Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion

[GrouchoTex]

Besides the Houston Livestock show and Rodeo closing (which is HUGE and SERIES), St Thomas Episcopal school closed for 2 weeks, as there is a possibility that one of it's students has been exposed to the Corona virus.

In all seriousness, though. closing the rodeo after it has already been running is a big deal.

[catfish1957]

I don't believe the word pandemic has anything to do with the fatality rate.

Epidemiologist use the term Mortality Rate.  Basically deaths divided by cases.  A Pandemic is a term to describe a disease (viral or bacteriological) that is wide-spread, generally globally.  Heck, that could apply to a common cold as well as Black Plague.

You are right though.  When most of the population hears that word they go bat shit crazy.  Visions of 1340's Europe and 1918 immedately come to their mind.

[Smokin Joe]

Many Americans aren’t panicking over coronavirus. They’re panicking over others panicking.

How much toilet paper does it take to stave off the coronavirus?

by Carl Durrek  March 11, 2020

Stocks plummeting. Events canceled. Toilet paper flying off the shelves. It’s the type of panic one might expect from a Hollywood production about a disease ravaging the world and leaving millions dead in its wake. The problem is, the coronavirus isn’t that disease. Compared to Hollywood visions, it’s minuscule. Compared the death toll of the flu. it’s barely existent.

With this known by many and becoming known by more, why can’t I buy toilet paper without waiting in a long line of other people waiting to buy toilet paper? I didn’t know, so I started asking. Unlike everyone else, I was actually out of toilet paper. But the rest of the people I talked to in line had toilet paper. They just wanted more.

Some said they wanted to get the essentials before there was a quarantine. I didn’t try to dissuade them or share the facts about the coronavirus which are, frankly, unimpressive from a mass extinction perspective. But the majority of people I asked said they weren’t concerned about the coronavirus or quarantines, but were more worried about other people worrying about the coronavirus or quarantines. Looking up and down the line, I realized they had a valid point.

<..snip..>

https://noqreport.com/2020/03/11/many-americans-arent-panicking-over-coronavirus-theyre-panicking-over-others-panicking/

"We have nothing to fear but fear itself...."

Well, almost nothing.

[TomSea]

Kevin McCarthy
@GOPLeader
Democrats are trying to keep President Trump—or any future president—from being able to swiftly issue travel restrictions in the face of health threats like coronavirus.

And the worst part is they're trying to sneak it into a totally unrelated bill, just to restrict debate.

https://twitter.com/GOPLeader/status/1237795041562767360

Read Version, ITALY:

ICUs 'should stop treating elderly if coronavirus outbreak worsens'
Chris Pleasance

The death toll from the coronavirus outbreak in Italy has jumped in the last 24 hours by 196 to 827 as a top Italian doctor said intensive care wards should place an age limit on beds.

Rather than admit patients on a 'first come first served' basis, hospitals should swap to 'catastrophe medicine' guidelines - typically used in war zones and during natural disasters - where those with the greatest chance of survival are given priority.

The guidelines should apply to all patients needing intensive care treatment and not just those suffering from coronavrius, according to guidance published this week by the Society of Anesthesia, Analgesia, Resuscitation and Intensive Care (SAARI).

More: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8101135/Intensive-care-units-stop-treating-elderly-coronavirus-outbreak-worsens.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

[DB]

Read Version, ITALY:

Hmmm.... That's pretty ugly...

[musiclady]

That map appears to be out of date.  The following link from John Hopkins is continuously updated:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Florida has had 28 confirmed cases with 2 deaths.

That Johns Hopkins link is the best thing I've seen.

Thanks for linking it. @thackney . 

[musiclady]

Besides the Houston Livestock show and Rodeo closing (which is HUGE and SERIES), St Thomas Episcopal school closed for 2 weeks, as there is a possibility that one of it's students has been exposed to the Corona virus.

In all seriousness, though. closing the rodeo after it has already been running is a big deal.

