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Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« on: January 19, 2020, 03:38:28 pm »
Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
By Douglas MacKinnon, opinion contributor — 01/18/20 12:00 PM EST

Since his selection as Donald Trump’s running mate, many people believe that Mike Pence has been mired in the throes of PTSD — in this case, an acronym for “President Trump Stress Disorder.”

That is not to say that the vice president does not strongly support the president. He most certainly does. It’s just that Pence also seems to have a terminal case of whiplash as he snaps his head around time and again to witness the next shoe dropping, about or from the president.

Pence is the poster child of a reserved, traditional, button-down politician. Trump at times appears to consider these traits a weakness, counter to the persona he needs to push to protect his name, policies and legacy against the entrenched elites in the mainstream media and political parties who have sought to take him down since day one.

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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2020, 03:43:26 pm »
Well, I've never trusted Pence. I had never heard of him until Trump selected him.  There's just something about him that just doesn't ring "true".  I'd say he's preparing to assume the presidency.  Absolutely.  I believe that there is a strong possibility that him taking Trump's position has been in the 'works' for quite awhile.
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2020, 03:46:22 pm »
The Dems had to get rid of Agnew before they could get Nixon.

I expect they will try to get rid of Pence, one way or another (find something to chase him out over).

But first things first, they have yet to prove any High Crimes or Misdemeanors.
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2020, 04:28:34 pm »
Why on Earth would Pence resign?
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2020, 04:56:46 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 19, 2020, 04:28:34 pm
Why on Earth would Pence resign?

I think there's a weed collective operating at The Hill. Not all partake, but some are chain-tokers.
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2020, 05:05:43 pm »
Quote from: PeteS in CA on January 19, 2020, 04:56:46 pm
I think there's a weed collective operating at The Hill. Not all partake, but some are chain-tokers.
Likely relatively low in the spectrum of vices there.

They should have to take pre employment and random drug tests. Democrats, daily, because they exhibit such odd and irrational behaviour.
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2020, 06:37:53 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on January 19, 2020, 03:43:26 pm
Well, I've never trusted Pence. I had never heard of him until Trump selected him.

Ron Paul, Pence and Cruz were inarguably the national face of the TEA Party.
Pence runs more libertarian than Cruz, but had a great record, prior to his election as governor of Indiana.

My personal opinion of Pence: He is a solid Conservative, lacking backbone to some degree. The degree of backbone seems to vary depending upon the 'in group' he's in..

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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2020, 06:40:49 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on January 19, 2020, 06:37:53 pm
Ron Paul, Pence and Cruz were inarguably the national face of the TEA Party.
Pence runs more libertarian than Cruz, but had a great record, prior to his election as governor of Indiana.

My personal opinion of Pence: He is a solid Conservative, lacking backbone to some degree. The degree of backbone seems to vary depending upon the 'in group' he's in..

My tends-to-the-left SIL hates Pence more than she does Trump.  "Too Religious."
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2020, 06:50:18 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 19, 2020, 06:40:49 pm
My tends-to-the-left SIL hates Pence more than she does Trump.  "Too Religious."
Pence has avoided the accusations of the honey pot by not going anywhere with a woman other than his wife alone. That bespeaks a degree of wisdom, but really frustrates the crap out of the left. They call him sexist, but they can't trot out some floozy to accuse him of anything.
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2020, 07:01:58 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 19, 2020, 06:40:49 pm
My tends-to-the-left SIL hates Pence more than she does Trump.  "Too Religious."

He is most solidly a social conservative, glowing with fiscal conservative, and his libertarian bent is something a Western man can understand... Which really leaves me in a quandry since his governorship. I do not believe he would have been reelected, largely due to social issues.

Still and all, I would consider it a bright point were he to ascend. And were he to select Cruz as his VP, Conservatives would line up and fight. Including me...

Successfully impeaching and convicting Tump may be the single most stupid thing that Dems could do.
It is probably about the only thing they could do to slam Conservatives back together, and resurrect the TEA Party to national status.
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2020, 07:08:23 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on January 19, 2020, 07:01:58 pm
Successfully impeaching and convicting Tump may be the single most stupid thing that Dems could do.
It is probably about the only thing they could do to slam Conservatives back together, and resurrect the TEA Party to national status.

