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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #125 on: January 11, 2020, 09:47:44 pm »
There are many things that we as individuals can do to combat cancer and various different ailments that don't include prescribed drugs. Everyone's body reacts differently and we each have to find what works for us.  Each of us has their own relationship with God and that is sacred between the individual and God.  God may select some to survive cancer and others not so much.  God selects some to have diabetes, high blood pressure, arthritis, blindness, etc., each of us has to deal with it in our own way.  I believe it is how we deal with our afflictions and our relationship with God in how we are judged.  That's a conversation though that is getting completely off topic.

There are a lot of things that Trump could have done and there are lots of things that Congress has tied has hands at.  Interesting when he tries to force his hand as POTUS he is criticized and if he doesn't do something he is criticized.  It's a no win for him in the eyes of some.

IMHO this Republic has a slight glimmer of hope of surviving the next 4 years under President Trump.  I see very little if any hope of this Republic surviving if one of the radical leftists is seated in the White House.  We are beyond the point of trying to unseat those that are less than conservative and fill their seats with a more conservative candidate.  That shipped sailed a long time ago.  I'll select the guy who is at least going to give us a glimmer of hope of surviving.

Peace.

I don't believe that God chooses sickness for anyone.  He allowed the Devil to inflict sickness on Job.  Most sickness is a result of our own sin and unhealthy lifestyles.  But the result of sickness may be drawing closer to God.  And that does serve Gods purpose. 

I get what you are saying about being worried about the liberal candidates.  I worry about that also.  But I can't vote for Trump.  I think he is evil in a different way.  I would rather suffer socialism until people realize that free isn't free than to vote for the type of evil I believe Trump is.  Yes, evil.  Strong word I know.  But I don't believe that Trump is honest.  I don't think we can believe a thing he says.  He is made of dictatorship type personality.  Not going to go there.

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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #126 on: January 11, 2020, 10:12:15 pm »
I don't believe that God chooses sickness for anyone.  He allowed the Devil to inflict sickness on Job.  Most sickness is a result of our own sin and unhealthy lifestyles.  But the result of sickness may be drawing closer to God.  And that does serve Gods purpose. 

I get what you are saying about being worried about the liberal candidates.  I worry about that also.  But I can't vote for Trump.  I think he is evil in a different way.  I would rather suffer socialism until people realize that free isn't free than to vote for the type of evil I believe Trump is.  Yes, evil.  Strong word I know.  But I don't believe that Trump is honest.  I don't think we can believe a thing he says.  He is made of dictatorship type personality.  Not going to go there.

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Scatter brained kook TDS bullshit.

"I would rather suffer socialism"



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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #127 on: January 11, 2020, 10:20:49 pm »
Scatter brained kook TDS bullshit.

"I would rather suffer socialism"

I can understand you thinking that.  I can't believe I said it.  But I don't think socialism would last long in a country that enjoys freedom now. They have been indoctrinating our children to accept it.  I remember a guy I worked with who thought he was going to get free healthcare through Obama care.  What a slap in the face that was when he went onto the marketplace and he found out he was going to lose something like $300.00 to $400.00 a month or pay a fine at tax time.  He changed his tune quickly.  Couldn't believe that on his measly salary they thought he could pay that.

So what I am saying is that it is coming.  They have been indoctrinating kids in public education for years to accept Socialism.  But once they have to pay for it they will be screaming.  It won't last.  That is when we will be ready for a real Constitutional Conservative.  The sooner the better.  Because we don't need Ivanka Trumps paid family leave.  Or to pay for other people's child care.

Is Paid Parental Leave ‘Another Step Towards Socialism’?
Ian Smith January 9, 2020 Pay & Benefits Comments (66)

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“This program, being another step towards socialism, adds an estimated $3.3 billion dollars to a $4.4 trillion dollar budget with a deficit of $960 billion. Obviously, we cannot afford this. Private sector businesses will first be told to pay for this, through taxes, and then be forced to compete against it, for employees,” wrote Kentucky State Senator John Schickel (R-Union).

He noted in the article that the parental leave benefit received little coverage from the general media, and that it was tucked inside of the defense funding bill. Schickel also questioned the wisdom of putting unrelated bills into broader spending bills.

“What does family leave have to do with national defense? You would think this would be common sense. These dysfunctional procedures are a big problem and should be addressed immediately,” wrote Schickel.

When he questioned Washington lawmakers as to why they had not voted against the bill, he said he was told that they would be seen as “not supportive of the troops” since it involved the military, and with regard to the parental leave provision, “they would be perceived as being ‘against families,’ too.”

https://www.fedsmith.com/2020/01/09/paid-parental-leave-another-step-towards-socialism/

I think that a more appropriate way to provide for Federal Workers who are "planning" families would be a savings account.   Increase the pay of military personnel and Federal Workers to allow for them to opt into a voluntary savings specifically for family leave.  That would not be socialism.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #128 on: January 11, 2020, 10:27:36 pm »
Scatter brained kook TDS bullshit.

