Byron York: Anti-Trump fever takes threatening turn

[skeeter]

I don't agree it's a "ox being gored" thing but rather a matter of degree.  Try as I might, I just don't recall Republican protesters bashing in the heads of Obastard supporters in the streets on such a widespread basis, and Police being instructed to ignore felonious assault.   

This.

It was the Community Organizer who green lighted the leftwing thugs to start cracking heads. It is the current crop of batshit crazy rat politicians urging their toads to take to the streets.

Leftwing violence clearly is becoming more commonplace and there isn't and never has been an equivalent movement on the right.

[roamer_1]

I don't agree it's a "ox being gored" thing but rather a matter of degree.  Try as I might, I just don't recall Republican protesters bashing in the heads of Obastard supporters in the streets on such a widespread basis, and Police being instructed to ignore felonious assault.   

Who is claiming 'Republican protesters bashing in the heads of Obastard supporters'?

The ox being gored is that it is happening to Tump supporters.
But it is no where near the level of violence displayed in the LA Riots (Rodney King), as an example...
Or even the riot in Ferguson Missouri over the Michael Brown affair, both of which were fomented by the left complete with bussed in rioters to get em going.

What about the black panthers way back in the 60s?

This crap has been going on a very long time...

[Cyber Liberty]

Who is claiming 'Republican protesters bashing in the heads of Obastard supporters'?

The ox being gored is that it is happening to Tump supporters.
But it is no where near the level of violence displayed in the LA Riots (Rodney King), as an example...
Or even the riot in Ferguson Missouri over the Michael Brown affair, both of which were fomented by the left complete with bussed in rioters to get em going.

What about the black panthers way back in the 60s?

This crap has been going on a very long time...

I won't deny that.  What I deny is this depends on who's ox is being gored.  I would also point out this is organized violence for the purpose of effecting specific political policies, the classic definition of "terrorism."

[EdJames]

This.

It was the Community Organizer who green lighted the leftwing thugs to start cracking heads. It is the current crop of batshit crazy rat politicians urging their toads to take to the streets.

Leftwing violence clearly is becoming more commonplace and there isn't and never has been an equivalent movement on the right.

Very true.

[roamer_1]

I won't deny that.  What I deny is this depends on who's ox is being gored. 

That is not what I said - I said:

Your argument is toward whose ox is being gored, which is just another political calculation for the left.

By what measurement is this any different than the hundreds of instances prior to now, other than whose ox?

I would also point out this is organized violence for the purpose of effecting specific political policies, the classic definition of "terrorism."

Just like the LA Riots and the Ferguson riots, and every other act of violence where Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton show up afterwards with a 25 dollar smile. Tell me which acts of violence performed by the left that are not organized for the purpose of political effect? This is no different in anything except in its manifestation. It's motive is exactly the same, and the toll is rather mild by comparison.

[truth_seeker]

The day after the 1965 Watts riots, a black guy that I worked with, stated:

"I was going to go up there to LA, see my mother over the weekend, but those ni**ers arre shooting black people.

Ever since, Kent State, Rodney King, I stayed away from such trouble.

A feel bad for Andy Ngo, but he effen volunteered to an extent by going to Portland, and walking into the middle of it.

[Sanguine]

I don't agree it's a "ox being gored" thing but rather a matter of degree.  Try as I might, I just don't recall Republican protesters bashing in the heads of Obastard supporters in the streets on such a widespread basis, and Police being instructed to ignore felonious assault.   

You don't remember when you and me and all our conservative friends put on black clothes, bandanas over our faces, and went out and beat up poor, hapless, peace-loving 0bama supporters?  No...wait....maybe that didn't happen.

[skeeter]

You don't remember when you and me and all our conservative friends put on black clothes, bandanas over our faces, and went out and beat up poor, hapless, peace-loving 0bama supporters?  No...wait....maybe that didn't happen.

A quick Google will reveal a whole lotta journalists who have also noticed the increasing normalization of violence by the left of late. This is not normal and, outside of the Vietnam protests of the 60's, is unprecedented in recent times.

[Hoodat]

A quick Google will reveal a whole lotta journalists who have also noticed the increasing normalization of violence by the left of late. This is not normal and, outside of the Vietnam protests of the 60's, is unprecedented in recent times.

Define 'recent'.  Because I definitely remember this same mentality at work within the last century.

[skeeter]

Define 'recent'.  Because I definitely remember this same mentality at work within the last century.

Point taken.

By 'recent' I mean local and within the past 150 years.

I'm not talking about the odd-riot. This is organized terrorism.

[roamer_1]

Point taken.

By 'recent' I mean local and within the past 150 years.

I'm not talking about the odd-riot. This is organized terrorism.

Odd riot... So they don't count, huh?
Even when they too are organized with the intent of terrorism?

Making this personal will blind you.

[Cyber Liberty]

You don't remember when you and me and all our conservative friends put on black clothes, bandanas over our faces, and went out and beat up poor, hapless, peace-loving 0bama supporters?  No...wait....maybe that didn't happen.

That must have been where I lost my bicycle lock....

[Cyber Liberty]

Odd riot... So they don't count, huh?
Even when they too are organized with the intent of terrorism?

Making this personal will blind you.

Well, to me there is a personal angle to this.  I left a big city in which I lived for 40 years because it became unsafe to don a red baseball cap and go out in public.  I'd never seen this level of vandalism against political yard signs before.   Oh, sure, people have always stolen or defaced them lots of times, but as I said upthread, the degree has changed.  I'd seen a couple of signs stolen in the hood before, but in 16 they started slashing and painting all of them, then committing vandalism to the house or business too.  More than just TP'ing the trees.

