Top Navy officials are threatening to quit if Trump blocks plans to expel Navy SEAL

[sneakypete]

So he was acquitted of those charges, and his only crime is posing for a picture? Good riddance to these losers then.

@Weird Tolkienish Figure

No,he is guilty of two "crimes". The first is not being a "real sailor" that floats around on boats doing nothing real at taxpayer expense. The Navy Brass NEEDS "floaters" in order to justify their positions and to insure those positions will still be there for their children,and their grandchildren. Hell,the Blue Sea Boys RESENT SEALS for showing everyone how useless the regular Navy is these days. On top of that,they don't wear Navy uniforms,they still grow beards after they have been forbidden to sailors,and the press focuses on them instead of the carrier Navy. TOTALLY unacceptable! If the Navy didn't need them to keep them in the budget chain,they would disband the SEAL teams and put them to work chipping rust and painting hulls. You know,REAL SAILOR WORK!

There are no bigger human hemmorids in the world than Naval Officers,but Chief Petty Officers ARE contenders for the title. They don't fight wars anymore,so they make up for  it by fighting people in their own branch they outrank.

[PeteS in CA]

Fake news, courtesy of the Skew York Slimes, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military-seals-idUSKBN1XX0NT . Fox should have been more skeptical.

Existing thread, http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,383469.0.html

[sneakypete]

Was he Chief of Naval Operations when two US Destroyer collided with Merchant shipping? If so I would have fired his ass.

I looked it up he wasn't however there is something very wrong with the US Navy. I can't believe they do not post a watch
on the port and starboard side when steaming at night. That is basic seamanship. The entire US Navy needs a good shake
up.

@jpsb

I grew up near Norfolk,Va and went to school with a lot of Navy kids. The WW-2 Admirals and Navy in general weren't so bad,but once the war ended and the Navy turned into a private "Good Old Boy" organization with nobody but Princes and Serfs. The brass flat don't give a squat about the enlisted swine until the enlisted swine start to get more positive press than they do. When that happens,bad things happen to the enlisted swine that "stole" their glory.

[PeteS in CA]

US Navy secretary denies he threatened to resign over Trump SEAL intervention

https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2019/11/23/us-navy-secretary-denies-he-threatened-to-resigned-over-trump-seal-intervention/

Yep, fake news, courtesy of the Skew York Slimes, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military-seals-idUSKBN1XX0NT .

[Elderberry]

Yep, fake news, courtesy of the Skew York Slimes, https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-military-seals-idUSKBN1XX0NT .

Late to the party. Found out yesterday.

[Elderberry]

Existing thread, http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,383469.0.html

Yes. Of course. Already merged yesterday.

[Elderberry]

AP Report: White House backs down in SEAL Gallagher / Navy dispute – will let review board proceed

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/11/ap-report-white-house-backs-down-in-seal-gallagher-navy-dispute-will-let-review-board-proceed/

This is a breaking news story. Please check back for updates as more information becomes available.

After President Donald Trump initially tweeted to block the Navy from removing Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher from the SEALs, the White House has signaled it will now let the case play out.

The White House issued new guidance, advising the Navy to proceed with a review board considering whether Gallagher remain with his Navy SEAL unit, according to an unnamed Navy official who spoke to the Associated Press.

The apparent change of heart in the Trump White House could resolve a dispute between Trump and the Navy, in which they will decide if Gallagher will remain a SEAL. The Navy review of Gallagher’s case followed a decision by Trump to reinstate Gallagher at his full rank of Chief Petty Officer after the SEAL was demoted for taking pictures alongside a dead ISIS fighter.

[mystery-ak]

White House will not intervene in Navy's discipline of SEAL Eddie Gallagher
by Carlin Becker
 | November 24, 2019 12:55 PM

The White House will reportedly stand down as the Navy prepares to take disciplinary action against SEAL Eddie Gallagher.

Despite President Trump's tweeting Thursday that he would not allow the Navy to strip Gallagher of his SEAL Trident, effectively removing him from his position in the elite unit, an anonymous Navy official confirmed to the Associated Press on Sunday that the military branch was notified that the White House would not step in.

According to the official, the Navy was given guidance on Friday that it can proceed with expelling Gallagher, who was acquitted of murder charges over the summer but convicted of taking a photo with the body of an ISIS fighter he was accused of killing, after the close of his war crimes case. Gallagher was demoted on rank after his conviction, but Trump restored his rank on Nov. 15.

more
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house-will-not-intervene-in-navys-discipline-of-seal-eddie-gallagher

[Elderberry]

Another article posted here too: http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,383469.msg2099642.html#msg2099642

[sneakypete]

AP Report: White House backs down in SEAL Gallagher / Navy dispute – will let review board proceed

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/11/ap-report-white-house-backs-down-in-seal-gallagher-navy-dispute-will-let-review-board-proceed/

@Elderberry

There should not BE any "dispute". They are the Navy,and he is their boss. It ain't really all that complicated.

