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US Starts Troops Pullout Amid Iran's 'Tough Revenge' Warnings
« on: January 05, 2020, 02:46:36 pm »
US Starts Troops Pullout Amid Iran's 'Tough Revenge' Warnings
 

TEHRAN (FNA)- The United States has started retreating troops from the region on Sunday after Iran warned of painstaking retaliation for the assassination of its top general, and despite President Donald Trump's bombastic remarks that it would bomb 52 Iranian sites if Tehran embarks on threats.

Islamic Revolution Guards Corps (IRGC) Qods Force Commander Lieutenant General Qassem Soleimani, Deputy Commander of Iraq's Popular Mobilization Forces (PMF), or Hashad al-Shabi, Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, and several others were martyred in a targeted assassination raid by US aircraft in Iraq on Friday.

Iranian officials branded Washington assassination operation an “act of international terrorism” and promised retaliation. Supreme Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei has stated that the Unites States must await a tough revenge.

On Sunday informed military sources told Press TV that "the US has been pulling out its troops from the region, despite claims to the contrary".

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Re: US Starts Troops Pullout Amid Iran's 'Tough Revenge' Warnings
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2020, 02:50:54 pm »
I guess Muslims see movement of personnel as a result of the "tough revenge" warnings when it is more likely movements to strengthen their positions.  I would guess the democrats will pick up the mantra sometime today. :pondering:

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« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2020, 02:52:16 pm »
I guess Muslims see movement of personnel as a result of the "tough revenge" warnings when it is more likely movements to strengthen their positions.  I would guess the democrats will pick up the mantra sometime today. :pondering:
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Re: US Starts Troops Pullout Amid Iran's 'Tough Revenge' Warnings
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2020, 05:53:07 pm »
This is actually a really interesting story.  It almost sounds like Iran is looking to claim victory without actually doing anything in response.  "See, they were so afraid of us that they left.  And just don't listen to those U.S. denials."

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Re: US Starts Troops Pullout Amid Iran's 'Tough Revenge' Warnings
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2020, 06:08:58 pm »
You know everyone, this is just Iranian state news. All stories I've seen have said we are sending more troops over. Is there any kind of mainstream source for this? 

It looks like total poppycock in all likelihood, Disinformation.
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« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2020, 06:32:09 pm »
You know everyone, this is just Iranian state news. All stories I've seen have said we are sending more troops over. Is there any kind of mainstream source for this? 

It looks like total poppycock in all likelihood, Disinformation.

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That's kind of the point, though.  It's Iranian propaganda, so that leads to the question of why Iran is telling its people that Iranian threats are successfully forcing us to leave the area?  Seems like the opposite of what you're saying if you want to demonize us, and prepare your people for a big war.  If that was the plan, you'd talk about American arrogance, and how the Americans needed to be punished heavily to change their thinking.
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« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2020, 08:23:40 pm »
Reuters is reporting "US coalition will withdraw from Iraq out of respect for national sovereignty"??? Huh??

https://www.reuters.com/news/world

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« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2020, 08:26:22 pm »
Gotta get them out of the way of the bombers... :)

Trump.....This better be the damn reason.

Or is this a fake news alert?
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« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2020, 08:26:23 pm »
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U.S.-led coalition says it will withdraw from Iraq -letter
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BAGHDAD, Jan 6 (Reuters) - The United States-led military coalition against Islamic State said on Monday that it was pulling out of Iraq and would be repositioning forces over the next few days and weeks, a letter seen by Reuters showed.

"Sir, in deference to the sovereignty of the Republic of Iraq, and as requested by the Iraqi Parliament and the Prime Minister, CJTF-OIR will be repositioning forces over the course of the coming days and weeks to prepare for onward movement," read a letter from United States Marine Corps Brigadier General William H. Seely III, the commanding general of Task Force Iraq.

The authenticity of the letter, which was addressed to the Iraqi defence ministry's Combined Joint Operations Baghdad, was confirmed to Reuters independently by an Iraqi military source.

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Re: US Starts Troops Pullout Amid Iran's 'Tough Revenge' Warnings
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2020, 08:48:32 pm »
This is actually a really interesting story.  It almost sounds like Iran is looking to claim victory without actually doing anything in response.  "See, they were so afraid of us that they left.  And just don't listen to those U.S. denials."

It's gonna be like deja vu  all over again:

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« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2020, 08:52:45 pm »
You know everyone, this is just Iranian state news. All stories I've seen have said we are sending more troops over. Is there any kind of mainstream source for this? 

It looks like total poppycock in all likelihood, Disinformation.

Actually, "Breaking News" signaling a start of withdrawal of troops from the region ENHANCES Pres. Trump's hand.

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Re: US Starts Troops Pullout Amid Iran's 'Tough Revenge' Warnings
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2020, 09:25:44 pm »
This appears to be SOP notifying the government of Iraq of any troop repositioning --- and we’re moving some troops out of Baghdad to elsewhere in Iraq.

