Jeffrey Epstein arrested for sex trafficking of minors in Florida and New York: Report

[EdJames]

Except that Epstein was a democrat very active in democrat causes and was politically connected. So he and Bill Clinton were a perfect fit, as they both were aggressive and coercive with women. Trump was neither. He was a good father of great kids and he never sunk to that sick level of debauchery.

I have to say, I am amazed by this post.   

[XenaLee]

I have to say, I am amazed by this post.   

Why?  Because Trump was a democrat very active in democrat causes and was politically connected also?   

[EdJames]

WTH??  @Victoria33

Bulletin:  Not one of these girls was abducted.  Not one was physically harmed or threatened.  NOT ONE!

Nobody lost their virginity by force.  Nobody was kept in cages as sex slaves.

One doesn't have to be a professional to know what's going on here.

These girls are all of loose morals and all are sexually active.  They went willingly for $$$ or just for the thrill.

Two points:
1.  We don't know if the above is true.  Too early.  It may be, but it may not be.  (Keep in mind that this bare bones indictment merely served to get the ball rolling, so to speak.  It is almost guaranteed that superseding indictment(s) will be filed....  the content of those may certainly contain many more serious charges.)
2.  If these girls were under the age of consent in the various jurisdictions, it doesn't matter if they had "loose morals" and were "sexually active," crimes were committed.

[EdJames]

Why?  Because Trump was a democrat very active in democrat causes and was politically connected also?   

Yeah, along those lines...  certainly connected to the Clintons as well...     

[Right_in_Virginia]

Tribunal Report âš–
‏ @TribunalReport 11m11 minutes ago

 Epstein's defense attorney Reid Weingarten is arguing double jeopardy and statute of limitations. The brief hearing looks like it is about to come to a close, we should have an outcome pending trial whether to release or for him to stay in federal custody today. #epstein #sdny 

Tribunal Report âš–
‏ @TribunalReport 3m3 minutes ago

 One last sickening remark by Reid Weingarten "There's no statutory rape because there was no penetration". The bail proceedings have been adjourned until Thursday, Epstein will remain in federal custody until then. There will be another hearing today. #epstein #sdny

[txradioguy]

Watching certain people twist themselves into pretzels to try and distance Trump from Epstein is gonna be fun.

 

[musiclady]

It would be wonderful if Epstein eluded to what Billy Bob was doing on those 26 trips aboard his private jet.

I know Billy Bob is going to get nailed in the end, but I sure would love to see it happen here on earth.

Epstein needs to spill his dirty guts on this one.

@libertybele

[txradioguy]

Bulletin:  Not one of these girls was abducted.  Not one was physically harmed or threatened.  NOT ONE!

Nobody lost their virginity by force.  Nobody was kept in cages as sex slaves.

One doesn't have to be a professional to know what's going on here.

These girls are all of loose morals and all are sexually active.  They went willingly for $$$ or just for the thrill.

Epstein apparently has contacts in Moscow who provide matchmaking services for both his “orgy island” in the Caribbean (which he jokingly dubbed Little St. Jeff’s) and his Manhattan townhouse.

“When the Russian girls arrive in the city, they already have Jeffrey’s phone number,”

https://pagesix.com/2016/03/08/jeffrey-epsteins-east-side-mansion-houses-russian-playmates/


 


Also the mother of two teenaged girls who Epstein tried to seduce (one of which was 16) would disagree that there was any willingness on her daughters part to what was going on.

[Sanguine]

WTH??  @Victoria33

Bulletin:  Not one of these girls was abducted.  Not one was physically harmed or threatened.  NOT ONE!

Nobody lost their virginity by force.  Nobody was kept in cages as sex slaves.

One doesn't have to be a professional to know what's going on here.

These girls are all of loose morals and all are sexually active.  They went willingly for $$$ or just for the thrill.

WTH right back at you!  Girls from troubled backgrounds were targeted, and 14 and 15 year olds cannot legally agree to sex.  You're blaming what are genuinely children for "loose morals" and being "sexually active"?  WTF?

[txradioguy]

WTH right back at you!  Girls from troubled backgrounds were targeted, and 14 and 15 year olds cannot legally agree to sex.  You're blaming what are genuinely children for "loose morals" and being "sexually active"?  WTF?

They'll say and justify anything to protect Trump.

[txradioguy]

Bill Barr’s father, Donald Barr, was headmaster at the Dalton school in NYC. He hired Jeffrey Epstein, a two-time college dropout to teach physics and calculus to high school students.

Alexander Acosta, the U.S. Attorney in Miami that cut a secret deal to keep Jeffrey Epstein out of jail and seal all the evidence was Trump’s mysterious pick for Secretary of Labor.

[Sanguine]

They'll say and justify anything to protect Trump.

Respectfully disagree with you here, @txradioguy.  It looks like Trump's involvement was minimal and came to an end when Epstein approached a 15 year old towel girl at his resort.

