NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away

[TomSea]

NeverTrump Nitwits Should Just Go Away
By Brian C. Joondeph

Instead of admitting they were wrong about President Donald Trump, the #NeverTrump nitwit brigade is doubling down on stupid. Is it simply that they are too stubborn to acknowledge that despite their misgivings during campaign season, Trump is turning out to be the president they have been writing, lecturing, and think-tanking about for their entire careers?

Or are they bitter because they are now on the outside looking in, relegated to interviews with journalistic lightweights like Brian Stelter at CNN or Chris Hayes at MSNBC rather than appearing on Fox News opinion shows with much higher ratings and appeal?

Many of the names are familiar to longtime conservatives. What’s new in the past few years is the vitriol directed at Trump and his supporters

Read more at: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/09/nevertrump_nitwits_should_just_go_away.html

"Never Trump Nitwit Brigade", I kind of like that.

[jmyrlefuller]

Perhaps you didn't understand the meaning of the word "never."


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[Right_in_Virginia]

Perhaps you didn't understand the meaning of the word "never." 

Do you agree with what Max Boot, a premier leader of the NeverTrump resistance, has written about the 2020 election @jmyrlefuller ?  Yes or no. 

FTA this is what Max Boot has proclaimed:

Mr. Boot wrote, “I will vote for any Democratic nominee, even Warren or Sanders, despite my profound disagreement with their far-left agendas.” 

[XenaLee]

Ok, I have to ask.   

What are you hoping to accomplish by posting (writing, publishing) stuff like this?   

Are you hoping to further alienate those that plan to not support and/or vote for Trump ...thus making yourselves look just as dumb as the radical left intolerant anti-Trumper Democrats?   Or....is it your intention to piss off folks that are still on the fence and undecided?   Really?   Because... the way I see it...

this crap is totally, truly, stupidly antithetical to what we should be doing... which is attempting to win the hearts and minds of EVERY voter for the upcoming election.  Just.....sayin.....

[Maj. Bill Martin]

I know there are some hard conservative NT'ers who oppose Trump because of a belief he has been insufficiently conservative. I disagree with them, but I respect their position as being policy-based.

What I don't get at all are the people like Boot -- referenced in that article -- who openly state that actual policy is less important to them than removing Trump from office because he's offensive/unfit. And just to be absolutely clear about what I'm criticizing (and it is NOT everyone who refuses to vote for Trump), Boot titled his article "Here are 14 Reasons I'll Vote For Any Democrat Over Trump," and said "“I will vote for any Democratic nominee, even Warren or Sanders, despite my profound disagreement with their far-left agendas.”

That's just jaw-dropping to me.  So he'd vote for Pete Buttigieg, who has openly stated his support for packing the Supreme Court by increasing the number of justices to 15.  Boot would  prefer the banning of cars, and stifling of political free speech by the FEC targetting conservatives, and repeal of Citizens United, and the elimination of the individual right to bear arms under Heller, and the mandatory federal financing of abortion on demand, open borders and the mass legalization/granting of citizenship and voting rights to people who came here illegally. 

He's fine with all those things -- many of which will be irreversible -- because they all are less important than Trump's personal moral failings.

That's just mind-blowing to me.  Again, for conservatives who see Trump himself as being wrong on a policy basis, that's a different story.  I get that.  I just don't get the people who openly subordinate core principles of liberty to Trump's personal moral failings.  I can't see how those two things are even on remotely the same level of importance to this country.

[EdJames]

Ok, I have to ask.   

What are you hoping to accomplish by posting stuff like this?   

Are you hoping to further alienate those that plan to not support and/or vote for Trump ...thus making yourselves look just as dumb as the radical left intolerant anti-Trumper Democrats?   Or....is it your intention to piss off folks that are still on the fence and undecided?   Really?   Because... the way I see it...

this crap is totally, truly, stupidly antithetical to what we should be doing... which is attempting to win the hearts and minds of EVERY voter for the upcoming election.  Just.....sayin.....

Agreed, not helpful at all.

