Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion

[Cyber Liberty]

If the schools had to refund the tuition, I bet they'd be holding classes.

Insurance claim?

[Smokin Joe]

Insurance claim?

They'd weasel out on a Farce Majeure clause

[truth_seeker]

One word:  Amazon.

My wife jokes, about people with their faces in front of smartphones. A few years ago, on our way to the movies, she noticed a party of 4 young people in a booth, all staring into their phones, not at their companions.

I joke about people that text, rather than talk on the phone. It is as if with them texting, they maintain control of time, and perhaps ccontent, too.

Older folks, that survived Depression, Wartime ((including rationing) are less bewildered, about the prospect of any hardship.

'how will we survive, without our bottled water and TP, to ward off the evil disease?'

and 'won't it be solved by the late night news?'

I suggest name this the "Election Year Virus"

[TomSea]

Patient in Georgia:

Man battling coronavirus explains what it’s like, says “I ain’t never felt this bad”
written by Paul Goldberg March 12, 2020



ABC reports a man in Rome, Georgia, said he was initially sent home after he went to the hospital with flu-like symptoms and later tested positive for coronavirus.

Clay Bentley told ABC News on Wednesday that on March 1 he sang in the more-than-100-member choir at the Church at Liberty Square in Cartersville, Georgia.

Bentley said he went home after church and woke up Monday morning, feeling so sick he went to urgent care in Rome, Georgia. When they checked his vitals, he said, his oxygen levels were really low and he was sent to a hospital.

“I was so weak that I couldn’t even stand up,” he told ABC News.

More:  https://newsthud.com/man-battling-coronavirus-explains-what-its-like-says-i-aint-never-felt-this-bad/

[truth_seeker]

I client and friend of mine, she's Asian of appearance from Indonesia, very disappointedly posted on FB, how somebody gave her some racist BS  I believe somebody told her she should weart a mask, .

She is a medical technical pro. The type that risk people's body fluids, contact daily.

Not surprised  those guys in SG Valley are getting armed. SGValley has been highly Asian for decades, I believe in particular, Taiwanese.

[TomSea]

The Hill reports federally funded tests conducted by scientists from several major institutions indicated that the novel form of coronavirus behind a worldwide outbreak can survive in the air for several hours.

https://newsthud.com/report-tests-indicate-coronavirus-can-survive-in-the-air-and-surfaces/

Can go airborne, that's why I'd think places like a bus, Greyhound or whatever, could be problematic.

[Hoodat]

Know someone whose daughter is in Wuhan.  After four weeks in solitary, the US State Dept finally contacted her.

[240B]

Can go airborne

Boy that clicked a trigger
AIRBORNE!!
C130 rolling down the strip
18 men on a one way trip...

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Maybe he believed it was a hoax for some reason.

[TomSea]

Your Phone Is a Cesspool of Germs. Here's How to Actually Clean It
Bleach is a terrible idea. Try out these tips, instead.
By Courtney Linder   Mar 9, 2020

As the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) continues to dole out advice for lowering your risk of catching the Coronavirus, you're probably washing your hands a little longer and touching your face a little less. But there's another easy step you can take to stay protected—and if you're anything like us, you rarely consider it.

Your smartphone, as it turns out, is covered with 10 times the amount of bacteria found on a toilet seat, says a study from the University of Arizona. Sounds shocking, but it makes sense: Janitors scrub toilets every day. When's the last time you really wiped down your iPhone? Never?

Now that you know the dirty truth, it's time to take action. Your first instinct might be to use a Clorox wipe, which promises to kill 99.99 percent of household germs and bacteria. But that wouldn't be wise: This kind of wipe could actually damage the delicate oleophobic coating on your phone that's meant to prevent oils from your fingerprints sticking to the surface.

Read more at: https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/health/a31224352/how-clean-phone-guide/

I saw someone earlier say the real crisis here, could be bankruptcies. So, we will have to see how this goes.

[TomSea]

I'm glad the $3,000 test is a MYTH, I did seem to see that briefly stated.

Myth or fact: We dispel the rumors surrounding the coronavirus
Sarah Kay LeBlanc, Des Moines Register

...

Does a coronavirus test cost $3,000?

No, it's free. FactCheck.org reported that a claim that a test for COVID-19 costs patients in the U.S. more than $3,000 originated on Twitter, where it amassed more than 250,000 likes and retweets. It became a meme that spread on Facebook.

In actuality, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration has authorized the use of two tests — one from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and one from the New York State Department of Public Health — and neither agency charges patients for the test, according to FactCheck.org.

Read more at: https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/health-news/myth-or-fact-we-dispel-the-rumors-surrounding-the-coronavirus/ar-BB10XBTd

Lots of good info at link.

[TomSea]

Strategic Partnership With China Lies at Root of Iran’s Coronavirus Outbreak
Pathogen spread rapidly from Qom, where Chinese-backed projects helped prop up nation’s sanctions-hit economy
By Benoit Faucon,

Iranian officials trace the origins of the country’s coronavirus epidemic to the holy city of Qom, home to dozens of seminaries and religious shrines—but also a number of Chinese-backed infrastructure projects built by scores of workers and technicians from China.