All the Maple Festivals in Ohio have been cancelled by the ODNR.

That's a pretty big deal too.

[thackney]

Besides the Houston Livestock show and Rodeo closing (which is HUGE and SERIES), St Thomas Episcopal school closed for 2 weeks, as there is a possibility that one of it's students has been exposed to the Corona virus.

In all seriousness, though. closing the rodeo after it has already been running is a big deal.

Houston Rodeo canceled amid growing concerns over coronavirus
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,394734.msg2166098.html#msg2166098

[corbe]

   I'm pretty sure that Fiesta ~ San Antonio (largest yearly festival) is about to be cancelled.

[mountaineer]

   I'm pretty sure that Fiesta ~ San Antonio (largest yearly festival) is about to be cancelled.

Several cities have cancelled St. Patrick's Day parades, which means only that large groups people will be gathering earlier in the day than usual in close, confined spaces - breathing, sneezing and coughing on one another -  to drink vast quantities of beer. That should solve the problem!

[berdie]

It appears that this virus is highly contagious. So I don't have a problem with events being cancelled to try to contain it. I think it a wise move until more can be determined.

[berdie]

Several cities have cancelled St. Patrick's Day parades, which means only that large groups people will be gathering earlier in the day than usual in close, confined spaces - breathing, sneezing and coughing on one another -  to drink vast quantities of beer. That should solve the problem!

I'm gonna check in on the value of green beer in these circumstances.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Republicans under quarantine for coronavirus so far:

* Ted Cruz
* Paul Gosar
* Doug Collins
* Matt Gaetz
* Mark Meadows

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/senior-republicans-quarantine-coronavirus-200310094312225.html
Five senior Republicans in self-quarantine over coronavirus

it's al jazeera so it's probably just fake news.

[mountaineer]

I'm gonna check in on the value of green beer in these circumstances.

I still plan to pick up a 12-pack of Corona next time I'm at the store, just because I can.

[TomSea]

Side story and interesting because most of us know who Jim Baker, the televangelist is and... we also discussed colloidal silver I believe earlier in this thread:

Missouri is suing a televangelist who falsely suggested on his show that colloidal silver could cure coronavirus patients
Michelle Mark


Missouri's attorney general sued the televangelist Jim Bakker over his show's false claims that colloidal silver could cure COVID-19.

The state of Missouri has sued the televangelist Jim Bakker over his show's false claims that colloidal silver could cure the novel coronavirus.

The US Food and Drug Administration has made clear there are currently no substances, products, drugs, or vaccines that can cure, treat, or prevent COVID-19.

Furthermore, there are no credible scientific studies backing up claims that colloidal silver has health benefits. In fact, the substance can cause potentially serious side effects.


More at: https://www.insider.com/missouri-sues-televangelist-jim-bakker-false-coronavirus-cure-colloidal-silver-2020-3

So, it's up to each of us to decide.

I heard on the radio the other day that watch out with kidney failure over colloidal silver, maybe one would have to use a lot of it for that to happen.

I had some of this colloidal silver a few years ago, got it at the health store.

[GrouchoTex]

I still plan to pick up a 12-pack of Corona next time I'm at the store, just because I can.

I picked up a six pack of Corona last week, hoping it was on sale.


It wasn't.

Nonetheless, 

[Neverdul]

Epidemiologist use the term Mortality Rate.  Basically deaths divided by cases.  A Pandemic is a term to describe a disease (viral or bacteriological) that is wide-spread, generally globally.  Heck, that could apply to a common cold as well as Black Plague.

You are right though.  When most of the population hears that word they go bat shit crazy.  Visions of 1340's Europe and 1918 immedately come to their mind.

What is a pandemic?

Declaring a pandemic has nothing to do with changes to the characteristics of a disease, but is instead associated with concerns over its geographic spread. According to the World Health Organization, a pandemic is declared when a new disease for which people do not have immunity spreads around the world beyond expectations.

