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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3150 on: March 23, 2020, 10:41:53 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 23, 2020, 10:26:30 pm
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I'm a governor. Isn't it horrendous 35k die a year of car accidents? I declare a complete suspension of car traffic. If we can save just one life. #Orwell #ChinaVirus

But when a first responder goes to the scene of a car accident, he or she isn’t in danger of getting into (contracting) a car accident due to exposure, the doctors and nurses who treat the victims of car accidents are not in danger of getting into (contracting) a car accident due to exposure. Patients in the hospital for other reasons are not in danger of getting into (contracting) a car accident due to exposure.

Stupid comparison.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3151 on: March 23, 2020, 10:48:33 pm »
Quote from: Neverdul on March 23, 2020, 10:41:53 pm
But when a first responder goes to the scene of a car accident, he or she isn’t in danger of getting into (contracting) a car accident due to exposure, the doctors and nurses who treat the victims of car accidents are not in danger of getting into (contracting) a car accident due to exposure. Patients in the hospital for other reasons are not in danger of getting into (contracting) a car accident due to exposure.

Stupid comparison.

Not stupid at all. 

He's highlighting how the same reasoning for shutting down the entire country over what it in reality a handful of deaths from Chinese Corona Virus could be applied to other forms of what anyone could turn into a crisis with the same reasoning being used now.

Car accidents obesity gun deaths...the list goes on.

Using the guise of a "pandemic" to do what we see going on now is the proverbial camel's nose under the tent flap for what Liberals can and will do in the future in order to "save just one life".
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3152 on: March 23, 2020, 10:51:31 pm »
Quote from: Neverdul on March 23, 2020, 10:41:53 pm
But when a first responder goes to the scene of a car accident, he or she isn’t in danger of getting into (contracting) a car accident due to exposure, the doctors and nurses who treat the victims of car accidents are not in danger of getting into (contracting) a car accident due to exposure. Patients in the hospital for other reasons are not in danger of getting into (contracting) a car accident due to exposure.

Stupid comparison.

It appears most people do okay when infected with this but some people do very badly regardless of age or health. It is the not knowing which outcome will happen to you that drives the larger problem. There are now lots of stories about young healthy people being put into ICU or worse by this.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3153 on: March 23, 2020, 10:56:44 pm »
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It appears most people do okay when infected with this but some people do very badly regardless of age or health. It is the not knowing which outcome will happen to you that drives the larger problem. There are now lots of stories about young healthy people being put into ICU or worse by this.

Are you watching the administration briefing right now? They just explicitly said young people, or people under 50, have very little to worry about with this virus.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3154 on: March 23, 2020, 10:57:05 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 23, 2020, 10:48:33 pm
Not stupid at all. 

He's highlighting how the same reasoning for shutting down the entire country over what it in reality a handful of deaths from Chinese Corona Virus could be applied to other forms of what anyone could turn into a crisis with the same reasoning being used now.

Car accidents obesity gun deaths...the list goes on.

Using the guise of a "pandemic" to do what we see going on now is the proverbial camel's nose under the tent flap for what Liberals can and will do in the future in order to "save just one life".

We must never forget:  Never let a crisis go to waste.  I'm Mr. Broken Record today.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3155 on: March 23, 2020, 11:04:11 pm »
Quote from: DB on March 23, 2020, 10:51:31 pm
It appears most people do okay when infected with this but some people do very badly regardless of age or health. It is the not knowing which outcome will happen to you that drives the larger problem. There are now lots of stories about young healthy people being put into ICU or worse by this.

The thing is, is because this is a novel virus, no one has any immunity. Even if one doesn’t become severely or deadly ill, they can still be too sick to work for a week or more. Now if a significant number of those too sick to work or having to quarantine are first responders and doctors and nurses, that is a serious problem.

The other key point, specifically when it comes to comparing COVID-19 to influenza is that most if not all healthcare workers get influenza vaccinations and while not perfect, afford some measure of protection in addition to those who have immunity from prior exposure to similar influenza strains.  We also have proven treatments for influenza.  We do not yet have a COVID-19 vaccination.

And while some like to compare the deaths and serious illnesses (so far) from COVID-19 to other causes of death, remember this is on top of those.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3156 on: March 23, 2020, 11:18:36 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on March 23, 2020, 10:56:44 pm
Are you watching the administration briefing right now? They just explicitly said young people, or people under 50, have very little to worry about with this virus.

I don't know what to tell you. There news report that I read today that something like 40% of the people in ICU in New York are less than 44 or something not too far from that (I don't remember exactly).
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3157 on: March 23, 2020, 11:19:47 pm »
Quote from: Neverdul on March 23, 2020, 11:04:11 pm
The thing is, is because this is a novel virus, no one has any immunity. Even if one doesn’t become severely or deadly ill, they can still be too sick to work for a week or more. Now if a significant number of those too sick to work or having to quarantine are first responders and doctors and nurses, that is a serious problem.