This critical link to China, centered in Qom, has helped keep Iran’s  economy alive in the face of American sanctions. And it is now being stress-tested by the coronavirus. The exact route of the virus is unclear. But Iran’s strategic partnership with Beijing has...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/irans-strategic-partnership-with-china-lies-at-root-of-its-coronavirus-outbreak-11583940683

Belt and Road initiative, article has a paywall but some vital info is up there, China is building all of these projects and apparently, this helped it spread into Iran.

[TomSea]

IDP, Internally Displaced Persons, camps in Syria, if the coronavirus got out, it'd be a problem.

Sara Firth
@Sara__Firth
First suspected cases of COVID-19 in an IDP camp in #Iraq.

Overpopulation and cramped conditions mean displacement camps will be extremely challenging places to prevent the spread of the virus.

https://twitter.com/Sara__Firth/status/1238028269934559234

[jmyrlefuller]

A chart showing the progression/spread of the virus. (credit: Josué Ortega Caro on Twitter)

Some things to note:
- Even the worst cases, per capita infection rates have not progressed beyond 0.1%. On the whole, even in the worst places, the chances of any individual person getting this are still quite low.
- This, of course, is cumulative: once a number is added, it's not taken away when they recover.

[Just_Victor]

A chart showing the progression/spread of the virus. (credit: Josué Ortega Caro on Twitter)

Some things to note:
- Even the worst cases, per capita infection rates have not progressed beyond 0.1%. On the whole, even in the worst places, the chances of any individual person getting this are still quite low.
- This, of course, is cumulative: once a number is added, it's not taken away when they recover.

Why didn't they include China in their data?

[bigheadfred]

Why didn't they include China in their data?

They did. Or tried to. But compared to the rest of the world their numbers are off the chart.

[jmyrlefuller]

Why didn't they include China in their data?

I don't know. I do know that in Wuhan the case load has leveled off at 50,000 in a city of 11,000,000. The province as a whole has a little under 60,000,000.

There's a lot of fear being fomented about this virus that, quite frankly, I don't think is warranted—and all this cancelling classes and sporting events, the things that we use to take our minds off this stuff, is only going to make that fear worse. We're trading a physical illness for mental illness.

[Just_Victor]

They did. Or tried to. But compared to the rest of the world their numbers are off the chart.

The data would extend way off to the right since China is a month or more past 1/capita, but they could still truncate that info to compare the trend.  I can't help but wonder if their numbers are much higher due to the early part of the infection being prior to the disease even being identified.  Or maybe they don't trust the data coming out of the Chicom government.

Still, it seems odd to exclude it entirely.

[Polly Ticks]

There's a lot of fear being fomented about this virus that, quite frankly, I don't think is warranted—and all this cancelling classes and sporting events, the things that we use to take our minds off this stuff, is only going to make that fear worse. We're trading a physical illness for mental illness.

Not to mention how politicized it all has become. 

Our idiot governor of Kentucky is asking churches to cancel services this weekend while leaving schools open for business.  How does that make any sense?  People in churches tend to sit in their pews and mind their own business, while schools are full of little disease-vectors who regularly bring all manner of viruses home to their families. 

[Sighlass]

Not to mention how politicized it all has become. 

Our idiot governor of Kentucky is asking churches to cancel services this weekend while leaving schools open for business.  How does that make any sense?  People in churches tend to sit in their pews and mind their own business, while schools are full of little disease-vectors who regularly bring all manner of viruses home to their families. 

Rome GA has a choir of folks in the hospital now.

[catfish1957]

Not to mention how politicized it all has become. 

Our idiot governor of Kentucky is asking churches to cancel services this weekend while leaving schools open for business.  How does that make any sense?  People in churches tend to sit in their pews and mind their own business, while schools are full of little disease-vectors who regularly bring all manner of viruses home to their families.

And again....   As far as I know.....  NO ONE, under the age of 50 has died of this thing.  Yes, we the elderly need to take precautions, but is it worth the damage being done to our economy?.  The hysteria for this has been manufactured by the MSM to destroy Trump.  These are depicable bastards.

[Gefn]

Coronavirus Can Live in Patients for Five Weeks After Contagion

Patients with the new coronavirus keep the pathogen in their respiratory tract for as long as 37 days, a new study found, suggesting they could remain infectious for many weeks.

In yet another sign of how difficult the pandemic may be to contain, doctors in China detected the virus’s RNA in respiratory samples from survivors for a median of 20 days after they became infected, they wrote in an article published in the Lancet medical journal.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-12/coronavirus-can-live-in-patients-for-five-weeks-after-contagion?srnd=premium

[TomSea]

And again....   As far as I know.....  NO ONE, under the age of 50 has died of this thing.  Yes, we the elderly need to take precautions, but is it worth the damage being done to our economy?.  The hysteria for this has been manufactured by the MSM to destroy Trump.  These are depicable bastards.

I believe the whistle blower Chinese doctor who died was in his 30s.

[catfish1957]

I believe the whistle blower Chinese doctor who died was in his 30s.

LOL...   What do you think the Chicoms do with whistleblowers?  I beleive that about as much as I beleive in the tooth fairy.

[Idiot]

LOL...   What do you think the Chicoms do with whistleblowers?  I beleive that about as much as I beleive in the tooth fairy.

LOLOLOLOL....was thinking the same thing.