[Elderberry]

@Elderberry

There should not BE any "dispute". They are the Navy,and he is their boss. It ain't really all that complicated.

Dispute? Absolutely not! I'm sure everyone that's a member of that "Review Board" has been "Recalibrated".

[mrclose]

President Trump has fired the Secretary of the Navy after publicly defying a direct order from the commander in chief.

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1198726878129016832

[libertybele]

Rightfully so.

[mrclose]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7721023/Navy-Secretary-Richard-Spencer-resigns-private-proposal-Navy-SEAL-Edward-Gallaghers-case.html

[Cyber Liberty]

So, Trump caved to the threats from the brass?

[Elderberry]

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2019/11/pentagon-head-asks-for-navy-secretarys-resignation-over-seal-gallagher-case-after-new-reports-of-secret-white-house-talks/

The Pentagon has asked Navy Secretary Richard Spencer to resign on Sunday after he reportedly intended to ensure Navy SEAL Eddie Gallagher would retire as a SEAL.

Defense Secretary Mark Esper made the request after a loss of confidence in Spencer after Spencer allegedly threatened to intervene in Gallagher’s case if the White House failed to, the Washington Post first reported on Sunday.

“Unfortunately, as a result I have determined that Secretary Spencer no longer has my confidence to continue in his position,” Esper said. “I wish Richard well.”

Esper has already suggested Spencer’s replacement to Trump, proposing retired Navy Rear. Adm. Kenneth Braithwaite, the current U.S. Ambassador to Norway.

[Elderberry]

So, Trump caved to the threats from the brass?

Don't look like it now that the Sec of the Navy has been asked to resign.

[Wingnut]

   Be gone Spencer you asshat.

By
Ashley Parker and
Dan Lamothe
November 24, 2019 at 3:46 p.m. CST

Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper asked for the resignation of Navy Secretary Richard V. Spencer on Sunday after losing confidence in him over his handling of the case of a Navy SEAL accused of war crimes in Iraq, the Pentagon said.

Spencer’s resignation came in the wake of the controversial case of Chief Petty Officer Edward Gallagher, a Navy SEAL who was accused of war crimes on a 2017 deployment. He was acquitted of murder but convicted in July of posing with the corpse of a captive.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2019/11/24/pentagon-chief-asks-navy-secretarys-resignation-over-private-proposal-navy-seals-case/

[sneakypete]

White House will not intervene in Navy's discipline of SEAL Eddie Gallagher
by Carlin Becker
 | November 24, 2019 12:55 PM

The White House will reportedly stand down as the Navy prepares to take disciplinary action against SEAL Eddie Gallagher.

Despite President Trump's tweeting Thursday that he would not allow the Navy to strip Gallagher of his SEAL Trident, effectively removing him from his position in the elite unit, an anonymous Navy official confirmed to the Associated Press on Sunday that the military branch was notified that the White House would not step in.

According to the official, the Navy was given guidance on Friday that it can proceed with expelling Gallagher, who was acquitted of murder charges over the summer but convicted of taking a photo with the body of an ISIS fighter he was accused of killing, after the close of his war crimes case. Gallagher was demoted on rank after his conviction, but Trump restored his rank on Nov. 15.

more
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/white-house-will-not-intervene-in-navys-discipline-of-seal-eddie-gallagher

What a spectacular display of a lack of backbone.

I am disappointed,to say the least.

[Wingnut]

Don't look like it now that the Sec of the Navy has been asked to resign.

yup,

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2019/11/24/pentagon-chief-asks-navy-secretarys-resignation-over-private-proposal-navy-seals-case/

[sneakypete]

Esper has already suggested Spencer’s replacement to Trump, proposing retired Navy Rear. Adm. Kenneth Braithwaite, the current U.S. Ambassador to Norway.

Yeah,THAT's the way to show the squids who is in charge!

[Cyber Liberty]

"You can't quit, you're fired."

[Wingnut]

"You can't quit, you're fired."

Was the SecNav a holdover? 

[Elderberry]

Was the SecNav a holdover?

He was Sec Navy since Aug 2017

[Fishrrman]

Conflicting information from different sources, but in the end I sense Mr. Trump will have his way with this one...