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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1200 on: April 10, 2020, 02:49:00 pm »
Most disconcerning, is that a week ago, we were told that maybe 2M would die, now it is 60,000.  From my environmental and safety profession, I had to deal and use all kind of different models.  I guarantee that I never saw that level of disparity in their use.  I can just guess what look my plant manager would have given me if I would have told him that 10,000 would die from dispersion modeling, and then come back 10 minutes later and say none.  Credibility is a helluva competency  to waste.
Oh, it hasn't been wasted. In a year where upstream CAPEX in this area has been cut by over 50%, where oilfield jobs are evaporating like alcohol on a hot plate, where tariffs have reduced ag trade, where this COVID-19 shutdown has taken care of strangling most of the rest, where the hospitality industry is dead, My glorious local tax man has decided my home is worth 47% more than last year, even with ZERO improvements, and they won't be holding the abatement hearings in person, but by phone, full steam(roller) ahead.

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1201 on: April 10, 2020, 02:51:20 pm »
Oh, it hasn't been wasted. In a year where upstream CAPEX in this area has been cut by over 50%, where oilfield jobs are evaporating like alcohol on a hot plate, where tariffs have reduced ag trade, where this COVID-19 shutdown has taken care of strangling most of the rest, where the hospitality industry is dead, My glorious local tax man has decided my home is worth 47% more than last year, even with ZERO improvements, and they won't be holding the abatement hearings in person, but by phone, full steam(roller) ahead.

A REMINDER THAT THE ONLY BUSINESS GOING FULL TILT IS THE GOVERNMENT, WHETHER YOU GET TO SAY JACK OR NOT.

Sad! Truly sad!
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1202 on: April 10, 2020, 02:53:04 pm »
Most disconcerning, is that a week ago, we were told that maybe 2M would die, now it is 60,000.   

Nope.  2M infected 100k-200k dead.

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A few days ago, I saw on line somewhere, a woman due to have birth at that time, died from the virus and doctors took the baby out of her and it lived.  There are so many terrible things happening to people now.

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1205 on: April 10, 2020, 04:47:05 pm »
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Venezuela: One of the Countries with Fewer Tests in the Hemisphere | Caracas Chronicles
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There are 1,346,299 coronavirus cases and over 74,600 deaths in the world. Europe has over half of the cases (655,000), followed by (352,000) and Asia Pacific (112,000), but only in America the curve keeps rising.

Read more at:  https://www.caracaschronicles.com/2020/04/07/venezuela-one-of-the-countries-with-fewer-tests-in-the-hemisphere/

India:
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'We will die': Andhra doc who alleged shortage of masks, PPE in viral video suspended




https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/we-will-die-andhra-doc-who-alleged-shortage-masks-ppe-viral-video-suspended-122185

Singapore, model country, cases now in an upswing:

https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2020-04-10/singapore-reports-198-new-coronavirus-infections-and-seventh-death

Relatively low.


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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1207 on: April 10, 2020, 05:07:48 pm »
They didn’t put restrictions on social contact, and it looks like they’re paying for it.

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Well,what did you expect from "progressive socialists"?
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1210 on: April 10, 2020, 05:13:43 pm »
It has brought no innovation, no creativity. It has only brought deliberate SUPPRESSION.

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With more to come.

Isn't the unofficial slogan of the Dim Party to "Not let any disaster go unexploited"?

No doubt there will soon be an official finding that "blacks and browns suffered the most,and it was all part of the Trump and RNC plan."
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1211 on: April 10, 2020, 05:18:40 pm »
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Lukashenka Disparages COVID-19 Victims As Belarus Curve Steepens

Belarusian President Alyaksandr Lukashenka has made disparaging comments about victims of the coronavirus, dismissing his country's caseload as "miniscule" and insisting it is "no catastrophe." Yet throughout April, the number of officially confirmed cases has roughly doubled every three days.

https://www.rferl.org/a/lukashenka-disparages-covid-19-victims-as-belarus-curve-steepens-/30546329.html

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1212 on: April 10, 2020, 05:29:36 pm »
Roseland Hospital phlebotomist: 30% of those tested have coronavirus antibody[/b]

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A phlebotomist working at Roseland Community Hospital said Thursday that 30% to 50% of patients tested for the coronavirus have antibodies while only around 10% to 20% of those tested have the active virus.

Sumaya Owaynat, a phlebotomy technician, said she tests between 400 and 600 patients on an average day in the parking lot at Roseland Community Hospital. Drive-thru testing is from 9 a.m. to noon and 1 to 4 p.m. each day. However, the hospital has a limited number of tests they can give per day

Owaynat said the number of patients coming through the testing center who appear to have already had coronavirus and gotten over it is far greater than those who currently have the disease.


This is HUGE news if true!
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1213 on: April 10, 2020, 05:31:29 pm »
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Taiwan’s Success Is the Bane of Beijing’s Global Coronavirus Propaganda
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Much to Beijing’s chagrin, praise of Taiwan’s success has provided the democracy with much-needed global exposure.