The other key point, specifically when it comes to comparing COVID-19 to influenza is that most if not all healthcare workers get influenza vaccinations and while not perfect, afford some measure of protection in addition to those who have immunity from prior exposure to similar influenza strains.  We also have proven treatments for influenza.  We do not yet have a COVID-19 vaccination.

And while some like to compare the deaths and serious illnesses (so far) from COVID-19 to other causes of death, remember this is on top of those.

Just to be clear, I wasn't arguing against your point at all. Same goes to police departments etc.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3158 on: March 23, 2020, 11:19:59 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 23, 2020, 10:57:05 pm
We must never forget:  Never let a crisis go to waste.  I'm Mr. Broken Record today.

I know the feeling.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3159 on: March 23, 2020, 11:22:30 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on March 23, 2020, 10:56:44 pm
Are you watching the administration briefing right now? They just explicitly said young people, or people under 50, have very little to worry about with this virus.

Okay, I found one story. I didn't get it quite right.

"Nearly one-third of confirmed cases in the U.S., and 20% of those hospitalized, were between the ages 20 and 44, according to CDC data released last week."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-florida-spring-break-test-positive-covid-19-college-students-not-social-distancing-university-of-tampa/
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3160 on: March 23, 2020, 11:26:32 pm »
Kevin McCarthy was on Mark Levin's show saying one of the nasty tricks Pelosi is trying to pull in her new bill is a reduction in the ICE budget.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3161 on: March 23, 2020, 11:29:24 pm »
Phill Graham once prophesied that we would wind up hunting Democrats with dogs.  He may yet be proven right.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3162 on: March 23, 2020, 11:30:17 pm »
   Trump is kicking Ass in this Briefing.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3163 on: March 23, 2020, 11:49:02 pm »
Quote from: DB on March 23, 2020, 11:22:30 pm
Okay, I found one story. I didn't get it quite right.

"Nearly one-third of confirmed cases in the U.S., and 20% of those hospitalized, were between the ages 20 and 44, according to CDC data released last week."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/coronavirus-florida-spring-break-test-positive-covid-19-college-students-not-social-distancing-university-of-tampa/

...and younger people have a much better rate of surviving the ICU, once hospitalized.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3164 on: March 23, 2020, 11:49:52 pm »
Quote from: Bigun on March 23, 2020, 11:29:24 pm
Phill Graham once prophesied that we would wind up hunting Democrats with dogs.  He may yet be proven right.

Where can I sign up for one?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3165 on: March 24, 2020, 12:00:49 am »
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3166 on: March 24, 2020, 12:14:01 am »
Just a thought, don't mean nuthin', but...

... isn't it about time to close off this thread, and open up a fresh one?
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3167 on: March 24, 2020, 12:16:26 am »
Quote from: skeeter on March 23, 2020, 10:56:44 pm
Are you watching the administration briefing right now? They just explicitly said young people, or people under 50, have very little to worry about with this virus.

If this never pans out, it does sound farfetched. But I'd hate to learn later it's true.

Chinese Scientists Raise Concerns Over Potential Link Between Coronavirus and Male Fertility
https://www.newsweek.com/chinese-scientists-coronavirus-male-fertility-1488235
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3168 on: March 24, 2020, 12:34:19 am »
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Where can I sign up for one?

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3169 on: March 24, 2020, 12:51:52 am »
Quote from: skeeter on March 23, 2020, 10:56:44 pm
Are you watching the administration briefing right now? They just explicitly said young people, or people under 50, have very little to worry about with this virus.
Well, that's not true.

It may not kill anyone under 40, but it's still a pretty nasty infection. And given that the younger ones are more likely to travel and congregate in large crowds, they're spreading the disease faster.

The good news? It skews the death rate down.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3170 on: March 24, 2020, 12:56:28 am »
Quote from: jmyrlefuller on March 24, 2020, 12:51:52 am
Well, that's not true.

It may not kill anyone under 40, but it's still a pretty nasty infection. And given that the younger ones are more likely to travel and congregate in large crowds, they're spreading the disease faster.


That was Dr Birx point - the worst 99.98% of infected in reasonably good health under 60 only have to worry about is a 'nasty infection', not death or even a night in the ICU, which is what I suspect a large percentage of the population think right now.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3171 on: March 24, 2020, 01:17:34 am »
Progressive Twitter Troll: Blah blah blah Corona Virus is Trump's fault! 

Me: replies with factual information 

PTT: ORANGE MAN BAD! 

Me: More factual information to refute Lib talking points 

PTT: "This member limits who can see their tweets"
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« Reply #3172 on: March 24, 2020, 01:21:28 am »


            I love this woman, Cruz/Birx 2024.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3173 on: March 24, 2020, 01:36:55 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on March 23, 2020, 08:26:43 pm
Ain't nobody watched Boy in the Bubble? Put them quarantined Senators in a portable quarantine and park their fat asses on the floor.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #3174 on: March 24, 2020, 01:43:43 am »
Quote from: Once-Ler on March 23, 2020, 06:26:31 pm
Thanks for the post @DB it is nice to know Senator Paul inflicted the virus upon countless because of his he knew he should have been tested anyways.  What a guy. 888heartkitty
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