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LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Trial Day 1
« on: January 21, 2020, 03:05:37 pm »
Today's proceedings starts at 1pm est
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Trial Day 1
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2020, 03:12:08 pm »
Today's proceedings starts at 1pm est

Oh joy!  Thanks for starting this thread -- I'll get the updates in here rather being aggravated by MSM updates.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Trial Day 1
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2020, 03:33:27 pm »
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It's ridiculous to suggest the Senate GOP is "covering up" anything if they simply try the same case House Democrats passed. Give me a break.

Democrats had their chance. They wrongly thought their case was strong enough and passed it.

They have no one but themselves to blame.
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« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2020, 03:34:34 pm »
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Schiff: Let’s talk Clinton precedent.

Nadler: Enough with the obsession over Clinton precedent.
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2020, 03:35:09 pm »
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Adam Schiff talking about "rigged" process and "hiding the evidence"

Seriously.

As he speaks, SCIF Keeper Schiff is still hiding the transcript of the IG's testimony, and refusing to reveal his collusion with the "whistleblower"
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Democrats keep calling it a "cover-up" if witnesses are denied. So why did they deny the whistleblower to be called as a witness when the House was in control?
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Trial Day 1
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2020, 03:37:39 pm »
January 21, 2020
Cocaine Mitch hands the Democrats a dilemma...
By Monica Showalter

Senator Mitch McConnell released his long-awaited rules for a Senate impeachment trial for President Trump and they stood out for their very un-Adam Schiff-like respect for both sides of the aisle.

Axios summarizes the terms this way:

    Details: Under the resolution, House Democratic managers and Trump's defense team will each be given up to 24 hours over two days to present their cases.

        Senators will then have 16 hours to submit their questions to Chief Justice John Roberts.
        After the Q&A period, the Senate will vote on whether to consider and debate witness subpoenas.
        If the Senate votes no, no one will be permitted to call for new witnesses or documents, according to a Republican leadership aide.
        If the Senate votes yes, both sides will have an opportunity to motion to subpoena witnesses, then senators will debate and vote on them.
        Then the Senate will vote on whether to convict the president and remove him from office.

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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Trial Day 1
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2020, 03:39:19 pm »
Murkowski says she’ll vote against impeachment witnesses Tuesday. That’s not her final answer.
https://www.alaskapublic.org/2020/01/20/murkowski-says-shell-vote-against-impeachment-witnesses-tuesday-thats-not-her-final-answer/
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« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2020, 04:09:17 pm »
Murkowski says she’ll vote against impeachment witnesses Tuesday. That’s not her final answer.

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« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2020, 04:11:51 pm »
Clowns want another circus and are PO'd that Mitch won't give it to them.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Trial Day 1
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2020, 04:25:29 pm »
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Watching smug, arrogant Adam (the pile of) Schiff lecture the Senate about "fairness" after his disgusting abuse of House rules to ramrod IMPEACHMENT! is like having Jeffrey Dahmer lecture about nutrition and healthy eating.
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« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2020, 04:25:55 pm »
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Schumer says he was not consulted about the press restrictions at the Capitol for the impeachment trial
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Trial Day 1
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2020, 04:36:33 pm »
Democrats call White House lawyer a 'fact witness' in impeachment case, demand he disclose 'all facts' to Senate
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/479112-democrats-call-white-house-lawyer-a-fact-witness-in-impeachment-case-demand-he
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« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2020, 05:02:32 pm »
Schumer vows votes to try to 'fix' McConnell impeachment rules

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) vowed that Democrats will force votes on Tuesday to try to change a Republican rules resolution governing the impeachment trial.
 
Schumer, speaking to reporters, said the votes will focus on calling witnesses, compelling documents related to the delayed Ukraine aid and trying to fix the most "egregious departures" and "many flaws" included in the proposed trial rules.
 
The resolution "asks the Senate to sprint through the trial as fast as possible and makes getting evidence as hard as possible. Bottom line: Leader McConnell wants the process as rushed ... [and] in the dark of night," Schumer said.

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Schumer vows votes to try to 'fix' McConnell impeachment rules

Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) vowed that Democrats will force votes on Tuesday to try to change a Republican rules resolution governing the impeachment trial.
 
