American Socialism Isn't Marxism—but It's Still a Problem

[rangerrebew]

American Socialism Isn't Marxism—but It's Still a Problem
 
 
02/29/2020 Allen Gindler

Undoubtedly, the Democratic Party has made a left turn, but how far left have they found themselves in the first half of the twenty-first century? Many right-wing pundits, political analysts, and laypersons persistently and interchangeably call them "Marxists," "communists," or "socialists." But such imprecise use of these terms tells us little about what ideology these people have actually adopted.

To adequately and intelligently set forth arguments against all sorts of collectivist movements, it is necessary to understand the historical development of socialist thought and to understand all the nuances of its general provisions. It is very shallow and utterly incorrect to view all socialists as Marxists, for example. Shots fired in this way will not hit their target. Recall how Obama ridiculed accusations of sympathy for Marxism and mocked Republicans for calling health care reform "some Bolshevik plot." He deflected such criticism effectively, because it often did not apply to him; at the same time, he was able to veil the fact that he was a socialist of a different flavor. Most modern socialists in the United States do not follow either Marxism or Bolshevism at all.

https://mises.org/wire/american-socialism-isnt-marxism%E2%80%94-its-still-problem

[EdinVA]

IOW, it's like being a little bit pregnant...

[sneakypete]

American Socialism Isn't Marxism

Only because they have no real power. Give them the power to make laws,and then watch how quickly Marxism pops up as the law of the land.

[Bigun]

It's Marxism regardless of the protestations.

[goatprairie]

It's like when Muslim radicals not officially allied to Al Qaeda or ISIS are given a pass by the media.
"See, they can't be Islamo-fascist killers because they're not official members of some radical Islamic org. They're just lone wolf mental cases. We don't know why they killed all those people."
A rose by any other name would smell as sweet, and  a Marxist by any other name would still be totalitarian statist.
Tell me Bernie Sanders and AOC are radically different from Marx, Lenin, etal.  They're not.
If they got power and their methods didn't work the way they wanted, they'd double down on the Marxism.
The Green New Deal is just another version of Das Kapital. What they are aiming for is total control over everybody's actions....to "save the planet."

[Fishrrman]

Title:
"American Socialism Isn't Marxism"

To which Pete replied:
"Only because they have no real power. Give them the power to make laws,and then watch how quickly Marxism pops up as the law of the land."

Once again, Fishrrman's American Timeline:
2019: USA -- United States of America
2027: USSA -- United Socialist States of America
2035: USSSA -- United Soviet Socialist States of America
2042:  ?????

Don't worry, it can't happen here.
Right...?