"I would rather suffer socialism"

@truth_seeker

Organized religion IS socialism.
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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #129 on: January 11, 2020, 10:37:32 pm »
@truth_seeker

Organized religion IS socialism.

It does put you into direct contact with double-breasted mattress thrashers, though. Too hard to ignore. Hard to keep up with.
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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #130 on: January 11, 2020, 10:38:28 pm »
@truth_seeker

Organized religion IS socialism.

That's funny, but much of liberalism is Atheism, Humanism or New Age nuts.

Here is some good reading on Socialism.  A proper schooling about Socialists from Socialists.

https://www.worldsocialism.org/spgb/socialist-standard/1960s/1969/no-773-january-1969/socialism-atheism-or-religion/
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #131 on: January 11, 2020, 10:50:13 pm »

That's funny, but much of liberalism is Atheism, Humanism or New Age nuts.

@Chosen Daughter

There is nothing even the tiniest bit "liberal" about organized religion.
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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #132 on: January 11, 2020, 10:50:19 pm »
@Chosen Daughter

Ya know, be free. I disagree with some of your statements. But I wouldn't block you or put you on any kind of ignore feature. What you have to say is important. I am dead serious.

You would rather?

You would have to actually have to live in a totalitarian place to make that decision.

Have You?

I have.

I didn't vote for Trump.

Much for many of the concerns you have voiced.

But I am this next time. I will.

It isn't a vote for Trump.

It will be a vote for an AMERICAN PRESIDENT.

Peace out.
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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #133 on: January 11, 2020, 10:52:08 pm »
There's a reason why this forum tries to steer away from 'religious' discussion.  Just sayin'
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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #134 on: January 11, 2020, 10:53:32 pm »
@Chosen Daughter

Ya know, be free. I disagree with some of your statements. But I wouldn't block you or put you on any kind of ignore feature. What you have to say is important. I am dead serious.

You would rather?

You would have to actually have to live in a totalitarian place to make that decision.

Have You?

I have.

I didn't vote for Trump.

Much for many of the concerns you have voiced.

But I am this next time. I will.

It isn't a vote for Trump.

It will be a vote for an AMERICAN PRESIDENT.

Peace out.

I would never vote for Socialism.  I won't vote. 

Thank you for your response.  I think many probably do have concerns.  Nobody here wants socialism.  I certainly do not.  Not voting for Trump is a matter of Principle.

Peace.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #135 on: January 11, 2020, 10:54:46 pm »
@Chosen Daughter

There is nothing even the tiniest bit "liberal" about organized religion.

You really need to read the information in the link.  Socialists hate religion.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #136 on: January 11, 2020, 10:56:17 pm »
There's a reason why this forum tries to steer away from 'religious' discussion.  Just sayin'

Stop it.  You brought God into the conversation when talking about Cancer.  Prior to that I only acknowledged who I owe my health to, which is God.  Now we are debating that organized religion is Socialism which it isn't.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #137 on: January 11, 2020, 11:04:04 pm »
Stop it.  You brought God into the conversation when talking about Cancer.  Prior to that I only acknowledged who I owe my health to, which is God.  Now we are debating that organized religion is Socialism which it isn't.

Islam is socialism disguised as organized religion.

Organized religions, as a whole, can be deemed socialistic, but they aren't. Except in the Communistic POV.  Caveat, in these times, you can walk away from any organized religion. Except islam.
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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #138 on: January 11, 2020, 11:05:16 pm »
There are a lot of things that Trump could have done and there are lots of things that Congress has tied has hands at.  Interesting when he tries to force his hand as POTUS he is criticized and if he doesn't do something he is criticized.  It's a no win for him in the eyes of some.
Well, now.

Despite the bitterness of our current ideological battles, liberals and conservatives largely agree on the boundless nature of presidential responsibility. Neither Left nor Right sees the president as the Framers saw him: a constitutionally constrained chief executive with important, but limited, responsibilities. Today, for conservatives as well as liberals, it is the president's job to protect us from harm, to grow the economy, spread American ideals abroad, and even to heal spiritual malaise.

Worse still, the irrational expectations Americans invest in the office drive the growthof presidential power. Asked to perform miracles, modern presidents have often sought powers to  match that responsibility—and all too often Congress has obliged . . . Skepticism toward power lies at the heart of our constitutional culture, and if it makes it harder for presidents to do great works, it also makes it harder for them to abuse power.


---Gene Healy, from "Congressional Abdication and the Cult of the Presidency," Cato Institute White House Studies.

Harder but not, alas, impossible, as we've seen only too often in our lifetimes.

