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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #150 on: September 05, 2019, 07:19:03 pm »
Never Trump Nitwits:

Bill Weld
Fake Deason (aka Sinkspur)
Justin Amash
Cripplecreek
BillKristol
GeronL
MarkSanford
Onceler
John Kasich
Invar
Joe Walsh

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You forgot Evan McMuffin!!

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #151 on: September 05, 2019, 07:20:23 pm »
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Reflective, to your credit!
We have become increasingly angry and agitated which all
portals of the media, including the internet, reflect. But why?
Because the media want our attention in order to peddle their
crap and they obtain it by making noise, the louder the better;
the effect being to further coarsen our culture.

Consider the attitudes, behaviors and sentiments that currently
appear in our daily lives, constantly broadcast by the media.
In what other place and time, beginning w/Eden, were such
behaviors and sentiments tolerated???

There is a reason that it is called Outrage Porn!!

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #152 on: September 05, 2019, 07:22:19 pm »
@EdJames


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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #153 on: September 05, 2019, 07:23:21 pm »
Nice!  I've been there and have the tee-shirt to prove it.

Good Lord, you've ventured all the way up into Massachusetts!!

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #154 on: September 05, 2019, 07:25:07 pm »
I'll have a nice slice of the Big Green Monster, please!

Just be careful of those metal plates that they still use for that scoreboard.....  they'll chip your teeth and slice your gums big time....

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #155 on: September 05, 2019, 07:25:44 pm »
You forgot Evan McMuffin!!

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #156 on: September 05, 2019, 07:33:14 pm »
Good Lord, you've ventured all the way up into Massachusetts!!

I like Boston a lot.  Nice town. 

And, I lived briefly in the frozen NW, New Hampshire to be exact.  Pleasant in the summer, as short as that is.

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #157 on: September 05, 2019, 07:55:46 pm »
When I took the moniker of "NeverTrumper" it meant I stood solid for Christian conservative values (I could care less how Sink takes that)... now this article (and numerous ones before it) have redefined the term to something that does not represent me. Folks that would vote democrat just to spite Trump are not representative of myself. I want a new term or for the press to stop hijacking the term to radicalize it. Since I doubt the term can be reformed back to it's original intent (not to representing turncoats that spit at an resemblance to conservatism by voting for progressive nuts), I just need to find a better term (probable a phrase until then). Perhaps "Principled Christian Conservative" (again I could care less what Sink thinks)...

As mentioned before, I couldn't and didn't vote for McCain and Romney (and now you can't find many that openly admit to gleefully voting for them in the first place)... I guess I was never before never became a thing. But never was I so bitter I would vote for a godless democrat.

I accept that my relationship with the Lord steers my vote, but I accept that "the line in the sand" for me is not exactly what others see. I just hope they have a line now days. The left certainly has proved most of their lines are just arrows directed toward folks like myself. Politically I will continue to cheer when I think Trump does something right, and boo heartily when he doesn't. Others may rightfully point out I do one better than the other, and they would probable be right. But I am what I am. 
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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #158 on: September 05, 2019, 07:58:25 pm »
Mrs. McMuffin often forgets Evan McMuffin.

Can you blame her?


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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #159 on: September 05, 2019, 08:01:35 pm »
When I took the moniker of "NeverTrumper" it meant I stood solid for Christian conservative values (I could care less how Sink takes that)... now this article (and numerous ones before it) have redefined the term to something that does not represent me. Folks that would vote democrat just to spite Trump are not representative of myself. I want a new term or for the press to stop hijacking the term to radicalize it. Since I doubt the term can be reformed back to it's original intent (not to representing turncoats that spit at an resemblance to conservatism by voting for progressive nuts), I just need to find a better term (probable a phrase until then). Perhaps "Principled Christian Conservative" (again I could care less what Sink thinks)...

As mentioned before, I couldn't and didn't vote for McCain and Romney (and now you can't find many that openly admit to gleefully voting for them in the first place)... I guess I was never before never became a thing. But never was I so bitter I would vote for a godless democrat.

I accept that my relationship with the Lord steers my vote, but I accept that "the line in the sand" for me is not exactly what others see. I just hope they have a line now days. The left certainly has proved most of their lines are just arrows directed toward folks like myself. Politically I will continue to cheer when I think Trump does something right, and boo heartily when he doesn't. Others may rightfully point out I do one better than the other, and they would probable be right. But I am what I am.

Good post, @Sighlass
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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #160 on: September 05, 2019, 08:04:31 pm »
I'll have a nice slice of the Big Green Monster, please!
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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #161 on: September 05, 2019, 08:04:40 pm »
I like Boston a lot.  Nice town. 

