2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season: Preliminary Burden Estimates....the hype is unwarranted when compared wi

[rangerrebew]

Monday, March 2, 2020
2019-2020 U.S. Flu Season: Preliminary Burden Estimates....the hype is unwarranted when compared with "The Flu"
 
CDC estimates* that, from October 1, 2019, through February 22, 2020, there have been:
32,000,000 – 45,000,000
flu illnesses
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14,000,000 – 21,000,000
flu medical visits
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310,000 – 560,000
flu hospitalizations
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18,000 – 46,000
flu deaths
 
*Because influenza surveillance does not capture all cases of flu that occur in the U.S., CDC provides these estimated ranges to better reflect the larger burden of influenza. These estimates are calculated based on CDC’s weekly influenza surveillance data and are preliminary.

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This web page provides weekly, preliminary estimates of the cumulative in-season numbers of flu illnesses, medical visits, hospitalizations, and deaths in the United States. CDC does not know the exact number of people who have been sick and affected by influenza because influenza is not a reportable disease in most areas of the U.S. However, CDC has estimated the burden of flu since 2010 using a mathematical model that is based on data collected through the U.S. Influenza Surveillance System, a network that covers approximately 8.5% of the U.S. population (~27 million people).
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https://commonsensewonder.blogspot.com/2020/03/2019-2020-us-flu-season-preliminary.html

[DB]

That's a 0.1% death rate or one in a thousand.

If the Chinese coronavirus is 2% (1 in 50) that is 20 times worse. That's seriously worse.

That's the difference.

[Right_in_Virginia]

That's a 0.1% death rate or one in a thousand.

If the Chinese coronavirus is 2% (1 in 50) that is 20 times worse. That's seriously worse.

That's the difference.

Please explain the 1 in 50, 2% @DB

Thanks.

[DB]

Please explain the 1 in 50, 2% @DB

Thanks.

1 in 50 is 2% (1/50 = 0.02).

[thackney]

1 in 50 is 2% (1/50 = 0.02).

Maybe a reference:

6 key coronavirus numbers you should know
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-cases-deaths-countries-symptoms-contagious

...Of people who contract the virus, 2.3 percent die overall.

That’s according to a study of more than 44,000 cases in China through February 11. That’s far more than the estimated 0.1 percent of people infected with the flu who die (though the flu has infected millions of people this season in the United States alone, so the number of flu deaths is much higher). The actual death rate for coronavirus may not be known for some time, until researchers can determine how many people were infected, but didn’t have symptoms, or had very mild symptoms and didn’t get tested....

[aligncare]

One more thing about Corona deaths. If you’re lucky enough to hear or read an actual random act of journalism, you’d know that most or all of the victims had an underlying pre-existing condition, which is the same reason for death with the ordinary, seasonal flu.

So, this whole thing is nothing but plain old, seasonal, democrat, fear mongering.

[thackney]

One more thing about Corona deaths. If you’re lucky enough to hear or read an actual random act of journalism, you’d know that most or all of the victims had an underlying pre-existing condition, which is the same reason for death with the ordinary, seasonal flu.

So, this whole thing is nothing but plain old, seasonal, democrat, fear mongering.

Yes, so unless you have say diabetes or heart disease or COPD, not much to worry about.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/what-new-phase-coronavirus-outbreak-united-states-means-you

But the virus is estimated to kill about 2 percent of people it infects, especially older people and those with other health conditions such as diabetes and cardiovascular disease.

But then:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2019/01/31/heart-disease-nearly-half-u-s-adults-have-it-study-finds/2729955002/

Nearly half of U.S. adults deal with some form of cardiovascular disease, said a new study, driven largely by changes in guidelines for classifying high blood pressure.

According to the study from the American Heart Association, 121.5 million Americans, or about 48.5 percent, dealt with heart or blood vessel disease as of 2016.

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2017/p0718-diabetes-report.html

More than 100 million Americans have diabetes or prediabetes

https://www.cdc.gov/copd/index.html

COPD makes breathing difficult for the 16 million Americans who have this disease.

[DB]

Maybe a reference:

6 key coronavirus numbers you should know
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-cases-deaths-countries-symptoms-contagious

...Of people who contract the virus, 2.3 percent die overall.

That’s according to a study of more than 44,000 cases in China through February 11. That’s far more than the estimated 0.1 percent of people infected with the flu who die (though the flu has infected millions of people this season in the United States alone, so the number of flu deaths is much higher). The actual death rate for coronavirus may not be known for some time, until researchers can determine how many people were infected, but didn’t have symptoms, or had very mild symptoms and didn’t get tested....

I had an heart attack about 7 years ago and had kidney cancer about 4 years ago.

I have a daughter that is going to college at a school that has had one official case of the Chinese cornavirus.

My 84 year old mother lives in the same house as the rest of the family.

So ya, I'm a little nervous...

[thackney]

I had an heart attack about 7 years ago and had kidney cancer about 4 years ago.

I have a daughter that is going to college at a school that has had one official case of the Chinese cornavirus.

My 84 year old mother lives in the same house as the rest of the family.

So ya, I'm a little nervous...

Diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure and bad family heart history.  I had a really bad cough from before Thanksgiving until February this year.  Never had anything last that long and kept me from work several separate days.

My father-in-law is 95 with significant COPD.

Be well, be aware, be careful.

[DB]

Diabetes, high cholesterol, high blood pressure and bad family heart history.  I had a really bad cough from before Thanksgiving until February this year.  Never had anything last that long and kept me from work several separate days.

My father-in-law is 95 with significant COPD.

Be well, be aware, be careful.

Good advice. You take care too.

[libertybele]

That's a 0.1% death rate or one in a thousand.

If the Chinese coronavirus is 2% (1 in 50) that is 20 times worse. That's seriously worse.

That's the difference.

A little different perspective; keep in mind that the flu has infected appx. 19,000,000 and rising. The coronavirus has infected appx. 92,000.  That is a significant difference.   Also, the mortality rate stats indicate Outside of Wuhan — the city at the epicenter of the outbreak, the death rate in China has been much lower: about 0.7 percent. That's fewer than 1 fatality per 100 cases.

It is very frustrating and concerning; the stats continue to change and it seems no report is giving the same statistics.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/03/809904660/why-the-death-rate-from-coronavirus-is-plunging-in-china

[DB]

A little different perspective; keep in mind that the flu has infected appx. 19,000,000 and rising. The coronavirus has infected appx. 92,000.  That is a significant difference.   Also, the mortality rate stats indicate Outside of Wuhan — the city at the epicenter of the outbreak, the death rate in China has been much lower: about 0.7 percent. That's fewer than 1 fatality per 100 cases.

It is very frustrating and concerning; the stats continue to change and it seems no report is giving the same statistics.

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/03/809904660/why-the-death-rate-from-coronavirus-is-plunging-in-china

The WHO just upped the fatality rate to over 3%.