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NEW: 100s of US-led forces are being moved out of a base in Baghdad’s Green Zone to elsewhere in Iraq, such as Taji base, & to Kuwait (but still in theatre of ops), a coalition source says, explaining letter below👇. It’s to “thin out” troops in Baghdad. “We’re not leaving Iraq”

12:44 PM - 6 Jan 2020


https://twitter.com/haynesdeborah/status/1214286578270572545

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« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2020, 09:44:17 pm »
Actually, "Breaking News" signaling a start of withdrawal of troops from the region ENHANCES Pres. Trump's hand.

IOW...  "Make my day!!"

So handing over assets worth billions (bases and embassy) to our enemies enhances Trump's hand?

Wow, I want to hear how you came up with that.....
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« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2020, 10:20:31 pm »
BREAKING NEWS: Chaos over U.S. troops in Iraq as Pentagon insists they WON'T withdraw despite general leading anti-ISIS coalition saying they'll move 'out of Iraq' in draft letter released by mistake amid anger over attack that killed Qassem Soleimani

    General in charge of U.S. coalition forces in Iraq tells military counterpart to prepare for helicopter flights as troops pull up stakes
    Letter says troops will soon begin flying out in transport helicopters under cover of darkness
    But defense secretary tells reporters that 'there's been no decision whatsoever to leave Iraq, period'
    Chairman of the joint chief of staff confesses that the letter was a draft released by mistake
    Donald Trump said Sunday that he would only withdraw troops if Iraq paid the U.S. for building and maintaining the main air base the coalition uses
    He also threatened greater sanctions than those he has imposed on Iran
    Iraq's parliament had passed a resolution, which is nonbinding, urging the government to evict American troops
    That was in response to Trump green-lighting a drone attack on an infamous Iranian military leader while he was in Baghdad, in Iraqi soil 
    U.S. will send six B-52 bombers to the Diego Garcia air base on an island in the Indian Ocean, to prepare for the possibility of military action against Iran

By David Martosko, U.s. Political Editor For Dailymail.com and Wires

Published: 15:39 EST, 6 January 2020 | Updated: 17:15 EST, 6 January 2020


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Re: US Starts Troops Pullout Amid Iran's 'Tough Revenge' Warnings
« Reply #14 on: January 07, 2020, 12:18:53 am »
So handing over assets worth billions (bases and embassy) to our enemies enhances Trump's hand?

Wow, I want to hear how you came up with that.....

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Who says we are handing them over? We may be moving troops to clean it for missile strikes to destroy everything we built so they can't use it.
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2020, 01:43:48 am »
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Who says we are handing them over? We may be moving troops to clean it for missile strikes to destroy everything we built so they can't use it.

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That I could buy in on.....
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« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2020, 01:53:59 am »
@sneakypete

That I could buy in on.....

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I personally believe the Iranians will cave and pay him off,while telling their citizens that they cowed him into leaving without destroying everything. Really,what are their other options,pissing him off by daring him to destroy it all? I think we all know how well that would work out for them. They would end up looking weak and powerless to the people they need to keep afraid in order to keep them from overthrowing and executing them. In the Muddle East,it's ALL about Macho,and leaders there can't afford to look weak,or be seen as losing. Politicians in the US that look weak find themselves out of power and out of office. Muslim leaders that look weak end up finding themselves being execute in a public square.

And they literally can do nothing to stop him from destroying everything the US built there. Their best bet is to bribe the Dims into stopping him with some sort of court order,but I think by now we all know Trump would just go ahead and do it anyhow.

He is going to end up recovering tens of millions of dollars for the US treasury,as well as ending the welfare payments to Islam,causing Dim heads to explode all over the nation.

Win/win is the way I see it.
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« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2020, 01:57:08 am »
At best someone is going to be loosing their job for that letter and at worse visiting the brig.

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« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2020, 02:00:30 am »
At best someone is going to be losing their job for that letter and at worse visiting the brig.

If this letter was sent as a "mistake" the general responsible should spend some quality years in the brig....just to send the right message to the troops.

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« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2020, 02:06:12 am »
The letter was an unauthorized and unsighed draft, now withdrawn!!!!!
Too stupid for words!!!

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« Reply #20 on: January 07, 2020, 02:07:14 am »
The letter was an unauthorized and unsighed draft, now withdrawn!!!!!
Too stupid for words!!!


On this, you and I agree  :beer:

The general must be held accountable.




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« Reply #21 on: January 07, 2020, 02:34:38 am »
A reflection.
A sea change ocurred due to our our entry into the Great War in 1917; as
it internationalized our politics over the last 100 years; and for the worse.
An incident like this labels our Pentagon Types as the flunkies the vast
majority are and whose first and last thoughts concern grabbing headlines;
never what is in the best interests of average americans.

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« Reply #22 on: January 07, 2020, 02:53:08 am »
   I actually thought it was brilliant, remove the Troops in close proximity before you allow Netanyahu to turn Iran into a parking lot.

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