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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #25 on: October 30, 2019, 04:59:09 pm »
Imagine a country with an impartial mainstream media & public educational system - an AOC would be considered a political freak, if one would be possible at all.

In terms of human nature, the leftwing movement in this country isn't innate, its an illusion. It will succeed only to a point then there will be a reckoning.

An illusion created by indoctrination from kindergarten through university. Until we get proper education in history and civics class, socialism will continue to metastasize like the cancer it is.

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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #26 on: October 30, 2019, 05:25:21 pm »
Thank you for showing to everyone here you have zero knowledge of why the vote is necessary and how the impeachment process works and that you’re only capable of repeating Progressive talking points.

Why is the vote necessary? Is it because we're moving forward with the process?
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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #27 on: October 30, 2019, 05:34:32 pm »
Why is the vote necessary? Is it because we're moving forward with the process?

"The House of Representatives ... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

— Article I, Section 2, Clause 5

The House of Representatives consists of much more than Mr. Shiff's committee.
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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #28 on: October 30, 2019, 05:46:54 pm »
"The House of Representatives ... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment."

— Article I, Section 2, Clause 5

The House of Representatives consists of much more than Mr. Shiff's committee.

This isn't a vote on impeachment, though. That comes later
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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #29 on: October 30, 2019, 05:52:30 pm »
This isn't a vote on impeachment, though. That comes later

It's being dressed up like it is, in case you hadn't noticed.  You are stating the obvious.
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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2019, 06:00:00 pm »
It's being dressed up like it is, in case you hadn't noticed.  You are stating the obvious.

No it isn't. It's being dressed up as  Nancy Polosi caving to the Reps that claimed the inquiry wasn't following the rules.

We know this isn't the vote for impeachment because they haven't even layed out the Articles yet
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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2019, 06:30:20 pm »
No it isn't. It's being dressed up as  Nancy Polosi caving to the Reps that claimed the inquiry wasn't following the rules.

We know this isn't the vote for impeachment because they haven't even layed out the Articles yet

Have you seen the proposed "rules?"  They are an affirmation of what Schitt's already doing.  It's back fill, and it's bullshit, too.  A waste of time that the Rats aren't even sure they have the votes for.

Look, I appreciate what you are trying to do, and it's not impressing anybody.  If you are looking for agreement, you're searching all the wrong places.
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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2019, 07:50:15 pm »
No it isn't. It's being dressed up as  Nancy Polosi caving to the Reps that claimed the inquiry wasn't following the rules.

We know this isn't the vote for impeachment because they haven't even layed out the Articles yet

Irrelevant. To busy Americans, media headlines and breaking news sets Pelosi’s narrative—not Pelosi; and the news is all about impeaching Trump 24/7.

Also in case you didn’t know this: journalism’s dead. The media today is simply the stenography pool for the DNC’s antiTrump vendetta for beating their candidate, and act as apologists for top ranking Intel agents who attempted a coup of President Trump.

BTW (hope I’m not giving away any secrets), whispering...voters are beginning to notice.

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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2019, 07:51:49 pm »
Why is the vote necessary? Is it because we're moving forward with the process?

No.  The Dems aren't moving forward with the "process"...they are running this alleged inquiry like a Russian show trial.

Here is why the vote is necessary.

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Impeachment proceedings may be requested by a member of the House of Representatives on his or her own initiative, either by presenting a list of the charges under oath or by asking for referral to the appropriate committee. The impeachment process may be requested by non-members. For example, when the Judicial Conference of the United States suggests a federal judge be impeached, a charge of actions constituting grounds for impeachment may come from a special prosecutor, the President, or state or territorial legislature, grand jury, or by petition. An impeachment proceeding formally begins with a resolution adopted by the full House of Representatives, which typically includes a referral to a House committee.

The type of impeachment resolution determines the committee to which it is referred. A resolution impeaching a particular individual is typically referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary. A resolution to authorize an investigation regarding impeachable conduct is referred to the House Committee on Rules, and then to the Judiciary Committee. The House Committee on the Judiciary, by majority vote, will determine whether grounds for impeachment exist (this vote is not law and is not required, US Constitution and US law). If the Committee finds grounds for impeachment, it will set forth specific allegations of misconduct in one or more articles of impeachment. The Impeachment Resolution, or Articles of Impeachment, are then reported to the full House with the committee's recommendations.

The House debates the resolution and may at the conclusion consider the resolution as a whole or vote on each article of impeachment individually. A simple majority of those present and voting is required for each article for the resolution as a whole to pass. If the House votes to impeach, managers (typically referred to as "House managers", with a "lead House manager") are selected to present the case to the Senate. Recently, managers have been selected by resolution, while historically the House would occasionally elect the managers or pass a resolution allowing the appointment of managers at the discretion of the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives. These managers are roughly the equivalent of the prosecution or district attorney in a standard criminal trial. Also, the House will adopt a resolution in order to notify the Senate of its action. After receiving the notice, the Senate will adopt an order notifying the House that it is ready to receive the managers. The House managers then appear before the bar of the Senate and exhibit the articles of impeachment. After the reading of the charges, the managers return and make a verbal report to the House.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States


None of what is quoted above has been done to this point and even Pelosi's resolution that might or might not be voted on tomorrow doesn't cover any of this.

There's this thing called "due process" that even the President is entitled to despite what you Progressives might think.

And so far with all the secret Star Chamber closed door bullshit being done by your fellow Libs none of that is happening.

The proper House committee isn't even in charge of any of this.

That is why the vote is necessary.  And it's why Pelosi has dodged it and continues to dodge it because she knows they don't have the votes in the full House for a formal vote on impeachment.
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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #34 on: October 30, 2019, 08:06:31 pm »
No.  The Dems aren't moving forward with the "process"...they are running this alleged inquiry like a Russian show trial.