(But certainly not an isolated case.... far too many articles posted here just stir up crap for no good purpose.)

[EdJames]

I know there are some hard conservative NT'ers who oppose Trump because of a belief he has been insufficiently conservative. I disagree with them, but I respect their position as being policy-based.

What I don't get at all are the people like Boot -- referenced in that article -- who openly state that actual policy is less important to them than removing Trump from office because he's offensive/unfit. And just to be absolutely clear about what I'm criticizing (and it is NOT everyone who refuses to vote for Trump), Boot titled his article "Here are 14 Reasons I'll Vote For Any Democrat Over Trump," and said "“I will vote for any Democratic nominee, even Warren or Sanders, despite my profound disagreement with their far-left agendas.”

That's just jaw-dropping to me.  So he'd vote for Pete Buttigieg, who has openly stated his support for packing the Supreme Court by increasing the number of justices to 15.  Boot would  prefer the banning of cars, and stifling of political free speech by the FEC targetting conservatives, and repeal of Citizens United, and the elimination of the individual right to bear arms under Heller, and the mandatory federal financing of abortion on demand, open borders and the mass legalization/granting of citizenship and voting rights to people who came here illegally. 

He's fine with all those things -- many of which will be irreversible -- because they all are less important than Trump's personal moral failings.

That's just mind-blowing to me.

If you understood what scum like boot represents, it wouldn’t be so mind blowing.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Agreed, not helpful at all.

(But certainly not an isolated case.... far too many articles posted here just stir up crap for no good purpose.)

The title is unnecessarily inflammatory - terrible decision to go with that.  But I believe the specific criticism of people like Boot - who are willing to subordinate permanently core principles of liberty to the personal moral failings of Trump --  is both justified and necessary.

[XenaLee]

Agreed, not helpful at all.

(But certainly not an isolated case.... far too many articles posted here just stir up crap for no good purpose.)

Not directed at TomSea, but at the idiot that wrote the "piece".   It's just more inflammatory BS intended to keep the NTs pissed off at the Trump camp, IMO.

[240B]

Mr. Boot wrote, “I will vote for any Democratic nominee, even Warren or Sanders, despite my profound disagreement with their far-left agendas.

But...but...the NeverTrumps will exclaim, 'I am NOT a liberal! I am Not a Democrat!'
Just because I support Liberals and Democrats does not make me one of them.
I AM an INDEPENDENT! DAMMIT! Just because I support Libs and Dems, doesn't matter.
Defeating Trump is the most important thing. Even if it costs me my right arm to do it.

[EdJames]

The title is unnecessarily inflammatory - terrible decision to go with that.  But I believe the specific criticism of people like Boot is both justified and necessary.

I agree with that.

[XenaLee]

The title is unnecessarily inflammatory - terrible decision to go with that.  But I believe the specific criticism of people like Boot is both justified and necessary.

Yeah, but Boot is just "one" NTer.  What about the Bushes?  What about other RINOs in DC?  There's plenty of traitors amongst the GOP. 

[Bigun]

I know there are some hard conservative NT'ers who oppose Trump because of a belief he has been insufficiently conservative. I disagree with them, but I respect their position as being policy-based.

What I don't get at all are the people like Boot -- referenced in that article -- who openly state that actual policy is less important to them than removing Trump from office because he's offensive/unfit. And just to be absolutely clear about what I'm criticizing (and it is NOT everyone who refuses to vote for Trump), Boot titled his article "Here are 14 Reasons I'll Vote For Any Democrat Over Trump," and said "“I will vote for any Democratic nominee, even Warren or Sanders, despite my profound disagreement with their far-left agendas.”

That's just jaw-dropping to me.  So he'd vote for Pete Buttigieg, who has openly stated his support for packing the Supreme Court by increasing the number of justices to 15.  Boot would  prefer the banning of cars, and stifling of political free speech by the FEC targetting conservatives, and repeal of Citizens United, and the elimination of the individual right to bear arms under Heller, and the mandatory federal financing of abortion on demand, open borders and the mass legalization/granting of citizenship and voting rights to people who came here illegally. 

