Gillibrand: Anti-abortion laws 'against Christian faith'

[mystery-ak]

Gillibrand: Anti-abortion laws 'against Christian faith'
by Caitlin Yilek
 | May 16, 2019 02:55 PM


Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., said she views abortion laws as being "against Christian faith" on Thursday.

The 2020 hopeful spoke at the Georgia state house a day after Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey signed the nation’s strictest abortion ban into law. The law punishes doctors with 10 to 99 years in prison if they perform abortions and also prohibits abortion in the instance of rape or incest.

Earlier this month, Georgia banned abortion after six weeks.

"If you are a person of the Christian faith, one of the tenants of our faith is free will. One of the tenants of our democracy is that we have a separation of church and state, and under no circumstances are we supposed to be imposing our faith on other people. And I think this is an example of that effort," Gillibrand said.

Gillibrand, who is Catholic, said the Hyde Amendment, which bans federal funding for abortion, should be abolished, reproductive healthcare should be guaranteed in every state, and the Supreme Court’s ruling that legalized abortion nationwide should be written into law.

The Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 established a constitutional right to abortion.

"Any Democrat who expects to win the presidency must answer definitively where they stand on this issue," she said.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/gillibrand-anti-abortion-laws-against-christian-faith

[Night Hides Not]

I'd say there are plenty of theologians out there that disagree with her idea of "free will". Under her construct, our entire judicial system should be ended.

Ironic how this HooverHead is a member of the "world's greatest deliberative body."

HooverHead is a term I coined years ago for those who are not only brainless, there's a vacuum between the ears.

[austingirl]

She's confused  or maybe just evil.

[Wingnut]

Another Catholic politician that is in serious need of being excommunicated.

[mountaineer]

If you are a person of the Christian faith, one of the tenants (??) of our faith is free will.
WRONG. Some other religion, perhaps.

 One of the tenants (?? tenets, perhaps??)  of our democracy is that we have a separation of church and state
WRONG - not in the Constitution, at least not the way you think

under no circumstances are we supposed to be imposing our faith on other people. And I think this is an example of that effort
WRONG again - not killing someone doesn't impose a particular religious faith on anyone

[Right_in_Virginia]

Of all the areas demonrats are screwing up ….. their preaching religious doctrine to minds of mush scares the hell out of me the most.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

If you are a person of the Christian faith, one of the tenants (??) of our faith is free will.
WRONG. Some other religion, perhaps.

 One of the tenants (?? tenets, perhaps??)  of our democracy is that we have a separation of church and state
WRONG - not in the Constitution, at least not the way you think

under no circumstances are we supposed to be imposing our faith on other people. And I think this is an example of that effort
WRONG again - not killing someone doesn't impose a particular religious faith on anyone

You going to let her get away with the Dem talking point "our democracy"?

Seriously, lately I'm pretty sure there's a coordinated effort to push that phrase.

[EdJames]

You going to let her get away with the Dem talking point "our democracy"?

Seriously, lately I'm pretty sure there's a coordinated effort to push that phrase.

I'm pretty sure too, I hear it CONSTANTLY (from almost all quarters!).

[Hoodat]

Gillibrand: Anti-abortion laws 'against Christian faith'

Just as every cop is a criminal, and all the sinners saints
As heads is tails, just call me Lucifer, 'cause I'm in need of some restraint
So if you meet me have some courtesy, have some sympathy, and some taste
Use all your well-learned politesse, or I'll lay your soul to waste
Pleased to meet you, hope you guessed my name
But what's puzzling you is the nature of my game

-Jagger/Richards-

[mountaineer]

My bad. "Our democracy" is said so often by the historically illiterate that I have come to expect it.

[mystery-ak]

Opinion
Kirsten Gillibrand is nobody's moral theologian
by Madeline Fry
 | May 16, 2019 05:32 PM



“ My body, my choice” is a Christian principle, according to Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y.

The New York Democrat spoke against abortion bans at the Georgia Capitol on Thursday, saying that anti-abortion legislation, including laws just passed in Georgia and Alabama, is not only a violation of the separation of church and state, it’s also un-Christian.

"If you are a person of the Christian faith, one of the tenets of our faith is free will,” Gillibrand said. “One of the tenets of our democracy is that we have a separation of church and state, and under no circumstances are we supposed to be imposing our faith on other people. And I think this is an example of that effort.”

The presidential candidate is trying to keep her longshot campaign going by positioning herself as a champion of women’s “reproductive rights.” First, she promised to nominate pro- Roe v. Wade judges to the Supreme Court. Now, she’s pulling the religion card on her pro-abortion platform.

Gillibrand, a Catholic, used faith to justify her political platform, which is odd considering in the same breath, she invoked separation of church and state. She was wrong on both points.

more
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/kirsten-gillibrand-is-nobodys-moral-theologian

[GtHawk]

This seems to be something Democrats are prone to, just like Pelosi, Waters and many others, Gillibrand entered the Twilight Zone and then took One Step Beyond.