Here is why the vote is necessary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States


None of what is quoted above has been done to this point and even Pelosi's resolution that might or might not be voted on tomorrow doesn't cover any of this.

There's this thing called "due process" that even the President is entitled to despite what you Progressives might think.

And so far with all the secret Star Chamber closed door bullshit being done by your fellow Libs none of that is happening.

The proper House committee isn't even in charge of any of this.

That is why the vote is necessary.  And it's why Pelosi has dodged it and continues to dodge it because she knows they don't have the votes in the full House for a formal vote on impeachment.

From the Wiki link:

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The type of impeachment resolution determines the committee to which it is referred. A resolution impeaching a particular individual is typically referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary. A resolution to authorize an investigation regarding impeachable conduct is referred to the House Committee on Rules, and then to the Judiciary Committee. The House Committee on the Judiciary, by majority vote, will determine whether grounds for impeachment exist (this vote is not law and is not required, US Constitution and US law). If the Committee finds grounds for impeachment, it will set forth specific allegations of misconduct in one or more articles of impeachment. The Impeachment Resolution, or Articles of Impeachment, are then reported to the full House with the committee's recommendations.

It's the Rats' hard luck Nadler proved to be so inept at spinning questions, and having his ass handed to him by Candace Owens....they had to go with Schitt, even if it's the wrong committee.
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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #35 on: October 30, 2019, 08:17:59 pm »
From the Wiki link:

It's the Rats' hard luck Nadler proved to be so inept at spinning questions, and having his ass handed to him by Candace Owens....they had to go with Schitt, even if it's the wrong committee.

Schitt is a evil Fascist...ruthless enough to do exactly what we see unfolding before us while giving procedure and the Constitution the middle finger.  With him it's means to an end in how he's treating this phony "inquiry".

Jabba the Nadler is just an old Liberal who is trying to hold on to his seat because he's being challenged from the left for his seat by 4 people..including IIRC a couple of AOC type "justice" Democrats.
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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #36 on: October 30, 2019, 08:25:40 pm »
From the Wiki link:

It's the Rats' hard luck Nadler proved to be so inept at spinning questions, and having his ass handed to him by Candace Owens....they had to go with Schitt, even if it's the wrong committee.

I think that the hearing that knocked old Nadler down a few pegs in Nancy's eyes was the Corey Lewandowski hearing.... he pretty much made monkeys of them....

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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #37 on: October 30, 2019, 08:28:15 pm »
Schitt is a evil Fascist...ruthless enough to do exactly what we see unfolding before us while giving procedure and the Constitution the middle finger.  With him it's means to an end in how he's treating this phony "inquiry".

Jabba the Nadler is just an old Liberal who is trying to hold on to his seat because he's being challenged from the left for his seat by 4 people..including IIRC a couple of AOC type "justice" Democrats.

I think Schitt is a lot smarter than old Jerry.  A lot.  I never though much about Nads over the years, other than that he's a far-left NY pol who's fat.  He really proved what a dim bulb he is during his latest stint as Chairman under Pelosi during Trump.  Was he a Chair before?
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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #38 on: October 30, 2019, 08:31:03 pm »
I think that the hearing that knocked old Nadler down a few pegs in Nancy's eyes was the Corey Lewandowski hearing.... he pretty much made monkeys of them....

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Yes, that one too.  Honorable Mention goes to Mad Maxine Waters of the Banking Committee for her interrogation of the bank execs over Student Loans.  Dimon tore her into little, bitty pieces.
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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #39 on: October 30, 2019, 08:41:16 pm »
I think that the hearing that knocked old Nadler down a few pegs in Nancy's eyes was the Corey Lewandowski hearing.... he pretty much made monkeys of them....

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No kidding. A liberal buddy of mine was still in a purple faced apoplectic rage the day after Lewandowski's testimony. I definitely want more of that.

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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #40 on: October 30, 2019, 08:43:15 pm »
I think Schitt is a lot smarter than old Jerry.  A lot.  I never though much about Nads over the years, other than that he's a far-left NY pol who's fat.  He really proved what a dim bulb he is during his latest stint as Chairman under Pelosi during Trump.  Was he a Chair before?

Nope this is the first time he's been the chairman on any committee.
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« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2019, 08:48:53 pm »
Nope this is the first time he's been the chairman on any committee.

Doesn't that seem a little odd?  He's been in Congress for a long time.  Maybe he had the misfortune of serving on Committees with long, long term Reps as Chairs?
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« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2019, 08:59:56 pm »
Doesn't that seem a little odd?  He's been in Congress for a long time.  Maybe he had the misfortune of serving on Committees with long, long term Reps as Chairs?

Well there's a pecking order to the seniority of House members.  He's 21st in seniority in the House.  Which is frightening since he's been there since 1992.  This looks like his first shot at a chairmanship.

I remember him being a vocal supporter of Billy Jeff when he was impeached and was a big proponent of impeaching W and Dick Cheney.
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« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2019, 09:01:57 pm »
Well there's a pecking order to the seniority of House members.  He's 21st in seniority in the House.  Which is frightening since he's been there since 1992.  This looks like his first shot at a chairmanship.

I remember him being a vocal supporter of Billy Jeff when he was impeached and was a big proponent of impeaching W and Dick Cheney.

Yeah, I remember him as one of the Hyenas, too.
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Re: READ: House Democratic resolution formalizing Trump impeachment inquiry
« Reply #44 on: October 31, 2019, 07:41:41 am »
By the weariness in the President's eyes.

Yeah, it's the President who's showing signs of weariness.    :laugh: