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rangerrebew

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June 7, 2019

Could The Navy Dust Off Its World War II Plan to Beat Japan and Use it On China?

Would it work?
by James Holmes

Suppose Beijing opted to risk a cross-strait invasion of Taiwan. Take it from an old naval artilleryman: amphibious operations are no simple matter even when the auguries are good. And an attack on Taiwan would be far from auspicious for PLA forces. If you transpose a map of probable landing beaches on Taiwan onto the map of the actual Allied landings in Normandy in 1944, the imagery is striking. The two amphibious zones are comparable in size, while Taiwan’s coastal terrain rivals Normandy’s as an obstacle to troops storming ashore. PLA soldiers and marines will have their work cut out for them should the Chinese Communist leadership ordain that the island be taken by force.

Everyone says it: Newport, as in where the U.S. Naval War College is located and where yours truly works, underwent a golden age of strategy-making during the interwar decades. It must usher in a new golden age to prevail in strategic competition against the likes of China and Russia. Revisiting the service’s and Naval War College’s roots will shed light on the new, old dilemmas besetting them.

Indeed it may—if posterity understands that long-ago age.

https://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/World+News/War+&+Terrorism/Military+%28World%29

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Uhhhh,I don't want to give away any military secrets or nutting,but Japan was a small island,and China is one BIG-ass country.
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Uhhhh,I don't want to give away any military secrets or nutting,but Japan was a small island,and China is one BIG-ass country.
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On the mark.
Japan occupied Manchuria, Taiwan, Korea, much of the Dutch
East Indies as well as many Pacific Islands prior to Pearl Harbor.
Most of that had to be clawed back before Japanese defeat.
The geography of China is completely different and much simpler.
China shares 14,000 miles of border w/more than a dozen nations
and can be penetrated rather easily from west, south and east.

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When* China finally makes its move on Taiwan, we'll have but two choices:
Go nuclear,
or
Give it up.

*Notice that I did not say, "if"...

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Uhhhh,I don't want to give away any military secrets or nutting,but Japan was a small island,and China is one BIG-ass country.
Run serious incendiary bombing raids over major population centers. Nuke a couple...might work....if it is scaled up.
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On the mark.
Japan occupied Manchuria, Taiwan, Korea, much of the Dutch
East Indies as well as many Pacific Islands prior to Pearl Harbor.
Most of that had to be clawed back before Japanese defeat.
The geography of China is completely different and much simpler.
China shares 14,000 miles of border w/more than a dozen nations
and can be penetrated rather easily from west, south and east.

Mass has it's own power. China may have been big on a globe or map in the 20's to the 40's,but it was fragmented,fighting civil wars amongst itself,and basically still living in the 18th Century. Maybe even the 16th Century in some areas.

That is NOT the China of today.
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When* China finally makes its move on Taiwan, we'll have but two choices:
Go nuclear,
or
Give it up.

*Notice that I did not say, "if"...

@Fishrrman

Which means there IS no choice. We will give up any pretense of being able to stop them because we will NOT go to war over Taiwan.
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Mass has it's own power. China may have been big on a globe or map in the 20's to the 40's,but it was fragmented,fighting civil wars amongst itself,and basically still living in the 18th Century. Maybe even the 16th Century in some areas.
That is NOT the China of today.
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Hmm...................................................................really?
The Xia Dynasty ruled China w/an autocratic fist commencing in 2070 BC.
They were followed by some 12 Dynasties ending w/the Manchu in 1912.
Then came the military warlords and next the Communist Party of Mao.
So after 4000 years of despotic rule, in what way has China changed?????
THEY HAVEN'T AND CAN'T, WHICH IS WHY THEY CHEAT, LIE AND STEAL!!!
 

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We were at war with China, when they crossed the Yalu. Should have listened to LeMay then...
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Hmm...................................................................really?
 

@Absalom

Yes,really,but think what you want.
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