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Well, the DEMS started this bogus charade; I hope it turns out that they wind up taking down some of their own in the process.

Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower

As impeachment for Christmas heats up in Washington, GOP senators are sending a not so subtle messages to House Democrats about what Pandora’s present they are about to unwrap. Early Friday, Sen. Lindsey Graham sent official requests to the State Department for documents pertaining to Burisma and its board member Hunter Biden. Later, Sen. Ted Cruz sent out a release promising things are going to go a lot farther than documents.

“I think any proceeding in the Senate should be fair, should be open, and should respect due process. What does that mean? That means allowing both sides to present their case and if the White House chooses to call as a witness Hunter Biden, if the White House chooses to call as a witness the whistleblower, I think they should be allowed to call them. I think – both of those witnesses in particular may well be integral to the White House’s defense,” Cruz said.

This is rather significant. As House Speaker Nancy Pelosi always feared, Democrats are about to hand over the keys to the impeachment car to Sen. Mitch McConnell and the Senate Republicans, people like Cruz. They are giving the GOP control of the process without having significantly moved public opinion.........

https://thefederalist.com/2019/11/23/ted-cruz-senate-should-subpoena-hunter-biden-and-the-whistleblower/
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2019, 03:10:14 pm »
Hunter Biden, the "whistleblower" and a few Ukrainian MPs (well, they can't be subpeonaed but they can be invited to testify under oath) who have been giving interviews in Europe about Ukrainian government support for the Clinton campaign, including, according to one, financial support funneled through Burisma in the form of "bags of cash".
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2019, 04:36:35 pm »
The trial is not about Hunter Biden - it is did Trump commit bribery - hold back the money to Ukraine the congress approved, in exchange for Ukraine doing what Trump wanted. He held up the money until the day after the whistleblower came forward.

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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2019, 05:17:44 pm »
The trial is not about Hunter Biden - it is did Trump commit bribery - hold back the money to Ukraine the congress approved, in exchange for Ukraine doing what Trump wanted. He held up the money until the day after the whistleblower came forward.

No the trial isn't about Biden, but 'they' need to prove that Trump committed bribery and supposedly what has been reported is that the bribe that was made involved Biden in order for Trump to get an 'edge' on him for the presidency.  So, in essence, it does involve Biden.  It just so happens that Uncle Joe and Son are not innocent.

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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2019, 06:46:52 pm »
It's a no-brainer. Hunter will have to lie - if he takes the 5th it gives them reasonable grounds to put Joe on the stand and the whole thing blows up. If the dems can't get Hunter to commit to lying when called, the impeachment won't happen.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2019, 07:02:39 pm »
No the trial isn't about Biden, but 'they' need to prove that Trump committed bribery and supposedly what has been reported is that the bribe that was made involved Biden in order for Trump to get an 'edge' on him for the presidency.  So, in essence, it does involve Biden.  It just so happens that Uncle Joe and Son are not innocent.

Agreed.  Hunter Biden just didn't get access and influence on his accomplishments that's for sure.  Any wrongdoing will implicate Slow Joe.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2019, 10:46:03 pm »
Hunter Biden, the "whistleblower" and a few Ukrainian MPs (well, they can't be subpeonaed but they can be invited to testify under oath) who have been giving interviews in Europe about Ukrainian government support for the Clinton campaign, including, according to one, financial support funneled through Burisma in the form of "bags of cash".

Bingo!

If this goes to the Senate it's going to get really ugly. I know some will fight the Biden connection, but goes right to the heart of Trump's concern about corruption.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2019, 10:51:27 pm »
The trial is not about Hunter Biden - it is did Trump commit bribery - hold back the money to Ukraine the congress approved, in exchange for Ukraine doing what Trump wanted. He held up the money until the day after the whistleblower came forward.

You're wrong on a couple points. The Biden corruption in Ukraine is a legitimate concern about releasing funds. The POTUS sets foreign policy, Congress may offer funding but implementation is up to the POTUS. Also, it is not bribery to say to a leader of a foreign country that you will not receive funds if you don't investigate the corruption in your country. We do not give out aid without strings attached, nor should we.

