Alan Dershowitz: When Trump Is Acquitted He Will No Longer Be Impeached – The Impeachment Disappears

[mystery-ak]

Alan Dershowitz: When Trump Is Acquitted He Will No Longer Be Impeached – The Impeachment Disappears (VIDEO)
 by Jim Hoft January 31, 2020

Former Harvard Law Professor and noted author Alan Dershowitz had more bad news for Democrats on Friday night.

When President Trump is acquitted next week he will no longer be impeached.  It will be over.  It will be removed from his record.

Sorry, Nancy.
The charade is over.

    Alan Dershowitz:  Nancy Pelosi has pulled a real sharp one.  She’s said even if he’s acquitted and vindicated he’s still impeached.  That should not be how it is.  Why?  He did not have a fair trial.  He was indicted.  And what happens if a person is acquitted after indictment?   The indictment disappears…   And when you deny someone due process saying, “Well we’re only indicting him.”   You can’t come back and say, “But he’s still indicted!”  If he wins this I think no one should regard him as having been impeached anymore than you would regard someone who’s indicted as still being indicted if he won a unanimous twelve person jury.


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[IsailedawayfromFR]

Interesting.

Who do we believe, Dershowitz or Pelosi?

[Cyber Liberty]

Interesting.

Who do we believe, Dershowitz or Pelosi?

That's easy:  Pelosi.  The status of being Impeached is in the eye of the beholder, and Never Trumpers will never accept the acquittal.

[darroll]

Lets hope..
But watch for snakes.

[Chosen Daughter]

That's easy:  Pelosi.  The status of being Impeached is in the eye of the beholder, and Never Trumpers will never accept the acquittal.

I accept the acquittal.  I am glad it is over. 

I feel sad for bad man Bolton though.

[sneakypete]

Interesting.

Who do we believe, Dershowitz or Pelosi?

@IsailedawayfromFR

And really,what difference does it make? He will still be in office,and he will still be looking forward to getting back at the people who tried to stick a knife in his back.

[Applewood]

Impeachment is the bringing of charges.  So yes, Trump has been impeached.  However, he has not been convicted. 

Only three U.S. presidents have been formally impeached by Congress—Andrew Johnson, Bill Clinton and Donald Trump. So far, no U.S. president has ever been removed from office through impeachment.

https://www.history.com/news/how-many-presidents-impeached

[Cyber Liberty]

Impeachment is the bringing of charges.  So yes, Trump has been impeached.  However, he has not been convicted. 

https://www.history.com/news/how-many-presidents-impeached

As Pelosi quipped, "Trump is Impeached 'Forever!'"  A tattoo he'll proudly wear.

[Applewood]

As Pelosi quipped, "Trump is Impeached 'Forever!'"  A tattoo he'll proudly wear.

Good for him.  I was just saying the esteemed Alan Dershowitz is incorrect.  Trump has been impeached and he will always be listed as such along with Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.  But like those two presidents, it will also be noted that Trump was acquitted. 

[Bigun]

If someone gets indicted for murder and found innocent at trial does he remain indicted?

[mystery-ak]

If someone gets indicted for murder and found innocent at trial does he remain indicted?

No...of course not....but I was taught that when you are impeached in the House that stays with you as impeached Johnson and Clinton....so now I don't know what to believe..lol

[Cyber Liberty]

Good for him.  I was just saying the esteemed Alan Dershowitz is incorrect.  Trump has been impeached and he will always be listed as such along with Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton.  But like those two presidents, it will also be noted that Trump was acquitted.

I agree with you.  Dersh may be correct, "technically," but history records "Impeached."  And I still think Trump will wear that proudly.

[Applewood]

If someone gets indicted for murder and found innocent at trial does he remain indicted?

No, but in writing, say, a history of the indicted person, it can be said that he or she was indicted. 

A finding of not guilty does not alter the fact that a person was indicted. 

Same with impeachment.  If the senate does not convict, it does not change the fact that the president was impeached.