Having said that, if Trump was really involved at a deeper level, he should get justice too. 

[DCPatriot]

Watching certain people twist themselves into pretzels to try and distance Trump from Epstein is gonna be fun.

 

@txradioguy

Yeah.... this from a guy whose been waiting FOUR YEARS...and counting, for his <Let's not>.   

[txradioguy]

Bulletin:  Not one of these girls was abducted.  Not one was physically harmed or threatened.  NOT ONE!

Nobody lost their virginity by force.  Nobody was kept in cages as sex slaves.

One doesn't have to be a professional to know what's going on here.

These girls are all of loose morals and all are sexually active.  They went willingly for $$$ or just for the thrill.

Hmmm facts say otherwise.

In 2006 and 2007, the FBI confirmed that Epstein, who has homes in Manhattan, Palm Beach, New Mexico, Paris and in the U.S. Virgin Islands, sexually abused nearly three dozen girls at his Palm Beach mansion. He trained the girls to help recruit other young girls as part of an operation that operated like a pyramid scheme. He also had recruiters who helped with his appointments, scheduling as many as three or four girls a day, the FBI probe found.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/state/florida/article232385422.html

[XenaLee]

Yeah, along those lines...  certainly connected to the Clintons as well...     

Oh, the irony. 

I posit that this new/renewed interest in Epstein is just the deep state's ongoing attempts to .....

(wait for it)...

GET TRUMP.....  ie get him out of office and out of DC....

by any means necessary.

[ABX]

WTH??  @Victoria33

Bulletin:  Not one of these girls was abducted.  Not one was physically harmed or threatened.  NOT ONE!

Nobody lost their virginity by force.  Nobody was kept in cages as sex slaves.

One doesn't have to be a professional to know what's going on here.

These girls are all of loose morals and all are sexually active.  They went willingly for $$$ or just for the thrill.

There it is, the sickest thing I've read all day.  You didn't try to make any of those justifications when it was just Bill Clinton who was in the news as his pal. Now suddenly you are going to blame 14-15 year old girls. You don't know they were abducted or not forced into this, either physically or mental manipulation. And it is disgusting to think you would side with a known pedo over children.

Sick, sick, sick... You can't tell me Trumpism hasn't completely rotted any semblance of values the Right once had.

I'm out...

[EdJames]

Oh, the irony. 

I posit that this new/renewed interest in Epstein is just the deep state's ongoing attempts to .....

(wait for it)...

GET TRUMP.....  ie get him out of office and out of DC....

by any means necessary.

That could be very well be the case.  Or it may not be.  IMO it is too early to tell.

Certainly we've already seen the media out in full force making TRUMP the focus of this whole story.

But, we still have a lot to see unfold as to where this ultimately ends up.

(I do believe that he needs to jettison Acosta as soon as possible.)

[txradioguy]

Respectfully disagree with you here, @txradioguy.  It looks like Trump's involvement was minimal and came to an end when Epstein approached a 15 year old towel girl at his resort.

Having said that, if Trump was really involved at a deeper level, he should get justice too.

@Sanguine

If he's not involved he needs to get out in front of this very VERY quickly and explain his relationship with Epstein and the mysterious hiring of the Federal Attorney that gave Epstein his sweetheart plea deal as the new Secretary of Labor.

[txradioguy]

Here are seven connections between Trump and Epstein's sex slave endeavors that you need to know about:

1.Trump himself has said that Epstein is “a lot of fun to be with,” adding that he admired the sex offender's affinity for beautiful women “on the younger side.”

"I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,'' Trump once said about the convicted sex offender. "He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it -- Jeffrey enjoys his social life."

2. Trump was named in Epstein’s “little black book.”

Epstein’s “little black book” was stolen by a former employee in 2004. The book, nicknamed "The Holy Grail" by the employee, revealed the name of Donald Trump and listed “14 phone numbers including emergency numbers, car numbers, and numbers to Trump's security guard and houseman.”

3. Trump has allegedly flown on Epstein’s private plane — a hot spot for under-age sex orgies.

“Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother, testified in 2009 that Trump flew on Jeffrey's private jet at least once,” reports VICE News. “Meanwhile, message pads [see below] from Epstein's Palm Beach mansion that were seized by investigators and obtained by VICE News indicate that Trump called Epstein twice in November of 2004.”

Epstein’s private Boeing 727, according to one of his alleged victims, Virginia Roberts, was nicknamed the “Lolita Express.” Roberts recalled “unsavoury” sex orgies on the private plane when she was just 15 years of age with Epstein and his friends.

4. Both Trump and Epstein are named as sex abusers in a case with an under-aged girl.

Radar Online reports that a woman in California, “identified” as Katie Johnson, filed a $100 million lawsuit against Trump on April 26, accusing the real estate mogul of raping her when she was just 13 years old.

Johnson “claims Trump raped her when she was 13-years-old and forced her to engage in sex acts by threatening to harm her and her family,” notes The Independent UK. “She claims the alleged abuse took place over a four-month period at underage sex parties held in New York City in 1994.” Epstein was also named for alleged sexual misconduct and threats.