Joe Biden's corruption does not get to be ignored just because he decided to run for office.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2019, 10:56:19 pm »
You're wrong on a couple points. The Biden corruption in Ukraine is a legitimate concern about releasing funds. The POTUS sets foreign policy, Congress may offer funding but implementation is up to the POTUS. Also, it is not bribery to say to a leader of a foreign country that you will not receive funds if you don't investigate the corruption in your country. We do not give out aid without strings attached, nor should we.

Joe Biden's corruption does not get to be ignored just because he decided to run for office.

Joe Biden's corruption has been ignored long enough.  I'm hoping the corruption is exposed and he takes his former boss down with him.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2019, 11:18:44 pm »
Joe Biden's corruption has been ignored long enough.  I'm hoping the corruption is exposed and he takes his former boss down with him.

I'm with you!

If we want corruption ended there have to be consequences at the highest level.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2019, 11:20:50 pm »
The trial is not about Hunter Biden - it is did Trump commit bribery - hold back the money to Ukraine the congress approved, in exchange for Ukraine doing what Trump wanted. He held up the money until the day after the whistleblower came forward.

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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2019, 11:21:14 pm »
The trial is not about Hunter Biden - it is did Trump commit bribery - hold back the money to Ukraine the congress approved, in exchange for Ukraine doing what Trump wanted. He held up the money until the day after the whistleblower came forward.

Total unmitigated bullshit.   
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2019, 11:23:38 pm »


Joe Biden's corruption does not get to be ignored just because he decided to run for office.

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But.....,but....,but.....,but,that is so UNFAIR! It was always ignored before!
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2019, 11:28:34 pm »
@bilo

But.....,but....,but.....,but,that is so UNFAIR! It was always ignored before!

LOL

Can't imagine why there's so much corruption in DC.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2019, 11:42:40 pm »
LOL

Can't imagine why there's so much corruption in DC.
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Remember when Newt and the Republicans took over control of Congress for the first time in over 40 years,and started making changes?  I can't remember his name now,but one old Dim congresscritter stood up complained about something Newt and the Reublicans did,and when Newt responded with "Why not? You did it to us?",he actually stuttered and said "That's different!" This yahoo was genuinely shocked to discover he was going to be held to the same rules he had been holding the Republicans to the whole time he had been in office.

Of course,the Republicans then immediately screwed up by offering committee chairman seats to any Dim willing to swap parties,and within a year it was hard to tell the Republican Party and the Dim Party apart.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #15 on: November 25, 2019, 05:32:35 am »
@Victoria33
Good to see you come out of the closet and admit your hatred for Trump tops your love for America.

I posted a fact.  You appear to not like facts if they are contrary to what you want to believe.

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« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2019, 01:07:34 am »
I posted a fact.  You appear to not like facts if they are contrary to what you want to believe.

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Opinions and facts are NOT the same thing.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2019, 07:29:23 am »
The trial is not about Hunter Biden - it is did Trump commit bribery - hold back the money to Ukraine the congress approved, in exchange for Ukraine doing what Trump wanted. He held up the money until the day after the whistleblower came forward.
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Undeniable, but Republicans don't want to hear it, so they won't. 

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« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2019, 08:43:19 am »
@Victoria33

Opinions and facts are NOT the same thing.
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You guys have your own facts @Right_in_Virginia says the Mueller Report was not about Russian interference.  @sneakypete thinks the impeachment is about Biden.
I constantly question if my vehemently anti-Trump opinions turn people off to my message.  I know they do, but I have decided that you can lead a horse to water, but you can make him drink.  I decided facts don't care about feelings. 

Do you ever question if you have any credibility outside of your own bubble, or if you make the Trump GOP look worse with each sycophantic post? 

I hear you think you have been winning for 3 years but IMO we have a $23 Trillion debt.  Obamacare is law.  Hillary is SO NOT locked up she thinks she might run again.  No wall built, Mexico didn't pay for it.  Swamp is worse than ever.  Our standing in the world deteriorates.  No China deal.  No USMCA.  The GOP is losing power nationally and statewide since 2016, and Americans hate each other. 
 
