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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #150 on: November 13, 2019, 08:36:59 pm »
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Civil servants who want to determine US foreign policy should quit their jobs and run for national office. If they want foreign aid without strings attached, try campaigning on that stupid idea.

 :yowsa: But they have NEVER had to do that before!
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #151 on: November 13, 2019, 08:46:34 pm »
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After 5+ hours, the hearing is wrapping up with closing statements from Schiff and Nunes. Schiff says they'll dismiss the witnesses, take a brief recess and then vote on Mike Conaway's motion to subpoena the whistleblower for a closer-door deposition
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #152 on: November 13, 2019, 08:47:36 pm »
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Democrat Rep. Mike Quigley (IL) on evidence: "Hearsay can be much better evidence than direct ... and it's certainly valid in this instance"

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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #153 on: November 13, 2019, 08:53:49 pm »
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Coup leader Adam Schiff has a conflict of interest.  He lied about his contacts with anti-@RealDonaldTrump
 leaker and is misusing his position to stop any further inquiry into this scandal.  He should be under investigation, not leading the Intelligence Committee #StoptheCoup.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #154 on: November 13, 2019, 08:55:52 pm »
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After 5+ hours, the hearing is wrapping up with closing statements from Schiff and Nunes. Schiff says they'll dismiss the witnesses, take a brief recess and then vote on Mike Conaway's motion to subpoena the whistleblower for a closer-door deposition

The motion to table passed. No debate allowed.  End of story. and No Leakblower subpoena.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #155 on: November 13, 2019, 08:56:07 pm »
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@To All:

It was said many days ago the whistleblower spoke to an aide of the Intelligence Committee in order to know the process; which official he/she should go to with his/her information.  The whistleblower did not go to Schiff, only the aide.  Now, none of you will believe Schiff does not know the name, but it is possible he does not know - the whistleblower has three lawyers now, trying to keep the name from being public knowledge.  I think the whistle blower will be killed if the name is known.   There are over 300 million people in this country, and some are killers.  One name has been suggested as the whistle blower - would you want your name suggested with those over 300 million people thinking it is you? 
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #156 on: November 13, 2019, 08:56:47 pm »
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Coup leader Adam Schiff has a conflict of interest.  He lied about his contacts with anti-@RealDonaldTrump
 leaker and is misusing his position to stop any further inquiry into this scandal.  He should be under investigation, not leading the Intelligence Committee #StoptheCoup.

 :yowsa: Exactly right!
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #157 on: November 13, 2019, 09:07:56 pm »
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Coup leader Adam Schiff has a conflict of interest.  He lied about his contacts with anti-@RealDonaldTrump
 leaker and is misusing his position to stop any further inquiry into this scandal.  He should be under investigation, not leading the Intelligence Committee #StoptheCoup.

This farce will result in the rats losing the House next year. It'd be nice if Schiff was made to pay some price for his lies, but who knows.

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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #158 on: November 13, 2019, 09:09:16 pm »



WOW! Just wow!  NOW we know why the Dems are so damned upset!

Boies, Boies, where have I heard that name before?  Wasn't there a David Boies who filed a false affidavit in Dade County Florida on behalf of Algore in 2000?
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #159 on: November 13, 2019, 09:13:28 pm »
Boies, Boies, where have I heard that name before?  Wasn't there a David Boies who filed a false affidavit in Dade County Florida on behalf of Algore in 2000?

Bingo...

Boies Schiller Flexner LLP is a national law firm based in New York City. The firm was founded by David Boies and Jonathan D. Schiller in 1997, and in 1999, the founders were joined by Donald L. Flexner, former partner with Crowell & Moring, forming Boies, Schiller & Flexner.

The firm has become known for its involvement in high-profile litigation, having represented the Department of Justice in the antitrust action United States v. Microsoft, as well as Vice President Gore in the Supreme Court case Bush v. Gore. More recently, Boies successfully challenged the constitutionality of California's Proposition 8 in Perry v. Brown, and represented the National Football League in the antitrust litigation initiated by the players' union.[1] The firm has drawn controversy for its aggressive tactics during representation of Harvey Weinstein amidst sexual abuse allegations[2][3] and the now-defunct blood testing startup Theranos.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #160 on: November 13, 2019, 09:21:56 pm »
Ok, I have to ask:  Who are all these people tweeting?  I know a few such as Hannity and Ingraham, but most of the others I don't recognize.  And that makes me wary about believing what thy have to say about these hearings. 

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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #161 on: November 13, 2019, 10:03:24 pm »
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Democrat Rep. Mike Quigley (IL) on evidence: "Hearsay can be much better evidence than direct ... and it's certainly valid in this instance"

It is better to remain silent and have people suspect you to be a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #162 on: November 13, 2019, 10:05:31 pm »
Ok, I have to ask:  Who are all these people tweeting?  I know a few such as Hannity and Ingraham, but most of the others I don't recognize.  And that makes me wary about believing what thy have to say about these hearings.

I've been looking for Tweets from reporters with good reps to post here.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #163 on: November 13, 2019, 10:11:28 pm »
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Complaint Against David Boies and Mitchell Berger

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Amid the many legal matters in the State of Florida since November 7, 2000, regarding the 2000 Election, Respondent-Attorney Boies and Respondent-Attorney Berger, representing Vice President Albert A. Gore, reportedly offered an allegedly false affidavit in two separate trials. See Jan Crawford Greenburg & Dan Mihalopoulos, "Bush Turns Top U.S. Court; Republican Wants Florida's Manual Recounts Stopped; Illinois Case Offers Shaky Precedent," Chi. Trib., Nov. 23, 2000, at 1 (Exhibit B) [hereinafter "Greenberg & Mihalopoulos"]; see also Steve Miller, "Gore Lawyer's Ballot Affidavit was False," Wash. Times, Nov. 25, 2000, at A4 (Exhibit C) [hereinafter "Miller"]. The following excerpts from a November 23, 2000, Chicago Tribune article set forth the nature and the context of Respondent-Attorney Boies and Respondent-Attorney Berger's conduct:

A landmark Illinois Supreme Court ruling hailed by Vice President Al Gore's lawyers may not be the legal home run they believe will aid his quest to win Florida's 25 electoral votes and the White House, an analysis of the ruling shows.

Gore's lawyers focused on the Illinois ruling because the Florida Supreme Court quoted it at length Tuesday night [(November 21)] in its decision to allow manual recounts in selected counties to continue. The lawyers suggested that the mention of the Illinois case was a sweeping directive to count controversial "dimpled" ballots, in which ballots were indented but not punched through.

. . . But that Illinois case should not give Democrats any confidence that dented ballots will be counted in Gore's favor. That's because the Illinois court actually affirmed a trial judge's order to exclude dented ballots, since he had decided he could not reasonably determine the voters' will by examining the ballots. In fact, in the Illinois case, the dented ballots were not counted at all.

"The judge did not count ballots that were indented because he could not determine the voters' intent," said attorney Burton Odelson, who represented challenger Rosemary Mulligan in the 1990 case. "From the beginning, I knew everybody [in Florida] was interpreting this case wrong and reading into it what they wanted to read into it."

. . . Late Tuesday [(November 21)], the Gore legal team pressed the issue further, asking a Cook County attorney involved in the Illinois case to sign an affidavit saying that dented ballots were ultimately approved in the Illinois case. The affidavit the attorney signed Wednesday [(November 22)] apparently was mistaken in its assertion that such ballots were counted.

https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/complaint-against-david-boies-and-mitchell-berger




Boies should have been disbarred.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #164 on: November 13, 2019, 10:28:19 pm »



Boies should have been disbarred.

 :amen:  The swamp is very deep and wide and the critters therein have some very long tentacles.
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #165 on: November 13, 2019, 10:31:24 pm »
I've been looking for Tweets from reporters with good reps to post here.

You bastard.   I just spit my beer out.  You are a funny man. 
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #166 on: November 13, 2019, 10:36:25 pm »
You bastard.   I just spit my beer out.  You are a funny man.

I got hired at at TV station once, for comedy relief.
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« Reply #167 on: November 13, 2019, 10:40:07 pm »
I got hired at at TV station once, for comedy relief.

Mr. Warmth!  lol   888high58888
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #168 on: November 14, 2019, 12:31:39 am »
Female caller on C-Span right before the hearing opened claimed that the released transcript wasn't the actual transcript of the call, it was just a "memo".   Where do these morons get this BS?  (rhetorical)
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They get it from the facts.  It's an edited partial transcript.


See the title?

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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #169 on: November 14, 2019, 12:35:34 am »
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You can't impeach a President because he:

- Won the election.

- Invaded your safe space.

- Built a wall.

- Fixed the economy.

- Exposes the fake news media.

- Asked a foreign leader to investigate corruption.

So close.  It turns out you can be impeached if you "asked a foreign leader to investigate corruption."

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« Reply #170 on: November 14, 2019, 12:37:36 am »
So close.  It turns out you can be impeached if you "asked a foreign leader to investigate corruption."

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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #171 on: November 14, 2019, 12:58:37 am »
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Only in the Bizarro World of Dims.

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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #172 on: November 14, 2019, 12:58:57 am »
@XenaLee
They get it from the facts.  It's an edited partial transcript.


See the title?

Lol!   Are you being obtuse?   It's THE transcript of the call.  Or are you, like the moronic caller today, also implying that "pertinent parts" of the conversation were left out or edited out?   Really???

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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #173 on: November 14, 2019, 01:11:26 am »
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@To All:

It was said many days ago the whistleblower spoke to an aide of the Intelligence Committee in order to know the process; which official he/she should go to with his/her information.  The whistleblower did not go to Schiff, only the aide.  Now, none of you will believe Schiff does not know the name, but it is possible he does not know - the whistleblower has three lawyers now, trying to keep the name from being public knowledge.  I think the whistle blower will be killed if the name is known.   There are over 300 million people in this country, and some are killers.  One name has been suggested as the whistle blower - would you want your name suggested with those over 300 million people thinking it is you?
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Re: LIVE THREAD: Impeachment Inquiry
« Reply #174 on: November 14, 2019, 01:13:26 am »
@Once-Ler

Only in the Bizarro World of Dims.
No in the real world where Trump gets impeached.