Just as we've seen only too much outcry against the over-reaching executive when it's "their" guy in the White House but---when it's "our" (actual or alleged) guy in the White House assumes or seeks to exercise over-reaching power, and those to whom the over-reaching executive is contra constitutional regardless of whose guy it is say so---"our" side screams blue murder at them for trying to "tie his hands."

You don't need me to remind you that the very Democrats getting constitutional religion over President Tweety's "trying to force his hand" are the same Democrats (give or take a few seat changes in Congress) who denounced those objecting to His Excellency Al-Hashish Field Marshmallow Dr. Barack Obama Dada, COD, RIP, LSMFT, Would-Have-Been-Life President's extra-constitutional forcings of his hands. Even as, I hope devoutly again, you don't need me to remind you that the very Republicans (again, give or take a few seat changes) who got constitutional religion over His Excellency's forcings of his hands now denounce those objecting to President Tweety's actual or attempted extra-constitutional forcings of his hands.

Indeed are a president's hands supposed to be tied when they reach beyond his constitutionally sanctioned purview or competence, whether he's "their" guy or "our" guy. A point the presidency cultists either miss or ignore, just as those Congresses who fobbed off no few of their constitutionally prescribed responsibilities upon the executive either ignored the laws of unintended consequences or succumbed to a certain degree of cult-of-presidency seduction themselves.

Mr. Healy has written two books, both of which I have read and re-read: The Cult of the Presidency: America's Dangerous Devotion to Executive Power (2008) and its followup, False Idol: Barack Obama and the Continuing Cult of the Presidency (2012). (You have to buy The Cult of the Presidency but it's worth the price; you can, however, get False Idol on the house at the link.) I wonder what he'd write for such a followup covering President Tweety's presidency . . .


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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #139 on: January 11, 2020, 11:06:50 pm »
You really need to read the information in the link.  Socialists hate religion.

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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #140 on: January 11, 2020, 11:10:09 pm »
Islam is socialism disguised as organized religion.

Organized religions, as a whole, can be deemed socialistic, but they aren't. Except in the Communistic POV.  Caveat, in these times, you can walk away from any organized religion. Except islam.

@bigheadfred

Good point!

Except we are discussing Socialism,which is "Communist-Lite". Or "communism with training wheels|.

Another important distinction is that Communism either executes or puts non-believers in prison. Granted,organized religion for the most part would love to do the same thing,but they know they can't.
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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #141 on: January 11, 2020, 11:12:11 pm »
Well, now.

Despite the bitterness of our current ideological battles, liberals and conservatives largely agree on the boundless nature of presidential responsibility. Neither Left nor Right sees the president as the Framers saw him: a constitutionally constrained chief executive with important, but limited, responsibilities. Today, for conservatives as well as liberals, it is the president's job to protect us from harm, to grow the economy, spread American ideals abroad, and even to heal spiritual malaise.

Worse still, the irrational expectations Americans invest in the office drive the growthof presidential power. Asked to perform miracles, modern presidents have often sought powers to  match that responsibility—and all too often Congress has obliged . . . Skepticism toward power lies at the heart of our constitutional culture, and if it makes it harder for presidents to do great works, it also makes it harder for them to abuse power.


---Gene Healy, from "Congressional Abdication and the Cult of the Presidency," Cato Institute White House Studies.

Harder but not, alas, impossible, as we've seen only too often in our lifetimes.

Just as we've seen only too much outcry against the over-reaching executive when it's "their" guy in the White House but---when it's "our" (actual or alleged) guy in the White House assumes or seeks to exercise over-reaching power, and those to whom the over-reaching executive is contra constitutional regardless of whose guy it is say so---"our" side screams blue murder at them for trying to "tie his hands."

You don't need me to remind you that the very Democrats getting constitutional religion over President Tweety's "trying to force his hand" are the same Democrats (give or take a few seat changes in Congress) who denounced those objecting to His Excellency Al-Hashish Field Marshmallow Dr. Barack Obama Dada, COD, RIP, LSMFT, Would-Have-Been-Life President's extra-constitutional forcings of his hands. Even as, I hope devoutly again, you don't need me to remind you that the very Republicans (again, give or take a few seat changes) who got constitutional religion over His Excellency's forcings of his hands now denounce those objecting to President Tweety's actual or attempted extra-constitutional forcings of his hands.

Indeed are a president's hands supposed to be tied when they reach beyond his constitutionally sanctioned purview or competence, whether he's "their" guy or "our" guy. A point the presidency cultists either miss or ignore, just as those Congresses who fobbed off no few of their constitutionally prescribed responsibilities upon the executive either ignored the laws of unintended consequences or succumbed to a certain degree of cult-of-presidency seduction themselves.