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[LottieDah]

Satan walks among us and he is a Democrat/liberal/Socialist. 

[Formerly Once-Ler]

"If you are a person of the Christian faith, one of the tenants of our faith is free will. One of the tenants of our democracy is that we have a separation of church and state, and under no circumstances are we supposed to be imposing our faith on other people. And I think this is an example of that effort,"

Thou shall not kill
Thou shall not lie

[Hoodat]

Gillibrand:
 under no circumstances are we supposed to be imposing our faith on other people.

Unless of course if your name happens to be Kirsten Gillibrand, in which case imposing your 'faith' on everyone else is a given.

Gillibrand, who is Catholic, said the Hyde Amendment, which bans federal funding for abortion, should be abolished, reproductive healthcare should be guaranteed in every state, and the Supreme Court’s ruling that legalized abortion nationwide should be written into law.

The last one there is the kicker because Congress has always had the power to override states by legalizing abortion everywhere.  Democrats are simply too afraid to risk their political futures by voting to do that.

[Sanguine]

Wouldn't you have to have been born in order to practice that free will stuff?

[mrclose]

God’s tender regard for delicate life as it grows in the womb.
He said to Jeremiah: “Before I was forming you in the belly I knew you, and before you proceeded to come forth from the womb I sanctified you.”

(Jeremiah 1:5)

[libertybele]

Thou shall not kill
Thou shall not lie

Lev: 19:11

Matthew 19:18

Mark 10:19

[Fishrrman]

"Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., said she views abortion laws as being "against Christian faith" on Thursday."

Regardless of what one's views may be on the abortion issue, this gal ain't very smart. And... comin' from me, that's sayin' a lot !

[cato potatoe]

She's just trolling for an overreaction so she can play the victim.

[EdJames]

"Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., said she views abortion laws as being "against Christian faith" on Thursday."

Regardless of what one's views may be on the abortion issue, this gal ain't very smart. And... comin' from me, that's sayin' a lot !

She's slab stupid.

[Chosen Daughter]

"If you are a person of the Christian faith, one of the tenants of our faith is free will. One of the tenants of our democracy is that we have a separation of church and state, and under no circumstances are we supposed to be imposing our faith on other people. And I think this is an example of that effort," Gillibrand said.

Gillibrand, who is Catholic, said the Hyde Amendment, which bans federal funding for abortion, should be abolished, reproductive healthcare should be guaranteed in every state, and the Supreme Court’s ruling that legalized abortion nationwide should be written into law.

The Supreme Court’s Roe v. Wade decision in 1973 established a constitutional right to abortion.

I believe in free will.  We cannot control what people do.  But we have laws to protect our citizens.  Murder is a felony but some people seem to think that these citizens in the womb have no rights.  Worse that a person could "free will choose" to take a fully formed baby and murder it.  Choosing abortion isn't a one person choice.  It involves a mother.  A father and the child in the womb.  A human being.

And I want to make a free will choice not to support abortion.  Not with my mind and soul.  Not with my money either.  Where she is absolutely wrong is that if people do this as a free will choice they cannot expect it to be Federally funded.  That makes it a National choice.  It forces people to be involved in other people's sinful choices.

[dfwgator]

This seems to be something Democrats are prone to, just like Pelosi, Waters and many others, Gillibrand entered the Twilight Zone and then took One Step Beyond.


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Madness!


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[jafo2010]

The new laws in states recognizing the life of the unborn with a heart beat is a brilliant start.  Unfortunately, the Supreme Court is not ready to re-evaluate Roe vs Wade.  Roberts will not go against abortion.  I suspect he is a eugenics supporter, as is all who believe in abortion, even unknowingly.  And I do not trust Kavanaugh either to be against abortion.

When I was young, I bought into the idea of a woman's right to make decisions about her body, but after becoming a father and witnessing the birth of three children, how anyone can consider an unborn child not to be human, well they are nothing short of being monsters.  I now consider it murder to kill the unborn, and agree with Alabama's law that abortion only be used to save the life of the mother.

I have said this before, I consider Scott Peterson to be despicable, and he should have been executed long ago.  However, if he can be indicted, convicted and sentenced to death for the murder of his unborn child, then I see no difference in what he did to a woman killing her unborn child.  While I am not advocating criminal complaints against mothers, I do advocate for the life of the unborn. Alabama did it right to make it a crime for any physician to perform an abortion except in the case of the mother's life.

And Gillibrand is a hack with her little girl voice.  That's the best New York can offer with all their highly educated population?  Please!

[Hoodat]

Roberts will not go against abortion.  I suspect he is a eugenics supporter, as is all who believe in abortion, even unknowingly.  And I do not trust Kavanaugh either to be against abortion.

I don't  want a justice who will be against abortion.  I want a justice who will simply follow the Constitution and not legislate from the bench.