IMO any President can f*ck up this badly.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2019, 12:38:38 pm »
You guys have your own facts @Right_in_Virginia says the Mueller Report was not about Russian interference.  @sneakypete thinks the impeachment is about Biden.
I constantly question if my vehemently anti-Trump opinions turn people off to my message.  I know they do, but I have decided that you can lead a horse to water, but you can make him drink.  I decided facts don't care about feelings. 

Do you ever question if you have any credibility outside of your own bubble, or if you make the Trump GOP look worse with each sycophantic post? 

I hear you think you have been winning for 3 years but IMO we have a $23 Trillion debt.  Obamacare is law.  Hillary is SO NOT locked up she thinks she might run again.  No wall built, Mexico didn't pay for it.  Swamp is worse than ever.  Our standing in the world deteriorates.  No China deal.  No USMCA.  The GOP is losing power nationally and statewide since 2016, and Americans hate each other. 
 
IMO any President can f*ck up this badly.
Those are my facts.  Do you recognize any of them?

Yes, the debt has risen, but unemployment is at historic lows; people are back to work and the use of food stamps has dramatically declined.

Hillary may not be locked up and the corruption that existed within the DOJ still exists, however that corruption is not Trump's creation and if you think she is healthy enough and has enough stamina to run, you're dreaming, not to mention that the deadlines that she must meet to run are narrowing.

The USCMA is in the hands of Congress, I anticipate that the House led majority under Pelosi will sink it. 

As for the wall, you are absolutely correct, it is not built 100% by any means, though finally 'new' wall is being put in place in spite of obstruction by Nancy and Chucky.

Portions of Bammycare have been dismantled.

Is the swamp worse then ever, or has Trump exposed how deep it really is?

The GOP is losing power?  Last time I checked they had a full majority under the leadership of Lyin' Ryan and they blew it.  They had a full majority when Bammy was president and they blew it. Trump didn't elect Ryan, nor McConnell.

IMHO our standing in the world is far better now than under Bammy.  At least Trump doesn't apologize for our country, quite the opposite; American Pride!

I am by far a Trump supporter, but I believe he needs to be given credit for trying to head this country in a better direction and standing up to the leftist bat crap crazies. He's shown tenacity, patriotism and leadership.  He is not perfect, has some rough edges for sure, but he IS what is standing between us and the liberal leftists who want to lead us into socialism.

I shutter to think of a President Warren, Buttgig, Biden, etc.  Have you taken a look at what they are proposing?

No one on the GOP side who could do better than Trump has come forward to run against him.  No one.  So ... here we sit.
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2019, 01:49:37 pm »
You guys have your own facts @Right_in_Virginia says the Mueller Report was not about Russian interference.  @sneakypete thinks the impeachment is about Biden.

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Speaking of having your own "Facts"..........
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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2019, 02:12:45 pm »
If the impeachment isn't about Biden, then he should be happy to testify and offer proof that Trump's actions were entirely politically motivated. That one act would cement the nomination for him. It's such a slam-dunk that Schiff's refusal to put either Biden on the stand makes it clear that there's something there that they don't want us to know.

As for Trump, criticize him all you want but the bottom line is where we are now vs. where we'd be under Clinton - stagnant economy, higher taxes, more giveaway spending, millions more illegals, expanded 0bamacare, more unfavorable trade deals - the list is almost endless. The difference in judicial appointments alone is monumental and historic.

I frankly don't see how any rational person who genuinely believes those differences matter would happily throw them all away just to satisfy his hatred.
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« Reply #23 on: November 26, 2019, 02:32:46 pm »


I frankly don't see how any rational person who genuinely believes those differences matter would happily throw them all away just to satisfy his hatred.

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Re: Ted Cruz: Senate Should Subpoena Hunter Biden And The Whistleblower
« Reply #24 on: November 26, 2019, 02:45:32 pm »
@Victoria33

Good to see you come out of the closet and admit your hatred for Trump tops your love for America.
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