[Applewood]

Impeachment is the process by which a legislative body levels charges against a government official. Impeachment does not in itself remove the official definitively from office; it is similar to an indictment in criminal law, and thus it is essentially the statement of charges against the official. Whereas in some countries the individual is provisionally removed, in others they can remain in office during the trial. Once impeached, an individual must then face the possibility of conviction on the charges by a legislative vote, which is separate from the impeachment, but flows from it, and a judgment which convicts the official on the articles of impeachment entails the official's definitive removal from office.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment

[libertybele]

I accept the acquittal.  I am glad it is over. 

I feel sad for bad man Bolton though.

This is not over.  He has not been acquitted -- final voting won't be until Wednesday. Everyone is saying that he will be acquitted but anything can happen between now and then.

[Bigun]

This is not over.  He has not been acquitted -- final voting won't be until Wednesday. Everyone is saying that he will be acquitted but anything can happen between now and then.

It's over @libertybele  No way in hell are 20 republicans in the senate are going to vote to convict him of anything.

[mystery-ak]

This is not over.  He has not been acquitted -- final voting won't be until Wednesday. Everyone is saying that he will be acquitted but anything can happen between now and then.

I will be nervous until the final vote on Wed....I just don't trust those Rats...

[austingirl]

Dersh may be correct, "technically," but history records "Impeached."  And I still think Trump will wear that proudly.

There will be a gigantic asterisk about the impeachment with its anticonstitutional process in the House and the illegitimate articles.

[Cyber Liberty]

There will be a gigantic asterisk about the impeachment with its anticonstitutional process in the House and the illegitimate articles.

And, if as expected, constant Impeachment is the new normal when the opposite Party controls the House, the asterisk will fade away...like a prison tat on a 75 year old biker chick.

[240B]

There will be a gigantic asterisk about the impeachment with its anticonstitutional process in the House and the illegitimate articles.

History books are written, published, and purchased, almost exclusively by Liberal Democrats.
They will always list him as an impeached President whether it is true or not.
Liberals are not worried so much about 'truth'. You can see that now with all the crap they write about history.
White people are always BAD; Colored people are always innocent angels.
Their primary interest is always about the Communist agenda.

[Applewood]

I accept the acquittal.  I am glad it is over. 

I feel sad for bad man Bolton though.

I wouldn't worry about Bolton.  I expect his book will be published despite Trump's efforts to block it and he'll make a ton of money,.  Even if the book is not published, he will be in demand for talk shows and such.  I don't expect Bolton will need a GoFundMe page anytime soon. 

[truth_seeker]

And, if as expected, constant Impeachment is the new normal when the opposite Party controls the House, the asterisk will fade away...like a prison tat on a 75 year old biker chick.

"Impeachment" has not impaired BJ Clinton

He's made very lucrative speeches, benefitted from his family "foundation, and visited Pedophile Island.

 

[sneakypete]

If someone gets indicted for murder and found innocent at trial does he remain indicted?

@Bigun

No,but he will always be someone who was put on trial for murder. Impeachment is the political equivalent of a criminal trial.

I always thought being impeached was the same thing as being convicted,but I was wrong. In political terms,it is the equivalent of being under suspicion of having committed a crime. The vote next week will be the equivalent of having the jury announce a verdict.

[sneakypete]

No...of course not....but I was taught that when you are impeached in the House that stays with you as impeached Johnson and Clinton....so now I don't know what to believe..lol

@mystery-ak   Impeached is a political term that is the equivalent of being indicted and put on trial by Congress.  You then go before the Senate,which is the equivalent of a jury. If they find you guilty,you are removed from office. If they don't find you guilty,nothing at all happens to you.

Just like the person that was indicted,put on trial,and found Not Guilty will forever have been charged with a crime and put on trial,a President is forever know to have been indicted for a crime or crimes,but found to be "not guilty" by the US Senate.  "Indicted,but not convicted".

Consider Congress to be the equivalent of a Grand Jury,and the US Senate to be the equivalent of a federal courtroom with multiple judges,and maybe it will make more sense. 

[sneakypete]

There will be a gigantic asterisk about the impeachment with its anticonstitutional process in the House and the illegitimate articles.

@austingirl

Knowing Trump a little better now,I am guessing he will be bragging about that in the future,and bragging about beating it and going on to crush the Dims. He will see that asterisk by his name in the history books as a mark of honor.