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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry DAY 4
« Reply #50 on: November 20, 2019, 03:32:48 pm »
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Key point from Sondland: Zelensky "had to announce the investigations, he didn't actually have to do them, as I understood it."
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« Reply #51 on: November 20, 2019, 03:32:59 pm »
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Sondland never knew why there had been a hold on foreign aid to Ukraine. For him, it was all about a call and meeting between President Trump and President Zelensky.

It's important to point out that Sondland is drawing his own conclusions without direct evidence.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry DAY 4
« Reply #52 on: November 20, 2019, 03:33:54 pm »
Schit face must be peeing in his pants by now...Sondland just about named everyone in the Admin...
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry DAY 4
« Reply #53 on: November 20, 2019, 03:34:08 pm »
How many of these Sgt. Schultz (I know nothing) witnesses must we endure?

Like Ron White said "as many as it takes"
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« Reply #54 on: November 20, 2019, 03:34:22 pm »
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« Reply #55 on: November 20, 2019, 03:35:56 pm »
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#ICYMI: “Ambassador Sondland did not tell us, and certainly did not tell me, about a connection between the assistance and the investigations."

-Ukrainan Foreign Minister Vadym Prystaiko
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry DAY 4
« Reply #56 on: November 20, 2019, 03:37:40 pm »
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This ... isn't a good defense.

The White House never followed through! Now, what could be the reason for that?
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry DAY 4
« Reply #57 on: November 20, 2019, 03:38:06 pm »
I'll just leave this here for refreshment of memories of current events of the days in which this was transpiring.

ANALYSIS: What if Trump was right about Ukraine?

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/analysis-what-if-trump-was-right-about-ukraine

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« Reply #58 on: November 20, 2019, 03:39:13 pm »
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Republicans have been arguing that the President has the right to unilaterally set U.S. foreign policy. It is worth noting that he was withholding aid that was allocated by Congress, a co-equal branch of government, which, according to the Constitution, controls the purse strings
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« Reply #59 on: November 20, 2019, 03:39:55 pm »
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Counsel seems to be setting up an obstruction charge here (noting that the State Department didn't give Sondland access to documents).
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« Reply #60 on: November 20, 2019, 03:40:17 pm »
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~It was never about corruption~
SCHIFF: But he had to get those two investigations if that official act was going to take place, correct?

SONDLAND: He had to *announce* the investigations. *He didn't actually have to do them* as I understood it.
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« Reply #61 on: November 20, 2019, 03:40:21 pm »
Like Ron White said "as many as it takes"

Apparently so!   9999hair out0000
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« Reply #62 on: November 20, 2019, 03:42:22 pm »
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry DAY 4
« Reply #63 on: November 20, 2019, 03:42:45 pm »
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.@RepAdamSchiff tries to define a White House meeting as an "official act" so he can meet the elements of "bribery." It's ridiculous. If that's bribery, indict every Democrat and Republican donor who maxed out to get invited to the White House Christmas party. #ImpeachmentInquiry
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« Reply #64 on: November 20, 2019, 03:44:55 pm »
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Sondland never knew why there had been a hold on foreign aid to Ukraine. For him, it was all about a call and meeting between President Trump and President Zelensky.

It's important to point out that Sondland is drawing his own conclusions without direct evidence.

This is key.   There is nothing untoward about wanting a quid pro quo for a photo-op.    The issue that matters is (i) whether the military aid was held up and (ii) if it was,  whether it was legitimate to do so pending evidence that Ukraine was going to turn over a new leaf regarding corruption.    That's why we need to hear from Hunter Biden.   Ukraine has for years been a rat's nest of corruption, and the issue of such corruption seems (at least to me) far more important when the subject is lethal military aid as opposed to Obama's MREs and blankets.     
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry DAY 4
« Reply #65 on: November 20, 2019, 03:50:20 pm »
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Sondland is a traitorous bastard...
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« Reply #66 on: November 20, 2019, 03:52:21 pm »
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People should stop saying Trump wanted Ukraine to "dig up dirt" on Biden. He merely wanted the announcement of an investigation that could be used to imply dirt.
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« Reply #67 on: November 20, 2019, 03:52:59 pm »
This is key.   There is nothing untoward about wanting a quid pro quo for a photo-op.    The issue that matters is (i) whether the military aid was held up and (ii) if it was,  whether it was legitimate to do so pending evidence that Ukraine was going to turn over a new leaf regarding corruption.    That's why we need to hear from Hunter Biden.   Ukraine has for years been a rat's nest of corruption, and the issue of such corruption seems (at least to me) far more important when the subject is lethal military aid as opposed to Obama's MREs and blankets.   

Biden should testify. But given the nature of these hearings I would expect nothing to come of it. In spite of the evidence he'll say he performed a valuable service for his 80k/mo and had nothing to do with his dad being VP. The media will unquestioningly nod and attack anyone who expresses skepticism.

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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry DAY 4
« Reply #68 on: November 20, 2019, 03:53:07 pm »
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Some of the president’s closest allies have privately acknowledged this is going to be a bad day for them, with one senior level source reacting in real time that the testimony is “not great for Rudy."
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« Reply #69 on: November 20, 2019, 03:56:28 pm »
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Some of the president’s closest allies have privately acknowledged this is going to be a bad day for them, with one senior level source reacting in real time that the testimony is “not great for Rudy."

First off none of the 'president's closest allies' would have anything to do with the hucksters at ABC.

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« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2019, 03:57:59 pm »
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WHOA   Hard stop.

Gordon is now saying he never talked directly to Trump about the investigations??

#Gordoning  = bad memory, lying.
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« Reply #71 on: November 20, 2019, 03:58:07 pm »
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With Sondland's testimony, the Republicans, who have been claiming no quid pros and no linkages, are totally screwed....Oh, wait. They're just going to say none of this exists. Jeez, how could I forget?

That's funny/odd.   Because Sondland just told Demrat counsel that he never heard "those words" (ie any quid pro quo conditions) coming from Trump.   Kinda bolsters the GOP stance.   Another moronic and epic FAIL by the rats.  Ho hum.... this is getting tediously predictable.
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« Reply #72 on: November 20, 2019, 03:58:49 pm »
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"I never heard from President Trump that aid was conditioned on an announcement of elections." - Sondland
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« Reply #73 on: November 20, 2019, 03:59:40 pm »
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Sondland is a traitorous bastard...

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« Reply #74 on: November 20, 2019, 04:00:08 pm »
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Sondland: "President Trump never told me directly that the aid was conditioned on the meetings [he meant investigations]."

"My testimony is I've never heard from President Trump that the aid was conditioned on the investigations."


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