Trump’s team adamantly denies the accusation, suspecting the claim is possibly a hoax since there is allegedly “no evidence” the plaintiff “actually exists.”

5. Epstein admitted to knowing Trump under oath, and curiously pled the fifth to Trump attending sex parties with underage girls.

Back in 2010, Epstein admitted to “socializing” with Trump, but when a lawyer representing an under-aged victim of Epstein’s asked if he has “ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18,” Epstein curiously pled the Fifth. Per Vice News:

Q: Have you ever had a personal relationship with Donald Trump?
A. What do you mean by "personal relationship," sir?
Q. Have you socialized with him?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Yes?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Have you ever socialized with Donald Trump in the presence of females under the age of 18?
A: Though I'd like to answer that question, at least today I'm going to have to assert my Fifth, Sixth, and 14th Amendment rights, sir.

6. At least one of Epstein’s underage sex victims was recruited from Trump’s Mar-a-Lago — which he frequented often.

Virginia Roberts, an alleged victim of Epstein’s, "was recruited to perform a massage for Epstein while working as a $9-per-hour locker room attendant at Mar-A-Lago.”

Roberts claims that “Epstein turned her into a ‘sex slave’ and pimped her out to various friends, including England's Prince Andrew. Over the years, the passengers on Epstein's jet, she said, included ‘a whole bunch of other girls, sometimes famous people, sometimes some politicians.'"

7. Trump was subpoenaed in 2009 for his connection to Epstein’s under-age sex slave rings. Trump has denied ever being served.

In 2009, Trump was subpoenaed in a case against Epstein concerning victim Virginia Roberts. Trump's attorney Alan Garten said that the subpoena "never happened."

"There is no debate over what happened," said one of Roberts' attorneys. "I served Mr. Trump with a subpoena for deposition in 2009. He talked to me voluntarily, and consequently we withdrew the subpoena in light of his voluntarily providing information…. I can't imagine there being any dispute of any of this."

Additionally, Garten told VICE News in January that Mr. Trump has "no relationship" with Epstein other than the Democratic donor frequenting Trump's Mar-A-Lago. "A lot of people hung out there, including Jeffrey Epstein," said Garten. "That is the only connection."

According to the evidence, however, the connections with Epstein appear to go a lot deeper than that.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/5556/7-things-you-need-know-about-trump-and-sex-slave-amanda-prestigiacomo


 

[Absalom]

At times you make very good posts here...  somewhat profound thoughts....  great historical references...
Other times, like this, your posts make you sound like a blithering idiot!

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Obviously, all are entitled to their opinion.
So what is yours regarding Trump's judgement of character???????

[Sanguine]

@Sanguine

If he's not involved he needs to get out in front of this very VERY quickly and explain his relationship with Epstein mysterious hiring of the Federal Attorney that gave Epstein his sweetheart plea deal as the new Secretary of Labor.

Agreed, but there's a BIG difference between having sex with underaged children and bad hiring practices.

[txradioguy]

Agreed, but there's a BIG difference between having sex with underaged children and bad hiring practices.

@Sanguine read what I posted above...from the Daily Wire in 2016.

[Sanguine]

@Sanguine read what I posted above...from the Daily Wire in 2016.

We'll see.   

[DCPatriot]

There it is, the sickest thing I've read all day.  You didn't try to make any of those justifications when it was just Bill Clinton who was in the news as his pal. Now suddenly you are going to blame 14-15 year old girls. You don't know they were abducted or not forced into this, either physically or mental manipulation. And it is disgusting to think you would side with a known pedo over children.

Sick, sick, sick... You can't tell me Trumpism hasn't completely rotted any semblance of values the Right once had.

I'm out...

You're out of it, all right, @Absalom

Point out here where I have made exceptions or excuses for Donald Trump.  Where in the eff is he mentioned in my post.

Your hard-on for the POTUS says more about you than me.

All I did was respond to @Victoria33 's suggestion that these girls were held against their will or told to "PUT THE LOTION IN THE BASKET!" in some dark dungeon.

....which is the type of sexual crime that gets you killed inside the prison system.

[txradioguy]

You're out of it, all right, @Absalom

Point out here where I have made exceptions or excuses for Donald Trump.  Where in the eff is he mentioned in my post.

Your hard-on for the POTUS says more about you than me.

All I did was respond to @Victoria33 's suggestion that these girls were held against their will or told to "PUT THE LOTION IN THE BASKET!" in some dark dungeon.

....which is the type of sexual crime that gets you killed inside the prison system.

The problem with your "defense" of what Epstein did is that it's totally false if you actually read what he did and how it all went down.

You're defending the actions of a sexual predator.

You may not say his name...but still...you're defending Trump's relationship and friendship with Epstein because that's what you do at all costs no matter what kind of human decency and common sense you have to sacrifice in the process.