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Conventional Wisdom About the Democrats’ Primary Is Wrong


February 14, 2020

There are three widely proclaimed verities now bandied about in the aftermath of the Democratic presidential primary in New Hampshire on Tuesday.

They are that Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) is a clear front-runner with a chance for a break-through to a commanding lead in the quest for the nomination. The second is that former South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg is a serious candidate with a chance for the Democratic nomination, and the third is that former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg has been providentially assisted by the disintegration of the candidacy of former Vice President Joe Biden and the bunching together of Sanders, Buttigieg, and Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), and will seize the leadership of the race when he gets to the ballot in 15 states simultaneously on Super Tuesday, March 3.

I think all three of these deductions are mistaken.

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Frankly I think that this time around the whole Dis-Loyal Opposition primary process is nothing more than a charade. The Real nominee is going to come out of a brokered convention an' it is not going to be any of the declared candidates. The primaries are going to be so bungled an' chaotic that there will be no frontrunner come July. Then in Milwaukee after the failed first vote the delegates will be free to draft the Pantsuit Assassin. Why you aks? 'cuz they beliebe that she is entitled.

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I could see Klobuchar emerging as the least unacceptable of the sorry lot. If she continues to get traction, it may depend on whether Bloomberg really wants it or would be willing to defer to her as the answer to Sanders.
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Frankly I think that this time around the whole Dis-Loyal Opposition primary process is nothing more than a charade. The Real nominee is going to come out of a brokered convention an' it is not going to be any of the declared candidates. The primaries are going to be so bungled an' chaotic that there will be no frontrunner come July. Then in Milwaukee after the failed first vote the delegates will be free to draft the Pantsuit Assassin. Why you aks? 'cuz they beliebe that she is entitled.

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It has been the subject of considerable speculation that the Hildebeast will rise again for a rematch.

Coming out of a brokered convention, she would be spared the rigors of a  long primary season of campaigning, something I doubt her health could withstand.
While it has been speculated that she'd have a hard time doing even the campaigning for the general, careful editing and control of any video, use of carefully selected file footage and staged small crowd venues, limited personal appearances where the venue would require a large screen and carefully controlled lighting, make-up and camera angles--especially the latter if turnout is low--could be used to make her appear more viable than she likely is. The same tactic was used to re-elect Quentin Burdick to the US Senate (D-ND, 1980s) with great success.
Hillary and her minions were so sure she was a shoo-in last time that these things were not carefully managed by her handlers or the MSM, but that mistake would not be made again. 
Despite reaping the dubious physical rewards of decades of decadence and self-abuse, and the surgically muted etchings graven by lust for power and all that goes with that pursued to the fullest, I have little doubt that she could be marketed as a desirable candidate for the Dems, overcoming the more blatant lunacy of the rest of the field.
The Socialists have gone completely round the bend, working so hard to promise the moon and stars and galaxies far, far, away for free that they have lost credibility with all but the fraction of the party who haven't ever had to buy their own lunch with their own paycheck and the hardcore Communists. 
I don't see Mayor Pete as being viable, except for the occasional 'virtue signal',simply because he wasn't a great mayor of anywhere seen as that major in the big picture, doesn't have the chops as a politician, and seems to be using his bedroom practices as the reason to elect him--the one determining factor to separate him from the rest catering to the Free Stuff Army and the totalitarian wing of the Party. 
While American media may have made a project of gushing over the last Democrat First Spouse, I think that even the sympathetic folks behind the scenes in the MSM would have a hard time presenting the First Laddie to soccer mom America. Certainly, one's bedroom practices aren't the reason to vote for them, at least for 98% of the population, and frankly, I think that would work against him, especially when the potential complications of State visits to Muslim nations come to play.
While others have derided Bloomberg as being too NYC, another rich white guy control freak from the urban northeast,  keep in mind that that profile appeals to Democrats who tend to be urban control freaks and who cater on the side to the Gibsmedat Nation as long as they can use other people's money to do so.
Looking at the maps of the last POTUS contest, these are precisely the demographics which voted Democrat. I'm not counting him out, and even though his jihad against the RKBA may be a deal breaker with rural and blue collar Democrats, it's a game of electoral votes, not just the popular vote, and those electoral votes are concentrated in States with very large cities, and states which increasingly have undercut the Electoral College concept with winner take all or national popular vote measures. As much as I would like to dismiss him, especially with his evangelical anti-RKBA stance, I cannot.

The only other outlier is Steyer, who has used a long run of commercials on TV to get his name out there, and short of critical analysis seems reasonable on first pass, especially in contrast to the blatant Socialists. Of course, no Democratic candidate seems reasonable in the face of critical analysis, especially to one who values their Second Amendment Rights (or the Constitution in general), but we're talking Democrats, who tend either to be true believers or LIVs who just look for the best promises of free stuff. Name recognition means something, too.

At this point, short of Hillary rising like the undead from a brokered convention for another bad sequel, it's a tossup.

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Frankly I think that this time around the whole Dis-Loyal Opposition primary process is nothing more than a charade. The Real nominee is going to come out of a brokered convention an' it is not going to be anyf of the declared candidates. The primaries are going to be so bungled an' chaotic that there will be no frontrunner come July. Then in Milwaukee after the failed first vote the delegates will be free to draft the Pantsuit Assassin. Why you aks? 'cuz they beliebe that she is entitled.

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I heard on the radio today that Bloomberg was contemplating suicide Hillary as his running mate.
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Nita Lowey may have stepped aside to give Clinton her senate seat, but those days are over. Aside from Bloomberg, whose intentions are murky, none of these candidates would ever release their delegates to Clinton. Even if they did, Sanders would still run 3rd party and she would have no chance. She's well aware of this. There just isn't any realistic way Clinton gets the nomination.

OTOH, a Trump reelection gives her a last-gasp shot in 2024 if she's still breathing.
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I could see Klobuchar emerging as the least unacceptable of the sorry lot. If she continues to get traction, it may depend on whether Bloomberg really wants it or would be willing to defer to her as the answer to Sanders.

Yep. Klobuchar is gaining, and it’s very likely she’ll do well. I would not count Mayor Mike out or underestimate him. With his age, I don’t think he’ll run again in 2024, where Klobuchar is still young and waiting to run in 2024 would allow her to get more experience under her belt.
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