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Donald Trump's Finances: Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?
« on: December 18, 2019, 12:45:41 pm »
Newsweek by  Roger Parloff 12/17/2019

President Donald Trump's most jealously guarded secrets—his financial records, including tax returns—will probably remain hidden from voters until after the next election.

That's just one likely consequence of the U.S. Supreme Court's red-letter decision earlier this month to hear three cases, involving five subpoenas, seeking those records. Though the Justices will hear arguments in March and rule by next June—several months before we go to the polls—it seems increasingly doubtful that they will order a quick, clean turnover of the president's crown jewels.

Rather, the Court's decision to review these cases signals that ninety-two years of legal precedent concerning the investigative powers of Congress may be due for an overhaul. Precisely what will emerge is anyone's guess, except that it will be momentous.

The subpoenas, issued by three Congressional committees and a state grand jury in Manhattan, seek the records of Trump, his three oldest children—Donald Jr., Ivanka and Eric—The Trump Organization and a dense tangle of affiliated business entities.

Since 1927, when the Court decided a case stemming from the Teapot Dome scandal of the Warren Harding Administration, the law in this area has been fairly clear. Congress has had broad investigative leeway to inform its legislative functions. So long as it could articulate a "legislative purpose" for the information sought, courts would not second-guess its motives.

But while Congressional subpoenas were once rare, their use has been accelerating since the 1970s. Since taking control of the House in January, Democrats have demanded documents from more than 100 Trump allies or businesses. In response, Trump has stonewalled. "We're fighting all the subpoenas," he vowed last April.

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Re: Donald Trump's Finances: Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2019, 02:24:33 pm »
None of the Dems' and MSM's (I know, repetitive and redundant) damn business.
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Re: Donald Trump's Finances: Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2019, 02:50:34 pm »
None of the Dems' and MSM's (I know, repetitive and redundant) damn business.
Seconded. In fact, it's nobody's business.

If they can snoop into his, they can snoop into ours—and leak it to the press if they don't like us. Social Security numbers and all.
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Re: Donald Trump's Finances: Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2019, 02:53:21 pm »
Trump is not obligated to release his tax returns, but it is a tradition that past presidents and candidates have followed routinely. 

Trump won't release his financial information because he has something to hide.  It's that simple.

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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2019, 03:21:12 pm »
Trump is not obligated to release his tax returns, but it is a tradition that past presidents and candidates have followed routinely. 1.

Trump won't release his financial information because he has something to hide.  It's that simple. 2.

1. Given that the income tax was started only about a century ago, that's obviously incorrect (I'm trying to be nice). Further, Nixon was the first President to release his tax returns, so doing so is recent, not at all a long-standing tradition.

2. No, he's protecting his privacy. And in so doing, as @jmyrlefuller pointed out, Trump thereby is protecting the privacy of every American from tyrannous politicians who would access tax returns as a political weapon.

2. By your "logic" every American who does not want his/her tax returns mad public is "hiding something". Putting it nicely, that's BS.
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Re: Donald Trump's Finances: Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2019, 03:28:37 pm »
Trump is not obligated to release his tax returns, but it is a tradition that past presidents and candidates have followed routinely. 

Trump won't release his financial information because he has something to hide.  It's that simple.

Oh come on.  When a cop pulls me over and asks if it okay to search my car, I say no.   Why?  Because I'm hauling 45 Illegals and 12 keys of pure bolivian in the trunk of my hoopty?

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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2019, 03:35:33 pm »
None of the Dems' and MSM's (I know, repetitive and redundant) damn business.
Will we ever know Pelosi's financial information?
Will we ever know Clinton's financial information?
Of course not.
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Re: Donald Trump's Finances: Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2019, 03:39:54 pm »
Trump is not obligated to release his tax returns, but it is a tradition that past presidents and candidates have followed routinely. 

Trump won't release his financial information because he has something to hide.  It's that simple.

He is not legally obligated period.  End of story.  It's that simple. So, you are assuming he's guilty.  Another case of being guilty until proven innocent. Nice.
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Re: Donald Trump's Finances: Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2019, 03:47:19 pm »
He is not legally obligated period.  End of story.  It's that simple. So, you are assuming he's guilty.  Another case of being guilty until proven innocent. Nice.

And if Trump released 20 years of his tax returns, all showing he over-paid, would Never-Trumpers then trust him? Of course not! They'd split between, "He's hiding something!" and moving on to the next fauxny Gotcha-Trump! Because facts do not matter to them any more than facts matter on Democratic Underground.
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Re: Donald Trump's Finances: Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2019, 05:21:36 pm »

Trump won't release his financial information because he has something to hide.  It's that simple.

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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2019, 06:02:08 pm »
Here you go ...

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Re: Donald Trump's Finances: Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2019, 07:54:16 pm »
Will we ever know Pelosi's financial information?
Will we ever know Clinton's financial information?
Of course not.
You left out we will never know Barry's financial information or anything about his real G-damn past and if anyone even asks the entirety of the liberal media and other leftists in the country scream


There are so many Congress critters that somehow got unbelievably wealthy on their government salaries that they should think twice about opening the door to private financials inspections. Then again maybe there should be a nationwide push to have all of their tax returns made public if they are so interested in being open and honest.

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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2019, 08:03:32 pm »
You left out we will never know Barry's financial information or anything about his real G-damn past and if anyone even asks the entirety of the liberal media and other leftists in the country scream

There are so many Congress critters that somehow got unbelievably wealthy on their government salaries that they should think twice about opening the door to private financials inspections. Then again maybe there should be a nationwide push to have all of their tax returns made public if they are so interested in being open and honest.
Been saying the same thing for months. I think the reason DEMs do not fear that they will be next to be audited is because they have come to believe that Laws and Rules only apply to Republicans, and that Democrats are somehow exempt from Laws.
And usually they are correct.
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Re: Donald Trump's Finances: Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2019, 10:45:45 pm »
There are so many Congress critters that somehow got unbelievably wealthy on their government salaries that they should think twice about opening the door to private financials inspections. Then again maybe there should be a nationwide push to have all of their tax returns made public if they are so interested in being open and honest.[/size]

Yep. Personally, I think that anyone - ANYONE who works for the government, to include subcontractors, should have to publish finances openly. Nothing better for government than daylight.

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Re: Donald Trump's Finances: Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?
« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2019, 11:35:50 pm »
Trump won't release his financial information because he has something to hide.  It's that simple.

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Re: Donald Trump's Finances: Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2019, 12:01:16 am »
When a Newsweak article cries:
"Will Voters Ever Know The Truth?"

... I know that I'm NOT going to be getting it from Newsweak.

No need to read further.