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Back to the topic; Giuliani is proving to be one of Trump's worst choices, but keep in mind that Rudy has not testified nor been indicted.   

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Both are true,but how is Trump,the client,responsible for any side deals the lawyer,Giuliani,tries to cut while working for Trump,the client?

We doing guilt by association impeachment now?
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Both are true,but how is Trump,the client,responsible for any side deals the lawyer,Giuliani,tries to cut while working for Trump,the client?

We doing guilt by association impeachment now?

No of course not.  My point is Giuliani was another one of Trump's poor choices.  It is unfortunate that so many people that Pres. Trump has appointed have not fared very well.  Not 'guilt' by association; but he IS judged by those he surrounds himself with .  I am just as guilty in that respect as I have questioned his association with Giuliani. I don't like Giuliani, don't like his associations and his questionable activities and I have time and time again wondered why Trump chose him in the first place.  Trump has to know some of his flaws.  Trump associated himself with Epstein and Clinton; it doesn't make him guilty of their wrong doings, but it sure the heck makes one question his judgement of being involved with them in the first place.

It doesn't mean that Trump has committed an impeachable offense because Giuliani may have some explaining to do, but it sure doesn't help matters and of course the MSM paints 'guilty' on his forehead and those associated with him.
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I don't like Giuliani, don't like his associations and his questionable activities and I have time and time again wondered why Trump chose him in the first place.

I suspect he chose him because both lived in NYC and knew each other well,and because he knew Rudy to be a good lawyer with lots of connections.

 
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Trump has to know some of his flaws.

You don't care about flaws when hiring a lawyer. You care about how effectively he can represent you. Yo ain't marrying him,you are hiring him temporarily.

 
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    Giuliani is following in the foot steps of Trump's first two personal attorneys, Cohn, Cohen~under Federal indictment.

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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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You don't care about flaws when hiring a lawyer. You care about how effectively he can represent you. Yo ain't marrying him,you are hiring him temporarily.
 

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That is not true.

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@sneakypete

That is not true.

I certainly would worry about "flaws".  Flaws can sink you.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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I certainly would worry about "flaws".  Flaws can sink you.

Well, let me leave it at this:
Every SOB that has ever screwed me was lacking honor, integrity, and basic honesty.

I will leave it to others to work out that math.  :shrug:

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Is that all you got?
Your statement is false. There is never a use for anyone that is without integrity. You will get screwed. That's how it works.

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Is that all you got?
Your statement is false. There is never a use for anyone that is without integrity. You will get screwed. That's how it works.

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It's all I need. I live in the real world.
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It's all I need. I live in the real world.

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The real world says, Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.

If someone cannot keep their word, I don't want nothing to do with them. Same with honor, integrity, and conscience.

It is honestly surprising to me that folks would think otherwise... But it certainly explains why suckers continue to exist.

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The real world says, Lie down with dogs, wake up with fleas.

If someone cannot keep their word, I don't want nothing to do with them. Same with honor, integrity, and conscience.

It is honestly surprising to me that folks would think otherwise... But it certainly explains why suckers continue to exist.

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What surprises me the most is adults with such a one-dimensional view of the world.
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What surprises me the most is adults with such a one-dimensional view of the world.

Excellent description of the problem @sneakypete   Excellent!   :beer:

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Excellent description of the problem @sneakypete   Excellent!   :beer:

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I wouldn't be surprised to learn most of the AT's still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny.
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Giuliani: Lawyers are telling me to sue Fox News host for libel

by Mike Brest

December 02, 2019 11:48 AM

 
Rudy Giuliani said that his lawyers brought up the idea of suing Fox News anchor Steve Hilton after he called on the President Trump to sever ties with his personal attorney.

Hilton, the host of The Next Revolution, attacked the former New York City mayor after reports surfaced that he pursued personal business deals in Ukraine while he was there trying to start foreign investigations into targets that Trump wanted investigated. Hilton also referred to Giuliani as "an unmitigated and ... unethical disaster" and suggested "all of these hangers-on have been trying to make money for themselves off Trump," during his show on Sunday night.

Giuliani pushed back on Hilton's assertions on Monday morning, tweeting in part, "I have not taken a penny for representing my friend, President Trump. I am outraged that @SteveHiltonx reported that I was trying to pursue private business deals in Ukraine to 'enrich' myself, when in reality I have made ZERO in Ukraine! Very lazy reporting!"

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/giuliani-lawyers-are-telling-me-to-sue-fox-news-host-for-libel


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What surprises me the most is adults with such a one-dimensional view of the world.

So you are *FOR* dishonesty, lacking of integrity, and a seared conscience... ???
If that is the case @sneakypete , I can see why Tump attracts you.

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So you are *FOR* dishonesty, lacking of integrity, and a seared conscience... ???
If that is the case @sneakypete , I can see why Tump attracts you.

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I'm not the one living a fantasy life as a mountain man.
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I'm not the one living a fantasy life as a mountain man.

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Were any laws broken here? Did money change hands? Anything more than the usual juicy yet content-less headlines?

Bueller?

Another non story.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2019, 08:34:36 pm by skeeter »

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I wouldn't be surprised to learn most of the AT's still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny.

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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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I wouldn't be surprised to learn most of the AT's still believe in Santa and the Easter Bunny.

Point of clarification, my friend.  Did you mean NT's .... ?

Thanks.

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Point of clarification, my friend.  Did you mean NT's .... ?

Thanks.

No, he didn't that wouldn't make sense.  Its about believing not unbelieving.

I think Sneaky could support Trump and still have a brain.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2019, 03:48:44 am by Chosen Daughter »
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.