In spite of McConnell's best efforts.  9999hair out0000
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2020, 07:14:02 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 19, 2020, 07:08:23 pm
In spite of McConnell's best efforts.  9999hair out0000

The moderates need to go. Conservatives in control of the Administration (and the RNC) can make that happen. Like I said, convicting Tump might not go the way they think.

Though no doubt McConnell knows that, and will do all in his power to keep Pence from ascending. That alone pretty much guarantees Tump's acquittal.
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2020, 07:15:27 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on January 19, 2020, 07:14:02 pm
The moderates need to go. Conservatives in control of the Administration (and the RNC) can make that happen. Like I said, convicting Tump might not go the way they think.

Will it ever go in a direction that would encourage you to spell his name correctly?   wink777
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2020, 07:17:21 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 19, 2020, 07:15:27 pm
Will it ever go in a direction that would encourage you to spell his name correctly?   wink777

Not very likely. He IS a Tump... Not many city folk get the joke...
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2020, 07:20:23 pm »
I guess I'm city people....  :shrug:
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2020, 07:21:09 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 19, 2020, 06:40:49 pm
My tends-to-the-left SIL hates Pence more than she does Trump.  "Too Religious."
I recall that he's a devout Christian and elder in his Presbyterian church. Oh, the horror!
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2020, 07:22:13 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on January 19, 2020, 07:21:09 pm
I recall that he's a devout Christian and elder in his Presbyterian church. Oh, the horror!

That's like a crucifix to Dracula, in the leftist view.
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2020, 07:27:20 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 19, 2020, 07:20:23 pm
I guess I'm city people....  :shrug:

Well, technically, a tump is a small mound of dirt... something about the size of a basketball pushed up out of the ground. That's funny enough, right there.

But in redneck parlance, at least in the west, it is the act of accidentally knocking something (small) over. A combination of 'tip' and 'dump' together. you might tump a salt shaker, or tump it over... You might tump your coffee cup causing a slop out onto the counter.

Get it now?
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2020, 07:28:57 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on January 19, 2020, 06:37:53 pm
Ron Paul, Pence and Cruz were inarguably the national face of the TEA Party.
Pence runs more libertarian than Cruz, but had a great record, prior to his election as governor of Indiana.

My personal opinion of Pence: He is a solid Conservative, lacking backbone to some degree. The degree of backbone seems to vary depending upon the 'in group' he's in..

The last thing the GOP needs is to have someone in the Presidency who lacks backbone.   That is a positive quality of this President; he has a spine!
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2020, 07:29:41 pm »
    It's Trump's GOP now.  Besides the GOP has given nothing but crumbs to Conservatives since Reagan.
    At least we are witnessing the continuation of the dems imploding.
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2020, 07:30:41 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on January 19, 2020, 07:28:57 pm
The last thing the GOP needs is to have someone in the Presidency who lacks backbone.   That is a positive quality of this President; he has a spine!

I will take character over backbone any day.
Backbone means nothing at all if it ain't aligned in the right direction.
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2020, 07:31:06 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 19, 2020, 07:20:23 pm
I guess I'm city people....  :shrug:

Oddly, I would think most 'city people' would find it utterly hilarious.
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2020, 07:39:02 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on January 19, 2020, 07:27:20 pm
Well, technically, a tump is a small mound of dirt... something about the size of a basketball pushed up out of the ground. That's funny enough, right there.

But in redneck parlance, at least in the west, it is the act of accidentally knocking something (small) over. A combination of 'tip' and 'dump' together. you might tump a salt shaker, or tump it over... You might tump your coffee cup causing a slop out onto the counter.

Get it now?

Yes, thanks!
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2020, 07:45:00 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on January 19, 2020, 07:30:41 pm
I will take character over backbone any day.
Backbone means nothing at all if it ain't aligned in the right direction.

One's character means absolutely nothing if they cannot stand behind their character.
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Re: Is Mike Pence preparing to resign, assume the presidency, or both?
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2020, 07:47:12 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on January 19, 2020, 07:45:00 pm
One's character means absolutely nothing if they cannot stand behind their character.

More of a chance than one without character. At least he knows what's right.
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