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Federal employees turn their backs on Agriculture secretary after relocation plans announced


June 13, 2019 - 04:31 PM EDT

Members of the American Federation of Government Employees turned their backs on Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue on Thursday, apparently over plans to relocate them from Washington to the Kansas City area.

Perdue announced Thursday that two of the Department of Agriculture's research agencies, the Economic Research Service (ERS) and the National Institute of Food and Agriculture, will be relocated to be closer to major farming regions, according to Politico.

While Perdue has justified the relocation as a way to improve customer service and save taxpayers up to $20 million per year, some ERS employees have said it is a political move, according to the publication...

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I'm thinking that the same plan should be put in place for a LOT of federal agencies!
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Yes, who wouldn't prefer a high-crime, high-cost of living area like metropolitan D.C. to a pleasant, relatively inexpensive community like KC and its suburbs? These people must be anti-barbecue.
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Yes, who wouldn't prefer a high-crime, high-cost of living area like metropolitan D.C. to a pleasant, relatively inexpensive community like KC and its suburbs? These people must be anti-barbecue.

Yeah, but would you want them in your area?

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Yes, who wouldn't prefer a high-crime, high-cost of living area like metropolitan D.C. to a pleasant, relatively inexpensive community like KC and its suburbs? These people must be anti-barbecue.

Yeah but where will they find liberal friends to associate with out in the hinterlands?
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Fire them all for insubordination,  I'm sure plenty of folks in KC would have to have one of those jobs.

It ain't exactly rocket science, anyway.

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Seems like an excellent way for Perdue to rid himself of some of the selfish seekers in the Dept.

the Founders never intended to make DC a permanent residence for anybody connected to the federal government.

Some of those Agricultural Dept workers may be simply scared to be located close enough to their supposed 'constituents' that they may have to hear some of their shouting. 

Can't have that can we?
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Yes, who wouldn't prefer a high-crime, high-cost of living area like metropolitan D.C. to a pleasant, relatively inexpensive community like KC and its suburbs? These people must be anti-barbecue.

You know if they wanted that DC crime feel there is always the Kansas City on the other side of the river in MO! 
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Sounds like a good plan to me.

If the current employees don't want to be transferred, they can look for another job...

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This is typical east/west coastal bigotry, in my opinion. They seem to believe anyplace that isn't NY/DC or LA is a cultural wasteland (bitterly clinging to guns and religion, etc.). I've been to KC many times. Yes, it's civilized, and I'd gladly live there if my job required it.
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Seems like an excellent way for Perdue to rid himself of some of the selfish seekers in the Dept.

the Founders never intended to make DC a permanent residence for anybody connected to the federal government.

Some of those Agricultural Dept workers may be simply scared to be located close enough to their supposed 'constituents' that they may have to hear some of their shouting. 

Can't have that can we?
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This is typical east/west coastal bigotry, in my opinion. They seem to believe anyplace that isn't NY/DC or LA is a cultural wasteland (bitterly clinging to guns and religion, etc.). I've been to KC many times. Yes, it's civilized, and I'd gladly live there if my job required it.

I don't think that's it, @mountaineer

If you and family are established in the Maryland suburbs (Beltsville/College Park/Laurel/Columbia) with grown children in middle to high school, it's not that simple or exciting to move to the Prairie Lands.
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I don't think that's it, @mountaineer

If you and family are established in the Maryland suburbs (Beltsville/College Park/Laurel/Columbia) with grown children in middle to high school, it's not that simple or exciting to move to the Prairie Lands.
But it's a heck of a lot cheaper. Besides, you live down there. You've seen what gentrification's done. If we're going to drain the swamp, we have to pump out some of the muck.
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I'm thinking that the same plan should be put in place for a LOT of federal agencies!


We agree again. State Department?

You put the employee in a place to learn and/or serve better. And those upset
can take their resume and find something more appropriate.

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If you and family are established in the Maryland suburbs (Beltsville/College Park/Laurel/Columbia) with grown children in middle to high school, it's not that simple or exciting to move to the Prairie Lands.
My family moved across country a number of times for my father's (private sector) job, including moving into our new home in St. Louis just two weeks before I began my senior year of high school. My sister was in middle school at the time. We all survived, because we understood that it was necessary.
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Well, dangit, it's hard to get real dirt out of their wingtips...and loafers load up easy in a plowed field.
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I knew how minds of engineers/astronauts work.  I knew I had such a person registering a child if the form they filled out was like this:  Not one question blank was empty - every single one was filled out completely.  If the question didn't concern the engineer person, he put an "NA".  When I had such a person, I would say, "How long have you been an engineer?"  The person would say, "How do you know I am an engineer?"  Then, I would ask him, "How do you store your socks?"  True engineers' sock drawer is supremely orderly.  He then realized how orderly he was that told me he was an engineer.

Their children were bright even though they had moved around the country with the children changing schools frequently.  I did the best I could to help them feel "included" with other students.   

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Fed Workers Literally Turn Backs On Agriculture Secretary After Being Told They're Moving To Kansas
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Imagine being told to do an assignment by your boss and instead of following orders or having a conversation about why you cannot complete the job, you simply stood up and turned your back on him. You would probably be fired, right? Well, not if you work for the federal government. Yesterday, a group of federal employees literally stood up and turned their backs on Secretary of Agriculture Sonny Perdue after being told they would be relocated to Kansas.

The Hill reports that Sec. Perdue "announced Thursday that two of the Department of Agriculture’s research agencies, the Economic Research Service (ERS) and the National Institute of Food and Agriculture, will be relocated to be closer to major farming regions."



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Who can blame them? That would be like being punished for no good reason.

DC may suck,but it ain't Kansas,and these people have house payments,children in schools,etc,etc,etc.
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Who can blame them? That would be like being punished for no good reason.

DC may suck,but it ain't Kansas,and these people have house payments,children in schools,etc,etc,etc.

Exactly my point, @sneakypete

Yeah...it may be good for everybody overall, but it's not going to happen with everybody having smiling faces.
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I don't think that's it, @mountaineer

If you and family are established in the Maryland suburbs (Beltsville/College Park/Laurel/Columbia) with grown children in middle to high school, it's not that simple or exciting to move to the Prairie Lands.
We routinely uproot members of our Armed services and move their families across the country or to foreign postings. They don't get paid as much, I'd wager, I'd bet military retirement is not as good, either, but orders are orders.

No one in Federal service is guaranteed a cushy job.

(much of the private sector doesn't get to make such sedentary plans, either, so welcome to the real world)
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Who can blame them? That would be like being punished for no good reason.

DC may suck,but it ain't Kansas,and these people have house payments,children in schools,etc,etc,etc.
Sell the house. For modest home values in DC, they can buy a mansion in a good neighborhood in Kansas.
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We routinely uproot members of our Armed services and move their families across the country or to foreign postings. They don't get paid as much, I'd wager, I'd bet military retirement is not as good, either, but orders are orders.

No one in Federal service is guaranteed a cushy job.

(much of the private sector doesn't get to make such sedentary plans, either, so welcome to the real world)

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Joe,speaking as a former career soldier,the difference is the career military people knew this up front and accepted it. It's not coming as a surprise to them15 years down the road,when they think they are settled.
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Sell the house. For modest home values in DC, they can buy a mansion in a good neighborhood in Kansas.

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It ain't the house. It's uprooting your family from everything and everybody they know. It's creating chaos and what had been up until then,regularity.
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