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Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« on: November 07, 2019, 02:33:38 pm »
Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
By Alexander Bolton - 11/07/19 06:00 AM EST

Senate Republicans are warning that this week’s Democratic victories in Kentucky, Virginia and Pennsylvania should serve as a “wake-up call” for President Trump and the rest of the GOP heading into 2020.

While some Republican lawmakers have tried to minimize Tuesday’s election results, chalking the apparent loss in Kentucky’s gubernatorial race to the unpopularity of Matt Bevin, the GOP incumbent, others say it’s time for a course correction.


Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said the poor performance of Republican candidates in suburban areas should spur Trump to reflect on his often-pugnacious style and tone, which has a tendency to turn off women voters in swing suburban districts.

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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2019, 02:34:53 pm »
Virginia's lost.  Don't waste time on this state.

POTUS has Pennsylvania.

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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2019, 02:41:50 pm »
Of course The Hill and the left would rather Trump put down his dukes so they can punch him at will.

I've watched they guy for three years now, his tone has gotten much better since 2015. Except towards the MSM, which probably explains the constant whining about his 'pugnacious style'.

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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2019, 03:24:30 pm »
They will never listen.  The elephant can be standing in the room and they will pretend it doesn't exist.  I pray that a third party candidate worth voting for steps up.  Republicans will defend the president until it no longer exists.
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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2019, 03:26:45 pm »

POTUS has Pennsylvania.

Unfortunately, I fear you're wrong.   The Philly suburbs just turned solid blue, for the first time ever.   
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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2019, 03:30:16 pm »
Unfortunately, I fear you're wrong.   The Philly suburbs just turned solid blue, for the first time ever.

And Pittsburgh’s gotten redder. Call it a wash.

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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2019, 03:33:22 pm »
They will never listen.  The elephant can be standing in the room and they will pretend it doesn't exist.  I pray that a third party candidate worth voting for steps up.  Republicans will defend the president until it no longer exists.
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Three Republicans running for President:
Mark Sanford was Governor of South Carolina.  Joe Walsh former US House Representative and conservative radio program now, and Bill Wald was Governor of Mass.  Below is a debate between them, the debate held by Forbes.

https://www.joewalsh.org/the_forbes_under_30_summit_presidential_debate_the_republicans_taking_on_trump
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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2019, 03:50:35 pm »


Three Republicans running for President:
Mark Sanford was Governor of South Carolina.  Joe Walsh former US House Representative and conservative radio program now, and Bill Wald was Governor of Mass.  Below is a debate between them, the debate held by Forbes.

https://www.joewalsh.org/the_forbes_under_30_summit_presidential_debate_the_republicans_taking_on_trump

Yes, we have choices.  Thanks, @Victoria33 , for posting this. 
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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2019, 04:11:52 pm »
Google Mark Sanford, Joe Walsh, Bill Weld. Then get back to us about choices.

Trump/Pence 2020. In your heart you know the right choice for Americans.

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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2019, 04:20:31 pm »
Yes, we have choices.  Thanks, @Victoria33 , for posting this.

I'm afraid you are drawing the wrong conclusions from the current political trends, JH.

The ground has shifted and there'll be no going back.

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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2019, 04:25:55 pm »
I'm afraid you are drawing the wrong conclusions from the current political trends, JH.

The ground has shifted and there'll be no going back.

What was the good news for Republicans from last Tuesday that I missed?   
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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2019, 04:57:36 pm »
Google Mark Sanford, Joe Walsh, Bill Weld. Then get back to us about choices.

Trump/Pence 2020. In your heart you know the right choice for Americans.

They missed Evan McMuffin, Justin Amash, Jeff Flake, possibly Milt "Sonora" Romminey.

That is seven so-called "Republican" names.

The "Seven Drarfs"

Oh, wait. It may not be just that simple.

Whatever-happened to John Kasich?

Bettercheck the latest articles by Bill Kristol, George Will, etc.

Don't forget about John Dean. He could run for President, too.

Almost everybody else is.

I still feel for the time, the dem-socialists have the "crazy old man" market cornered, but not by much.

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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2019, 05:07:02 pm »
This isn't a wake-up call for Trump.  It is a wake-up call for a GOP that gave us $2 trillion deficits and a continuation of Obamacare.
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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2019, 05:12:18 pm »
Yes, we have choices.  Thanks, @Victoria33 , for posting this.

Sure we always have choices; whether or not they are viable choices who could actually win is another thing.  First of all they have to qualify or get on the ballot in all 50 states.  That's the first hurdle.  The second hurdle is $$$. 
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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2019, 05:13:31 pm »
This isn't a wake-up call for Trump.  It is a wake-up call for a GOP that gave us $2 trillion deficits and a continuation of Obamacare.

At the end of the day though it does affect Trump's re-election.
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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2019, 05:22:31 pm »
What was the good news for Republicans from last Tuesday that I missed?

Thats not the question.

The question is what do you hope to gain by running the same old GOP crap offered by guys like Sanford and Weld?

You see everything as Trump's fault. I'm suggesting the problem might be a bit more nuanced, if not downright inconvenient to your worldview. The GOP as a whole had better think about that.

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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2019, 05:34:22 pm »
Thats not the question.

The question is what do you hope to gain by running the same old GOP crap offered by guys like Sanford and Weld?

You see everything as Trump's fault. I'm suggesting the problem might be a bit more nuanced, if not downright inconvenient to your worldview. The GOP as a whole had better think about that.