Mr. Healy has written two books, both of which I have read and re-read: The Cult of the Presidency: America's Dangerous Devotion to Executive Power (2008) and its followup, False Idol: Barack Obama and the Continuing Cult of the Presidency (2012). (You have to buy The Cult of the Presidency but it's worth the price; you can, however, get False Idol on the house at the link.) I wonder what he'd write for such a followup covering President Tweety's presidency . . .

I understanding what you are trying to convey in part-- but the President had the full authority and in fact has the duty to protect this country and to save the lives of Americans.  That's exactly what he did. To make it look like anything else is detrimental to our Republic.  For the leftists to side with our enemy is despicable.
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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #142 on: January 11, 2020, 11:15:56 pm »
Stop it.  You brought God into the conversation when talking about Cancer.  Prior to that I only acknowledged who I owe my health to, which is God.  Now we are debating that organized religion is Socialism which it isn't.

...hmmm seems to me that you brought up the Evangelicals -- Trump is God's man, etc., etc.

This isn't a debate about religion -- this is a thread/debate about Schiff and the left
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« Reply #143 on: January 11, 2020, 11:21:41 pm »
Well, now.


THAT was an exceedingly brilliant post.  :beer:

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« Reply #144 on: January 11, 2020, 11:21:50 pm »
@bigheadfred

Good point!

Except we are discussing Socialism,which is "Communist-Lite". Or "communism with training wheels|.

Another important distinction is that Communism either executes or puts non-believers in prison. Granted,organized religion for the most part would love to do the same thing,but they know they can't.

That was the caveat. I'll only use Christianity as an example. It had it's days when you were put to death for being a heretic. Not so much any more.
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« Reply #145 on: January 11, 2020, 11:26:49 pm »
THAT was an exceedingly brilliant post.  :beer:
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« Reply #146 on: January 11, 2020, 11:44:48 pm »
...hmmm seems to me that you brought up the Evangelicals -- Trump is God's man, etc., etc.

This isn't a debate about religion -- this is a thread/debate about Schiff and the left

Actually no.  My first response was in reference to @jafo2010 talking about Islam.  I brought up that Trump is a friend to one of the most evil Islamic dictatorships.  So Islam was the first religious mention in this thread.  But you weren't very critical of it when you told me God makes people sick.

And of course religion is going to come up in this thread because the ME is religious and Iran is a religious government.  We were talking about foreign policy and the discussion about Syria is totally appropriate as it relates to ISIS, Erdogan and the religion of Islam.  And the oppression of every other religion living in these countries.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #147 on: January 11, 2020, 11:52:20 pm »
Actually no.  My first response was in reference to @jafo2010 talking about Islam.  I brought up that Trump is a friend to one of the most evil Islamic dictatorships.  So Islam was the first religious mention in this thread.  But you weren't very critical of it when you told me God makes people sick.

Not what I meant at all -- but at any rate @ChosenDaughter it wasn't my intention to cause an argument -- quite the opposite -- I was simply hoping to diffuse the situation and certainly not trying to lay blame or fault.
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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #148 on: January 12, 2020, 12:03:58 am »
Not what I meant at all -- but at any rate @ChosenDaughter it wasn't my intention to cause an argument -- quite the opposite -- I was simply hoping to diffuse the situation and certainly not trying to lay blame or fault.

Some people will probably make fun, but I am serious about my faith.  My world revolves around it not the other way.  But as I said this is a discussion about Iran and Iran is a religious government.  The entire ME is against Christianity so it is unlikely that I would not respond to discussions about Islam.  Or the president "chosen one" making foreign affairs decisions in ME that causes persecution of Christians.

We also can only wait and see if these actions will also cause more problems for the Christians in Iraq and Iran.  Certainly if we pull out of Iraq we can be assured that Christians will suffer as Iraq becomes increasingly Islamic.  Like Turkey and Iran.
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Re: JUST IN: SHOCK ADAM SCHIFF REVELATION – THIS IS SICK
« Reply #149 on: January 12, 2020, 06:02:31 am »
Some people will probably make fun, but I am serious about my faith.  My world revolves around it not the other way.  But as I said this is a discussion about Iran and Iran is a religious government.  The entire ME is against Christianity so it is unlikely that I would not respond to discussions about Islam.  Or the president "chosen one" making foreign affairs decisions in ME that causes persecution of Christians.

We also can only wait and see if these actions will also cause more problems for the Christians in Iraq and Iran.  Certainly if we pull out of Iraq we can be assured that Christians will suffer as Iraq becomes increasingly Islamic.  Like Turkey and Iran.

See? I don't doubt your Faith. Iran isn't governed by a religious government. It seems to me that you are trying to justify that they have some kind of validity in context to your faith. They don't.

Here is what I see.

You have a personal problem that is causing a division in yourself and you are outwardly trying to rationalize it. Ya know? Stop trying to face the nation and face yourself. This is only my opinion. Nothing else.
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