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Trump criticizes aircraft carrier design as 'wrong'
« on: May 28, 2019, 04:23:37 pm »
Trump criticizes aircraft carrier design as 'wrong'

By John Bowden - 05/28/19 09:02 AM EDT


President Trump criticized plans to overhaul some U.S. aircraft carriers' catapults while speaking to sailors aboard an assault ship stationed in Japan on Tuesday.

During his remarks, the president once again took aim at the Navy's plans to overhaul traditional steam-based catapults used for launching aircraft with newer electric systems, calling it a "wrong" choice.

"You know, they were saying — one of the folks said, 'No, the electric works faster. But, sir, we can only get the plane there every couple of minutes,' " Trump said aboard the USS Wasp, according to a White House transcript, adding: "So, really, what they did was wrong."

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https://thehill.com/policy/defense/445713-trump-criticizes-aircraft-carrier-design-as-wrong
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Re: Trump criticizes aircraft carrier design as 'wrong'
« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2019, 05:02:46 pm »
Please be satire ....

...and it isn't....

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Re: Trump criticizes aircraft carrier design as 'wrong'
« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2019, 05:11:13 pm »
What does he know about these catapults?  Is he an engineer or a scientist?

As for the cost -- perhaps he should be more concerned about how much his rock star tours , golf vacations  and his proposed add-ons to the Fourth of July celebrations in DC cost the taxpayers than the cost of these catapults.

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Re: Trump criticizes aircraft carrier design as 'wrong'
« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2019, 05:14:11 pm »
   Maybe his internal polling is showing that WV and Penn is in play and he's trying to help out the coal miners.
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Re: Trump criticizes aircraft carrier design as 'wrong'
« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2019, 05:20:54 pm »
What does he know about these catapults?  Is he an engineer or a scientist?

As for the cost -- perhaps he should be more concerned about how much his rock star tours , golf vacations  and his proposed add-ons to the Fourth of July celebrations in DC cost the taxpayers than the cost of these catapults.

He is a stable genius.. No one knows more about catapults than him.

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Re: Trump criticizes aircraft carrier design as 'wrong'
« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2019, 05:27:07 pm »
The Navy can handle Nuclear Power Reactors but Electric Linear Induction Motors are too complicated?
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Re: Trump criticizes aircraft carrier design as 'wrong'
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2019, 12:12:27 am »
Considering that there have been numerous problems with the magnetic catapults, perhaps Mr. Trump isn't that far off the mark, advocating the use of proven technology (steam) instead...

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Re: Trump criticizes aircraft carrier design as 'wrong'
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2019, 04:11:11 pm »
‘Go**amned steam’: Trump’s carrier obsession sets up collision with Navy and Congress

By Wesley Morgan
 
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President Donald Trump is ratcheting up the pressure on the Navy to return to the days of steam-powered catapults for launching jets from aircraft carriers — a multibillion-dollar shift that could take nearly two decades to achieve and would likely spur a clash with Congress.

Trump has spent two years criticizing the Navy's decision to switch to an electromagnetic launch system for its newest class of aircraft carriers, citing delays in rolling out the technology and complaining that “you have to be Albert Einstein to figure it out.” But he kicked his old-tech obsession up a notch during his visit to Japan, telling U.S. service members he plans to order the Navy to outfit all its new carriers with steam catapults.

"So I think I’m going to put an order: When we build a new aircraft carrier, we’re going to use steam,” Trump told sailors and Marines aboard the amphibious assault shift USS Wasp at a Navy base south of Tokyo, speaking late Monday night U.S. Eastern time. He renewed his complaint that the new technology could be unreliable during battle. “We’re spending all that money on electric, and nobody knows what it’s going to be like in bad conditions.”

The president was blunter during a May 2017 interview with Time magazine, in which he boasted that he had told his military commanders: “[You’re] going to go**amned steam.”

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http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/goamned-steam-trumps-carrier-obsession-sets-up-collision-with-navy-and-congress/ar-AAC374d?ocid=ientp
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Re: Trump criticizes aircraft carrier design as 'wrong'
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2019, 06:47:54 pm »
https://www.businessinsider.com/problems-with-switching-navy-aircraft-carriers-to-steam-catapult-2019-5

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The problem is that Ford-class carriers have been designed from the power plant up for EMALS.

To return to the system used by Nimitz would mean carving out space for both generating steam and piping it to the catapults, displacing other systems built into the warships.

That's why in 2009 the Navy estimated that replacing EMALS with steam catapults could delay construction of a Ford-class carrier for up to 18 months.

At least he hasn't demanded that they return to black powder guns.

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Re: Trump criticizes aircraft carrier design as 'wrong'
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2019, 07:55:09 pm »
He's got his 2 cents (and far less) on anything/everything;
yet his Mother's descriptive of incorrigible is perfect.
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Re: Trump criticizes aircraft carrier design as 'wrong'
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2019, 09:38:19 pm »
Anyone who has spent time on a carrier knows the thing most feared is being unable to launch or recover aircraft.  There were a few occasions when the ship lost steam and we went dead in the water until engineering got enough power to maintain steering and then recovered the aircraft.  Once or twice it happened conducting "blue water" flight ops where the pilots' bingo field was the ocean.  That was no all that common.  If I were a pilot aboard a ship that constantly had problems with it's recovery system, I'd have to wear Depends in my poopy suit.  If it is fairly frequent, a ship in battle were missiles may or may not work is just as bad.  Steam or otherwise, something has to be done and outside thoughts can't hurt. :flag: