing with his observation.  The Debt just cleared, what, $25T?

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« Reply #1271 on: April 10, 2020, 10:51:15 pm »
This is what is to be alert of. I'm not even sure if this is pro or con Gates. I think it's against but I will have to read more.

The goal is to drag this out as long as possible so that a vaccine becomes practical.  If the disease is allowed to run its course naturally, then the population as a whole would have developed a collective immunity large enough to where an epidemic would no longer be a threat and a vaccine would be rendered useless.  But if we keep everyone quarantined and isolated long enough, then the threat of epidemic would still be real, and a vaccine more valuable.
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"The RCMP says arrests under the act, violations of which could include a fine of up to $750,000"

So they're going to financially ruin individuals who "don't comply" ???
That's Canada for you.
Never wanted to go there, ain't changing my opinion.

One thing I've noticed -- I've never seen a poster to this board self-identify as being Canadian...

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1273 on: April 10, 2020, 10:58:44 pm »
Nah. Tumpy is in this right up to his lips. This is way past Democrat/Republican.
Just the TRILLIONS being spent makes em all sonsabiches, every single man-jack of em.
Not to mention lost liberties. Lost jobs.

Defending any single bit of this crap is unconscionable.

We disagree, and that's OK.  The media is bent on destroying Trump because he beat Hillary.  It's that simple.  You would be hearing the same distortions if it was Ronald Reagan, in fact...we did hear them then too.  "Ketchup" = "vegetable."
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« Reply #1274 on: April 10, 2020, 11:02:35 pm »
This is what is to be alert of. I'm not even sure if this is pro or con Gates. I think it's against but I will have to read more.

It's pro-Robert Kennedy.
For unvaccinated, we are looking at a winter of severe illness and death — if you’re unvaccinated — for themselves, their families, and the hospitals they’ll soon overwhelm. Sloe Joe Biteme 12/16
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