How does the WHO decide whether to call it a pandemic?

Cases that involve travellers who have been infected in a foreign country and have then returned to their home country, or who have been infected by that traveller, known as the “index case”, do not count towards declaring a pandemic. There needs to be a second wave of infection from person to person throughout the community.

Once a pandemic is declared, it becomes more likely that community spread will eventually happen, and governments and health systems need to ensure they are prepared for that.

An epidemic, on the other hand, is a sudden increase in cases of an illness or disease that can be unique to one country or community.

[240B]

I TPed the tree in my yard, as a scarecrow.
Put toilet paper all over my door including the handle.
Feeling safe. Coronavirus will never come round here.

[mountaineer]

I TPed the tree in my yard, as a scarecrow.
Put toilet paper all over my door including the handle.
Feeling safe. Coronavirus will never come round here.

Well done.

[Hoodat]

During a Wal-mart stop today, I decided to check out their iso-propanol supply.  The entire shelf was empty.  But they had plenty of bleach.

[bigheadfred]

People should be buying tampons instead of TP. More effective to stop their shit for brains leaking out their ears. The TP epidemic has hit here hard.

Just for fun.

https://www.who.int/influenza/surveillance_monitoring/updates/latest_update_GIP_surveillance/en/

Influenza update - 362

Summary

    In the temperate zone of the northern hemisphere, respiratory illness indicators and influenza activity remained elevated overall.
        In North America, influenza activity remained elevated influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 and B viruses co-circulating.
        In Europe, influenza activity continued to increase across the region but appeared to have peaked in some countries.
        In Central Asia, influenza activity decreased with detections of all seasonal influenza subtypes.
        In Northern Africa, influenza activity continued to increase in Algeria and Tunisia, with detections of influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 and B viruses.
        In Western Asia, influenza activity remained elevated overall, though in some countries activity returned to low levels.
        In East Asia, influenza-like illness (ILI) and influenza activity appeared to decrease overall.
    In the Caribbean and Central American countries, influenza activity was low across reporting countries with some exceptions. In Mexico, influenza activity appeared to decrease, with influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 viruses most frequently detected. In tropical South American countries, influenza activity remained low.
    In tropical Africa, influenza detections were low across reporting countries.
    In Southern Asia, influenza activity was low overall, though remained elevated in Afghanistan.
    In South East Asia, influenza activity continued to be reported in some countries.
    In the temperate zones of the southern hemisphere, influenza activity remained at inter-seasonal levels.
    Worldwide, seasonal influenza A viruses accounted for the majority of detections.

[bigheadfred]

hahaha

Who Was The Man Who Took US Hostages, Established Hezbollah And Died Of Coronavirus

https://en.radiofarda.com/a/who-was-the-man-who-took-us-hostages-established-hezbollah-and-died-of-coronavirus/30474758.html

[catfish1957]

People should be buying tampons instead of TP. More effective to stop their shit for brains leaking out their ears. The TP epidemic has hit here hard.

And the score at half time sports fans-


Influenza 8,200. Coronavirus 29

[musiclady]

Several cities have cancelled St. Patrick's Day parades, which means only that large groups people will be gathering earlier in the day than usual in close, confined spaces - breathing, sneezing and coughing on one another -  to drink vast quantities of beer. That should solve the problem!

Ah yes! Those unintended consequences of over reactive fear.

Just like not thinking about what the OSU students will do in their free time while classes are cancelled.  They would have been far safer in class on campus than the partying they’ll be doing in their absence.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

[mountaineer]

Ah yes! Those unintended consequences of over reactive fear.

Just like not thinking about what the OSU students will do in their free time while classes are cancelled.  They would have been far safer in class on campus than the partying they’ll be doing in their absence.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

My sister is a clarinet instructor at a local college. Yep, classes cancelled - online only. She wonders how she's supposed to sand her students' reeds via Skype.