And, I lived briefly in the frozen NW, New Hampshire to be exact.  Pleasant in the summer, as short as that is.

I am not fond of Boston....  the last time I was up there in the summer of 1978 they had a thermal inversion and you started coughing and wheezing just trying to walk down the block...

I like to visit New England states, I just avoid the cities....  one of my favorite areas is the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont....


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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #162 on: September 05, 2019, 08:06:39 pm »
@Cyber Liberty
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With or without whipped cream?  wink777

You need to ask???   :yowsa:
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #163 on: September 05, 2019, 08:10:01 pm »
I am not fond of Boston....  the last time I was up there in the summer of 1978 they had a thermal inversion and you started coughing and wheezing just trying to walk down the block...

I like to visit New England states, I just avoid the cities....  one of my favorite areas is the Northeast Kingdom of Vermont....




That is a spectacular photo!

I usually avoid cities too, but I liked Boston.  Maybe it was because I flew in from Dallas. 

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #164 on: September 05, 2019, 08:13:22 pm »


I will not forget the scum's political PAC bought half a million dollars worth of ads against Roy Moore..  What the heck was a Utah fellow doing meddling in an Alabama election? It was not like the rest of the world wasn't doing their part for him.

Off subject... you may now return to your regularly scheduled duels. I be over at the music threads if you need me.
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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #165 on: September 05, 2019, 08:18:12 pm »
I will not forget the scum's political PAC bought half a million dollars worth of ads against Roy Moore..  What the heck was a Utah fellow doing meddling in an Alabama election? It was not like the rest of the world wasn't doing their part for him.

Off subject... you may now return to your regularly scheduled duels. I be over at the music threads if you need me.

It is because his ilk do not represent the citizens of Utah.....  nor the rest of the United States.....

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #166 on: September 05, 2019, 08:34:45 pm »
In fairness, "Trump supporters" are often grouped into one category when that is not the situation at all.

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Re: NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
« Reply #167 on: September 05, 2019, 08:52:08 pm »
I will not forget the scum's political PAC bought half a million dollars worth of ads against Roy Moore..  What the heck was a Utah fellow doing meddling in an Alabama election? It was not like the rest of the world wasn't doing their part for him.
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Long, long, long before the advent of Roy Moore, we knew a U.S. Senator represented broader state interests than the far more localised interests represented by members of the House, since a state sends only two people to the Senate; and, long before Moore, political parties and interest groups took bigger interest in Senate elections (once the election of the Senate was taken away from state legislatures) because they did have broader national and even international implications than House elections generally did. There was always out-of-state money pouring into one or another Senate campaign on behalf of assorted parties or interests with their eyes on those implications, after the Seventeenth Amendment threw the election of Senators out of the state legislatures and into the general elections. It didn't begin and won't end with Moore.

One of the most once-famous examples I can recall: the re-election campaign of Maine senator Owen Brewster (Republican) in 1952. Brewster faced a GOP primary challenge from Maine governor Frederick C. Payne, who was barely known outside their home state but who turned out to have an unexpected and powerful cross-country patron: Howard Hughes.

Of all the cliches anyone's ever heard about Hughes, one of the truest is that he never forgot an enemy. And in 1952 he was still steamed over Brewster having chaired the fabled Senate hearings into Hughes Aircraft's wartime contracts and concurrent activities, especially when it turned out that Brewster had a particular reason to try taking Hughes down---Brewster was in the hip pocket of Pan American World Airways mastermind Juan Trippe.

Brewster was the major Senate patron for a bill that, had it survived, would have frozen Hughes's Trans World Airlines and other American carriers out of international travel by designating Pan Am the sole legal, official American international airline. Hughes even smelled a Pan Am rat as he prepared to testify before the Brewster hearings: it turned out that what was first dismissed as typical Hughes paranoia was right---Hughes's Washington hotel suite and that of his aide Noah Dietrich, as they prepared for Hughes's testimony, were bugged by Brewster and Trippe.

(Hughes first tried a clever stalling tactic while he gathered information on Brewster's hearings plan: he actually opened talks with Trippe about merging Pan Am and TWA. Trippe fell for it hook, line, and stinker, believing it was nothing more than talking merger between two great airlines, until Hughes broke the talks off on the threshold of the hearings having gathered everything he needed for that side of his defense.)