Intimidation by the Antifa crowd is worse than things I've personally seen in the past.  It's whistling past the graveyard to think nothing is different other than who's at the receiving end of it.  This is why I left the big city for a smaller one.  It's to get a better view of the mountains, yes but it's also for isolation from the bad elements I found my self surrounded by.

[Axeslinger]

A quick Google will reveal a whole lotta journalists who have also noticed the increasing normalization of violence by the left of late. This is not normal and, outside of the Vietnam protests of the 60's, is unprecedented in recent times.

And this is why when people on the right crow about how our side will automatically win the coming war “because we’ve got all the guns”, I like to point out that
A) that’s not true, the other side has quietly been arming up
And
B) which side is out in the street fighting for what they believe and which side doesn’t do much more than piss and moan at their keyboard.   

[roamer_1]

Well, to me there is a personal angle to this.  I left a big city in which I lived for 40 years because it became unsafe to don a red baseball cap and go out in public.  I'd never seen this level of vandalism against political yard signs before.   Oh, sure, people have always stolen or defaced them lots of times, but as I said upthread, the degree has changed.  I'd seen a couple of signs stolen in the hood before, but in 16 they started slashing and painting all ofthem, then committing vandalism to the house or business too.  More than just TP'ing the trees.

Intimidation by the Antifa crowd is worse than things I've personally seen in the past.  It's whistling past the graveyard to think nothing is different other than who's at the receiving end of it.  This is why I left the big city for a smaller one.  It's to get a better view of the mountains, yes but it's also for isolation from the bad elements I found my self surrounded by.

My family did much the same thing forty years ago, driven by crime which was in turn driven by liberal governance. And hundreds upon hundreds have been killed in that battle - Organized again, purposefully, by liberals.

Take it personally if you wish, but that is playing right into their hands.
They want you either intimidated or pissed off. Because both remove tempered reason.
And it provides false justification that plays right into the victim mentality.

I will choose another path.

[Cyber Liberty]

And this is why when people on the right crow about how our side will automatically win the coming war “because we’ve got all the guns”, I like to point out that
A) that’s not true, the other side has quietly been arming up
And
B) which side is out in the street fighting for what they believe and which side doesn’t do much more than piss and moan at their keyboard.

I'm not going to go into a dangerous situation just to shoot myself out of it.  Antifa "protest?"  My gun and I aren't going there (avoiding the trouble is part of situational awareness). 

But if they decide to infiltrate my neighborhood it won't end well.  Every other house had a Gadsden flag, and there are only two ways in and out of this area.  We're surrounded by rugged foothills in a Sonoran Desert environment.  If they were to try that hard it's a safe bet the commandos will come out from behind their keyboards.

My family did much the same thing forty years ago, driven by crime which was in turn driven by liberal governance. And hundreds upon hundreds have been killed in that battle - Organized again, purposefully, by liberals.

Take it personally if you wish, but that is playing right into their hands.
They want you either intimidated or pissed off. Because both remove tempered reason.
And it provides false justification that plays right into the victim mentality.

I will choose another path.

So when are you moving back to Chicago?

[roamer_1]

So when are you moving back to Chicago?

Exactly never.

[Cyber Liberty]

Exactly never.

I know, I was just messin' with ya.  I ain't going back to Phoenix either, unless I have to go to Mayo or something.   

[skeeter]

And this is why when people on the right crow about how our side will automatically win the coming war “because we’ve got all the guns”, I like to point out that
A) that’s not true, the other side has quietly been arming up
And
B) which side is out in the street fighting for what they believe and which side doesn’t do much more than piss and moan at their keyboard.

I'd do something more than piss and moan at the keyboard but I can't find my bike lock and black bandana.

[skeeter]

Odd riot... So they don't count, huh?
Even when they too are organized with the intent of terrorism?

Making this personal will blind you.

Yes, it will blind you.

[Victoria33]

Since I do believe God is firmly in control, I am forced to agree.  (lol)
But..... the reveal might have come a bit too late, I fear.   I just keep thinking about how we (the USA), as the only friend of Israel, are not mentioned in the Bible re: the end times.  Why not?

@XenaLee

Maybe because the Anti-Christ comes from the US in the form of a Trump?

[XenaLee]

@XenaLee

Maybe because the Anti-Christ comes from the US in the form of a Trump?

Really?   Or are you just engaging in satire?   

Anyone that knows anything at all about the anti-christ knows that it will be so charismatic that it will fool most of the world, and even a lot of the 'elect' among the Christians.  Ergo, the dire warning. 

So.... tell me.   Do you really think Trump is that charismatic?   Half of the world detests him (the evil, leftist half, that is).   Methinks you surely, Shirley, must be kidding. 

[roamer_1]

Yes, it will blind you.

It's anything BUT personal to me.
How is it that you think I have been blinded?

[sneakypete]

If these people ever succeed in taking guns away from the American people, we will all end up surrounded by barbed wire wearing striped pajamas.  There is zero difference between their intolerance and that of their socialist brethren in 1930s Germany.

 

[sneakypete]

I'm not following you on this.  Other than a joke once about paying somebody's legal bills way back in 2016, I don't recall Trump telling people to go out and kick peoples heads in.

I know the leftists have always had violent tendencies.  I think there's been a shifting of gears in going after Trump supporters, in addition to going after Trump himself.  Am I being fooled by pro-Trump media?

@Cyber Liberty

The difference is we now have the alleged conservative "morality police" siding with the rabid left because a "outsider" is in the White House instead of one of their beloved Bible-Thumping RINO's.

The more successful Trump is,the more they hate him.