Trump pulled back the curtain on the lies and the corruption. So they can’t erase what we’ve seen revealed about official Washington.

The political establishment won’t be the same, due to one man—Trump.

The winning never stops.

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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2019, 05:37:42 pm »
Trump pulled back the curtain on the lies and the corruption. So they can’t erase what we’ve seen revealed about official Washington.

The political establishment won’t be the same, due to one man—Trump.

The winning never stops.

IMO if the GOP had stepped up in general and energetically defended the man instead of creeping about in the tall grass waiting for the danger to pass, or worse, waiting for the rats to take him out, I imagine we'd be looking at a much different political picture today.
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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2019, 06:13:17 pm »
Unfortunately, I fear you're wrong.   The Philly suburbs just turned solid blue, for the first time ever.

Where's your link @Jazzhead 




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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2019, 06:15:30 pm »
What was the good news for Republicans from last Tuesday that I missed?

We won 13 elections ... thanks in part to the President's coattails.  We're about to win more in Louisiana.


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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2019, 06:18:00 pm »
They will never listen.  The elephant can be standing in the room and they will pretend it doesn't exist.  I pray that a third party candidate worth voting for steps up.  Republicans will defend the president until it no longer exists.

Here's what happens when you go third part @Chosen Daughter   http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,381646.0.html

Are you saying you want the socialists to win?





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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2019, 06:18:04 pm »
We won 13 elections ... thanks in part to the President's coattails.  We're about to win more in Louisiana.



Thanks for the info.
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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2019, 06:20:56 pm »
Here's what happens when you go third part @Chosen Daughter   http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,381646.0.html

Are you saying you want the socialists to win?

Which ones? The Democrat ones or the Republican ones?

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Re: Republicans warn election results are 'wake-up call' for Trump
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2019, 06:25:32 pm »
@Jazzhead here is the grim reality of a third party win.


..........bad news. It’s not going to happen. In the last week, several political commentators have offered reasons why, including The New Republic’s Jeet Heer, who wrote that “any renegade Republican who challenges Trump would feel the wrath of the right-wing noise machine.” But the structural barriers at play here are perhaps even more important for explaining why such a presidential bid isn’t going to materialize. First, the rules are rigged against any new political party getting ballot lines in all 50 states in time for 2020. Second, there’s no mass movement searching for a new party vehicle. And third, the idea of a self-financing billionaire popular enough to get around obstacles one and two is a contradiction in terms.

It wasn’t always like this. There was a time in American politics when it was relatively easy to jump-start a new political party and get it into the mainstream. That was how the Republican Party—the only third party in American history to become a major party—displaced the Whigs (along with several smaller parties) between 1854, when it was founded, and 1860, when it propelled Abraham Lincoln to the presidency.

It took three things to create a party back then: people, money, and ballots. Parties were responsible not only for recruiting and nominating candidates for office, but they also printed and distributed their own ballots (typically with the help of partisan newspaper publishers). Thus, there were very few barriers to entry: Candidates didn’t have to petition to appear on a ballot, and new parties were free to endorse candidates from the more major parties, so their nominees ran less risk of being labeled spoilers. Essentially, parties could contest for power just as soon as they had backers and supporters. This was what happened to the Liberty and Free Soil parties in the nineteenth century: Starting in the mid-1840s, as the two dominant parties—the Whigs and Democrats—hewed to the pro-slavery forces in their ranks, these new formations sprouted quickly and began gathering anti-slavery advocates.

In 1848, Free Soil nominated former President Martin van Buren after the Whigs supported slave owner Zachary Taylor for president, and got 10 percent of the national vote. Crucially, they were able to do this after the Whig convention that summer because there were no legal obstacles to getting him on the ballot. Six years later, in July 1854, the Republican Party held its first convention and swept the Michigan statehouse and executive branch that very same year. By 1856, its presidential candidate John Fremont won a third of the popular vote and 114 electoral votes.

That’s no longer possible: Today, third parties can’t mount their own presidential bids after they learn whom the two major parties have nominated—there simply isn’t enough time between the end of primary season and the general election to gain meaningful ballot access in enough states to win an Electoral College victory. Evan McMullin, the former CIA operative who ran for President in 2016 as an anti-Trump alternative to Hillary Clinton, was only able to get on the ballot in 11 states because he entered the race so late. It would’ve been easier in the 1800s: McMullin wouldn’t have had to collect millions of petition signatures and hire expensive lawyers to get on the ballot. ..............

..............Here’s the underlying problem: the ballot, which was once the property of voters organically organizing themselves into parties, has become the property of state legislatures dominated by the two major parties. The introduction of uniform, printed state ballots—a reform of the late 1800s intended to quash the buying and selling of individual votes—also gave legislatures the power to determine who was qualified to be on the ballot. Republican and Democrat-controlled legislatures swiftly learned that they could use this power to smother rising third parties like the Populist Party, and gave themselves automatic lines on the ballot while instituting onerous petitioning requirements to hinder other upstarts. (When political scientists argue that the first-past-the-post system of awarding representation invariably forces voters into a two-party duopoly, they forget to note that it’s only when ballot lines are so rigidly guarded that two specific parties, in this case the Ds and the Rs, manage to artificially lock themselves in power.)...............

https://newrepublic.com/article/146884/america-stuck-two-parties
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Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.