Hughes prevailed at the hearings, of course; in one of the great ironies of life, Hughes the billionaire actually came across as the little guy who fought City Hall and won. And he waited for his shot at revenge against Brewster, who once had ambitions toward the vice presidency until the Hughes hearings pretty much torpedoed those. When Hughes learned Payne was considering a primary challenge to Brewster, Hughes, according to Dietrich (in Dietrich's memoir Howard: The Amazing Mr. Hughes), ordered his people, "Give Payne whatever the hell he needs, and forget the cost." The Payne campaign was infused with $60,000 worth of Hughes money, big money in that time and place, not to mention fully detailed documentation of Brewster's shenanigans involving the Pan Am bill. Payne flattened Brewster in the primary, and Brewster actually resigned his seat in December 1952.

Payne's Senate career lasted only one term and is probably remembered best for two things: 1) His support for a bill that would have outlawed switchblade knives, the bill sponsors thinking it would end gang violence, but when the bill finally became law in 1958 it had the opposite effect: the gangs turned to firearms. 2) His successor representing Maine in the Senate---future vice presidential running mate and presidential candidate Edmund Muskie.

Then, again, it's entirely possible that, if the Seventeenth Amendment had never come to pass, Roy Moore might not even have become a topic in the first place.
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« Reply #168 on: September 05, 2019, 09:34:46 pm »
@Sighlass
Long, long, long before the advent of Roy Moore, we knew a U.S. Senator represented broader state interests than the far more localised interests represented by members of the House, since a state sends only two people to the Senate; and, long before Moore, political parties and interest groups took bigger interest in Senate elections (once the election of the Senate was taken away from state legislatures) because they did have broader national and even international implications than House elections generally did. There was always out-of-state money pouring into one or another Senate campaign on behalf of assorted parties or interests with their eyes on those implications, after the Seventeenth Amendment threw the election of Senators out of the state legislatures and into the general elections. It didn't begin and won't end with Moore.

One of the most once-famous examples I can recall: the re-election campaign of Maine senator Owen Brewster (Republican) in 1952. Brewster faced a GOP primary challenge from Maine governor Frederick C. Payne, who was barely known outside their home state but who turned out to have an unexpected and powerful cross-country patron: Howard Hughes.

Of all the cliches anyone's ever heard about Hughes, one of the truest is that he never forgot an enemy. And in 1952 he was still steamed over Brewster having chaired the fabled Senate hearings into Hughes Aircraft's wartime contracts and concurrent activities, especially when it turned out that Brewster had a particular reason to try taking Hughes down---Brewster was in the hip pocket of Pan American World Airways mastermind Juan Trippe.

Brewster was the major Senate patron for a bill that, had it survived, would have frozen Hughes's Trans World Airlines and other American carriers out of international travel by designating Pan Am the sole legal, official American international airline. Hughes even smelled a Pan Am rat as he prepared to testify before the Brewster hearings: it turned out that what was first dismissed as typical Hughes paranoia was right---Hughes's Washington hotel suite and that of his aide Noah Dietrich, as they prepared for Hughes's testimony, were bugged by Brewster and Trippe.

(Hughes first tried a clever stalling tactic while he gathered information on Brewster's hearings plan: he actually opened talks with Trippe about merging Pan Am and TWA. Trippe fell for it hook, line, and stinker, believing it was nothing more than talking merger between two great airlines, until Hughes broke the talks off on the threshold of the hearings having gathered everything he needed for that side of his defense.)

Hughes prevailed at the hearings, of course; in one of the great ironies of life, Hughes the billionaire actually came across as the little guy who fought City Hall and won. And he waited for his shot at revenge against Brewster, who once had ambitions toward the vice presidency until the Hughes hearings pretty much torpedoed those. When Hughes learned Payne was considering a primary challenge to Brewster, Hughes, according to Dietrich (in Dietrich's memoir Howard: The Amazing Mr. Hughes), ordered his people, "Give Payne whatever the hell he needs, and forget the cost." The Payne campaign was infused with $60,000 worth of Hughes money, big money in that time and place, not to mention fully detailed documentation of Brewster's shenanigans involving the Pan Am bill. Payne flattened Brewster in the primary, and Brewster actually resigned his seat in December 1952.

Payne's Senate career lasted only one term and is probably remembered best for two things: 1) His support for a bill that would have outlawed switchblade knives, the bill sponsors thinking it would end gang violence, but when the bill finally became law in 1958 it had the opposite effect: the gangs turned to firearms. 2) His successor representing Maine in the Senate---future vice presidential running mate and presidential candidate Edmund Muskie.

Then, again, it's entirely possible that, if the Seventeenth Amendment had never come to pass, Roy Moore might not even have become a topic in the first place.

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