Schumer, speaking to reporters, said the votes will focus on calling witnesses, compelling documents related to the delayed Ukraine aid and trying to fix the most "egregious departures" and "many flaws" included in the proposed trial rules.
 
The resolution "asks the Senate to sprint through the trial as fast as possible and makes getting evidence as hard as possible. Bottom line: Leader McConnell wants the process as rushed ... [and] in the dark of night," Schumer said.

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« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2020, 05:28:14 pm »
Schumer will force votes 'right off the bat' on impeachment witnesses and documents
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/schumer-will-call-votes-right-off-the-bat-on-witnesses-and-documents
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« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2020, 05:30:48 pm »
Warren vows to create task force to investigate Trump administration 'corruption and incompetence' if elected
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/warren-vows-to-create-task-force-to-investigate-trump-administration-corruption-and-incompetence-if-elected

...and she's an impartial juror... :thud:
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« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2020, 05:42:09 pm »
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Dear Mitt Romney, Lisa Murkowski, and Susan Collins:

DON'T SCREW THIS UP, RINOs!
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« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2020, 05:42:55 pm »
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President Trump was forbidden from having any counsel or representation during the first 71 days of House Democrats’ impeachment process.

So I find any “fairness” or “process” arguments now suddenly coming from Democrats to be absolutely rich.
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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2020, 05:43:06 pm »
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Where was the good Rep. Adam Schiff when Democrats were railroading Trump during the House "Inquiry," refusing to allow him witnesses?
Oh, wait...
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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2020, 05:45:51 pm »
Senate impeachment timetable at a glance

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell plans to seek a speedy impeachment trial of President Donald Trump. In a Senate resolution released Monday evening, McConnell laid out the structure for the trial’s opening phase, with votes on witnesses deferred until next week. The resolution would permit Trump’s lawyers to move early on to acquit the president and sets up a vote next week on calling witnesses such as former national security adviser John Bolton.

How the trial would go under McConnell’s plan:

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IMMEDIATE FIGHT

McConnell’s resolution does not specifically allow for witnesses to testify, and Democrats promise to try to guarantee witnesses, documents and other evidence to be part of the trial. Any debate on these topics must be conducted in closed session under the Senate’s impeachment rules.

INITIAL MOTIONS

After the Senate adopts the organizing resolution, which itself will consume Tuesday, the legal teams for Trump and the House on Wednesday will be able to offer motions on housekeeping questions involving matters other than evidence or witnesses. In theory, Trump could move to dismiss the case altogether, but that’s unlikely.

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OPENING ARGUMENTS

House impeachment managers, led by Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., will have 24 hours — packed into only two days — to make their opening arguments. The White House will have the same amount of time to respond, though Trump’s lawyers may not use it all.

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QUESTION TIME

Sixteen hours will be reserved for senators to ask questions of both legal teams. Those questions will be posed in writing through Chief Justice John Roberts.

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WITNESSES

The key question of whether to call witnesses and which ones to call will be considered with up to four hours of argument by the White House and House Democrats. The Senate may go into closed session to debate further and then have a series of votes. If witnesses are called, they will be deposed before any potential live Senate testimony.

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GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY?

After the Senate finishes its deliberations, it will vote on the two impeachment articles, which requires a two-thirds vote to find Trump guilty and remove him from office. Trump is likely to be found not guilty.

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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2020, 05:47:52 pm »
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The only cover-up happening is Adam Schiff lying about his contacts with the whistleblower

The Senate must get to the bottom of this

Make Adam Schiff testify!
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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2020, 05:48:48 pm »
I've been in law for nearly 30 years, and those rules are both very fair, and very reasonable.  It's basically the format of how a case normally proceeds.  You don't start calling witnesses until the court has determined whether or not there is a genuine issue of material fact for trial.

If a majority of senators believe that a several week delay in sending aid to Ukraine, even if for political gain, is not worthy of removing a President from office, then you don't need witnesses.
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Sen. Chuck Schumer: "The McConnell resolution will result in a rushed trial with little evidence, in the dark of night ... If Leader McConnell is so confident the president did nothing wrong, why don't they want the case to be presented in broad daylight?"
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Schumer on the floor now. Starts his remarks about access for the press. Says “some may not want what happens here to be public.”
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