Over the last few weeks, the world has observed a grand PR campaign from Beijing, an attempt to shift the global narrative in China’s favor by touting its containment of COVID-19 as the successful outcome of its political model. The outgoing message is that China’s anti-coronavirus campaign “demonstrated the notable advantages of the leadership of the Communist Party of China and the system of socialism with Chinese characteristics,” and that Singapore, Japan, and South Korea “based their responses on the experience and lessons drawn from China’s successful battle with the virus.” The Global Times has quoted Chinese analysts stating that China’s model is the “only proven successful model so far that could be replicated to halt the virus once and for all.”

The other core message within China’s narrative is that “China has acted as a responsible big country” in playing a leadership role to combat the virus based on Xi Jinping’s concept of a “Community of Shared Future for Mankind.” China has backed its narrative by launching a “mask diplomacy” campaign, providing medical masks and ventilators as well as dispatching medical personnel to countries seeking aid.

Read more at:   https://thediplomat.com/2020/04/taiwans-success-is-the-bane-of-beijings-global-coronavirus-propaganda/

It's too bad all countries did not act like Taiwan, smart measures, not Draconian measures.  Of course, we are huge, Taiwan tiny.

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1214 on: April 10, 2020, 05:33:01 pm »
Roseland Hospital phlebotomist: 30% of those tested have coronavirus antibody[/b]

They all burden the health system.  It's not a simple question of whether they die or not.

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1215 on: April 10, 2020, 05:34:39 pm »
Most disconcerning, is that a week ago, we were told that maybe 2M would die, now it is 60,000.   

Nope.  2M infected 100k-200k dead.

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Nope....remember these reports from a few weeks ago?

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/03/17/terrifying-new-research-warns-22-million-could-die-coronavirus-us-without-drastic

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8082327/15-MILLION-people-die-best-case-coronavirus-scenario.html  March 6th

Oh you mean the ones from before quarantine and self distancing?  The report from a month ago that convinced the President to declare a National Emergency.  Sorry for my confusion.  Got it.


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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1216 on: April 10, 2020, 05:41:31 pm »
Nope.  2M infected 100k-200k dead.

Oh you mean the ones from before quarantine and self distancing?  The report from a month ago that convinced the President to declare a National Emergency.  Sorry for my confusion.  Got it.

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I'd be careful with using Common Dreams though, they say "progressivism", it's up to all of us to decide what they are. Of course, that doesn't mean all of their info is wrong though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Dreams

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1217 on: April 10, 2020, 05:42:21 pm »
Roseland Hospital phlebotomist: 30% of those tested have coronavirus antibody[/b]

This is HUGE news if true!

She’s drawing blood in a drive through testing center in a parking lot? :pondering:
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1218 on: April 10, 2020, 05:48:48 pm »
:thumbsup: Revision of history is not allowed here.
How about reading and logic?

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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1219 on: April 10, 2020, 05:49:52 pm »
She’s drawing blood in a drive through testing center in a parking lot? :pondering:

It's possible.  It's not much more invasive than the nasal swab, which many people don't realizes is a swab from the back of the sinus cavity and requires a 6-inch swab to reach.  My Nephew found that out the hard way.
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1220 on: April 10, 2020, 05:51:11 pm »
How about reading and logic?

Did you read the part where social-distancing regulations had no impact on models that had already accounted for it?  You are reaching pretty hard to find a "Trump lied, people died" angle.
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« Reply #1221 on: April 10, 2020, 06:01:23 pm »
How about reading and logic?
Did you read the part where social-distancing regulations had no impact on models that had already accounted for it? 
I read the part that said "one week" then "a few weeks" then posted a link from a month ago.
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You are reaching pretty hard to find a "Trump lied, people died" angle.
You are reaching pretty hard to put words in my mouth.  Words you quoted that I don't believe and never said.  Since my President declared a National Emergency I have supported his leadership in fighting COVID-19 because I believe him when he says his top priority is saving lives, and I believe he has saved thousands of lives already.

I'm a little hurt frankly @Cyber Liberty
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« Reply #1222 on: April 10, 2020, 06:16:40 pm »
I read the part that said "one week" then "a few weeks" then posted a link from a month ago.You are reaching pretty hard to put words in my mouth.  Words you quoted that I don't believe and never said.  Since my President declared a National Emergency I have supported his leadership in fighting COVID-19 because I believe him when he says his top priority is saving lives, and I believe he has saved thousands of lives already.

I'm a little hurt frankly @Cyber Liberty

And every time you refer to Donald Trump as "My President," a little piece of me dies inside.   :shrug:

We manage.
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Re: World Coronavirus News II with Updates
« Reply #1223 on: April 10, 2020, 06:23:03 pm »
And every time you refer to Donald Trump as "My President," a little piece of me dies inside.   :shrug:

We manage.

I find some of President Trump's supporters embarrassing too, but not you, Bud.   :beer:

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« Reply #1224 on: April 10, 2020, 06:32:08 pm »
I find some of President Trump's supporters embarrassing too, but not you, Bud.   :beer:

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