He's fine with all those things -- many of which will be irreversible -- because they all are less important than Trump's personal moral failings.

That's just mind-blowing to me.  Again, for conservatives who see Trump himself as being wrong on a policy basis, that's a different story.  I get that.  I just don't get the people who openly subordinate core principles of liberty to Trump's personal moral failings.  I can't see how those two things are even on remotely the same level of importance to this country.

   I can't get my head wrapped around that kind of thinking either.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Mr. Boot wrote, “I will vote for any Democratic nominee, even Warren or Sanders, despite my profound disagreement with their far-left agendas.

But...but...the NeverTrumps will exclaim, 'I am NOT a liberal! I am Not a Democrat!'
Just because I support Liberals and Democrats does not make me one of them.
I AM an INDEPENDENT! DAMMIT! Just because I support Libs and Dems, doesn't matter.
Defeating Trump is the most important thing. Even if it costs me my right arm to do it.

The problem with what you're saying is the same as the problem with the title -- it lumps all NeverTrumpers into the same category.  That's not only unfair, but it is inherently divisive.

[XenaLee]

Do you agree with what Max Boot, a premier leader of the NeverTrump resistance, has written about the 2020 election @jmyrlefuller ?  Yes or no. 

FTA this is what Max Boot has proclaimed:

Max Boot is a WaPo POS leftist trying to whip up anger at Trump and at Trump supporters among those still on the fence about Trump by insulting them.  He is doing what leftists do, IOW.   And you're not helping.

[skeeter]

The title is unnecessarily inflammatory - terrible decision to go with that.  But I believe the specific criticism of people like Boot - who are willing to subordinate permanently core principles of liberty to the personal moral failings of Trump --  is both justified and necessary.

Agree the title is unnecessarily provocative. And the writer errs in asserting that guys like Max Boot, Steve Schmidt or Bill Kristol have a principled bone in their bodies. They are pundits & political operators. Ideology is the last thing that compels them. Trump's campaign made fools out of them and made them look professionally incompetent.

Its a mistake to lump those who have a problem with Trump's style or honestly believe he isn't conservative enough with these clowns.

[EdJames]

Max Boot is a WaPo POS leftist trying to whip up anger at Trump and at Trump supporters among those still on the fence about Trump by insulting them.  He is doing what leftists do, IOW.   And you're not helping.

That's about the nicest thing that one could say about him....

[EdJames]

Agree the title is unnecessarily provocative. And the writer errs in asserting that guys like Max Boot, Steve Schmidt or Bill Kristol have a principled bone in their bodies. They are pundits & political operators. Ideology is the last thing that compels them. Trump's campaign made fools out of them and made them look professionally incompetent.

Oh, don't kid yourself, they have an ideology.....

[XenaLee]

That's about the nicest thing that one could say about him....

Lol.   Well... it's early.  I haven't even had my first cup of java yet, and thus...

I'm just gettin started.   

[Bigun]

Agree the title is unnecessarily provocative. And the writer errs in asserting that guys like Max Boot, Steve Schmidt or Bill Kristol have a principled bone in their bodies. They are pundits & political operators whose rice bowls are 100% dependent on the status quo in DC being maintained! Ideology is the last thing that compels them. Trump's campaign made fools out of them and made them look professionally incompetent.

Fixed it for you @skeeter.

[XenaLee]

Oh, don't kid yourself, they have an ideology.....

Let me guess....

it involves the color red, a hammer and ...oh yeah... a sickle!

[EdJames]

Lol.   Well... it's early.  I haven't even had my first cup of java yet, and thus...

I'm just gettin started.   

God Bless Ya!!  I couldn't even get logged in without at least 2 cups of coffee in me!!

[Bigun]

Oh, don't kid yourself, they have an ideology.....

   and it is not a good one!

[skeeter]

Fixed it for you @skeeter.

True enough. Those guys and just about anyone else who lives within the beltway.

[Bigun]

True enough. Those guys and just about anyone else who lives within the beltway.

And I think it's important to point out that they don't hate Trump for any other reason than his threatening their rice bowls.