GOP moves to rein in president's emergency powers

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GOP moves to rein in president's emergency powers
By Jordain Carney - 03/18/19 06:00 AM EDT

Republicans are digging in for a long fight over reining in the president's emergency powers, setting up a potential clash with both the White House and Democrats.

President Trump on Friday vetoed Congress’s attempt to block his national emergency on the U.S.-Mexico border wall. With neither chamber expected to have the votes to override his veto, the president is poised to win round one of his fight with lawmakers.

But Republicans are already setting their sights on making it easier to terminate future emergency declarations — setting up an intriguing round two.

“It’s an institutional issue, it’s a congressional authorities issue. We have the power of the purse,” said Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio). “Under the National Emergencies Act, there was too much latitude that was given away … and we need to pull that back some and let it be used for legitimate national security purposes.”

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) added that there is “unanimity” in the GOP conference about making changes to the law in the wake of the fight over Trump’s emergency declaration to construct the U.S.-Mexico border wall.

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) has tapped Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) to craft legislation in the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee that could win the 60 votes needed for a bill to defeat a filibuster and ultimately pass the upper chamber.

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https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/434333-gop-moves-to-rein-in-presidents-emergency-powers

[Bigun]

Making changes to the law is what Congress is supposed to do but none of them can be applied retroactively!

[Sanguine]

Making changes to the law is what Congress is supposed to do but none of them can be applied retroactively!

And, that's the point.  And, that's why the 12 Senators who voted against the emergency declaration were dead wrong.

[Bigun]

And, that's the point.  And, that's why the 12 Senators who voted against the emergency declaration were dead wrong.

Absolutely!!!   

[Right_in_Virginia]

And, that's the point.  And, that's why the 12 Senators who voted against the emergency declaration were dead wrong.

They knew and did it anyway.  This should scare the shit out of us.

[Sanguine]

They knew and did it anyway.  This should scare the shit out of us.

It does.

[Bigun]

They knew and did it anyway.  This should scare the shit out of us.

What scares the shit out of me is a two-tiered justice system in this country!  That is flatly unacceptable!

[libertybele]

They knew and did it anyway.  This should scare the shit out of us.

What scares the shit out of me is the fact that Chuckie and Nancy know that we clearly (unless your blind, deaf and dumb) have a crisis at the border but refuse to do a damn thing about it.  They are and always have been about expanding their voting base rather than the safety and sovereignty of our country.  In addition those GOP supposed conservatives who are going along with them equally scare me.  Not a whole lot of people left in Congress that are worth a damn!

[Right_in_Virginia]

What scares the shit out of me is the fact that Chuckie and Nancy know that we clearly (unless your blind, deaf and dumb) have a crisis at the border but refuse to do a damn thing about it. 

Chuck and Nancy don't scare me .... they're honest about wanting a steady flow of socialist voters.  Hell, they're even considering legislation giving illegals the right to vote.

But the 12 sniveling liars scare me more because they, too, know there's a crisis on our border.  But, they're supposed to be on our side.  I despise them most of all.



 

[libertybele]

Chuck and Nancy don't scare me .... they're honest about wanting a steady flow of socialist voters.  Hell, they're even considering legislation giving illegals the right to vote.

But the 12 sniveling liars scare me more because they, too, know there's a crisis on our border.  But, they're supposed to be on our side.  I despise them most of all.

Betrayed by supposed conservatives!

[240B]

The GOP/RNC/Republicans have made it much more than crystal clear that they have absolutely no agenda now or in the future to do a damn thing about the illegal immigration crisis. They put on a good show around election time, but once the election is over their true colors come out. And that is the GOP is 100% with the Democrats concerning illegals. That is the definition of the uniParty.

Unfortunately neither the Dems or the Pubs have enough foresight to realize that this flood is going to vote them all out of office. Every White person up there will be gone in 20 years, no matter who they are. And our country will be completely different. The one Party rule will be the only Party when that happens.

The Democrats think that the illegals will vote for them, and them only. I honestly don't see that happening. A large majority of Hispanics do not support the current Democrat core platforms, abortion, LBGTZ rights, embrace of Islam, and contrary to AOC, most of them do not support Communism or Socialism. That is exactly what they just risked their lives to escape from. They know exactly what Communism/Socialism truly is, more than any American ever could.

[truth_seeker]

Now is the perfect time for the inept "GOP" to make a show of "doing something" -- when they no longer hold the Housee majority, and therefore can fail and be able to say "thry tried."

Suchis life in the uper levels of the "GOP."

Can you say Paul Ryan?

[bilo]

The GOP/RNC/Republicans have made it much more than crystal clear that they have absolutely no agenda now or in the future to do a damn thing about the illegal immigration crisis. They put on a good show around election time, but once the election is over their true colors come out. And that is the GOP is 100% with the Democrats concerning illegals. That is the definition of the uniParty.

Unfortunately neither the Dems or the Pubs have enough foresight to realize that this flood is going to vote them all out of office. Every White person up there will be gone in 20 years, no matter who they are. And our country will be completely different. The one Party rule will be the only Party when that happens.

The Democrats think that the illegals will vote for them, and them only. I honestly don't see that happening. A large majority of Hispanics do not support the current Democrat core platforms, abortion, LBGTZ rights, embrace of Islam, and contrary to AOC, most of them do not support Communism or Socialism. That is exactly what they just risked their lives to escape from. They know exactly what Communism/Socialism truly is, more than any American ever could.

Just like African Americans?

BTW, most of the Central Americans coming in illegally do support socialism. It's part of the reason they are coming. We now have 2x's more immigrants receiving aid than American citizens.

[Victoria33]

The congress appropriates money for the departments of government.  No president should be able to take money from those departments because he wants to, going around congress to do it.  A dictator can do that, but a president of the United States should not be able to take money and spend it any way he wants. That is why some Republicans voted for the bill.  There should be a bill written to stop the president's ability to take money; he should have to go through congress to get the money. If a president can take all the money, there is no reason to have a congress; have a dictator.  Dictator Trump.

[240B]

The congress appropriates money for the departments of government.  No president should be able to take money from those departments because he wants to, going around congress to do it.  A dictator can do that, but a president of the United States should not be able to take money and spend it any way he wants. That is why some Republicans voted for the bill.  There should be a bill written to stop the president's ability to take money; he should have to go through congress to get the money. If a president can take all the money, there is no reason to have a congress; have a dictator.  Dictator Trump.

Really? That's interesting considering that nobody knows or will say, how Obama/Jarrett magically came up with $150 billion dollars in cash on stacked on pallets to give to Iran. 150 Billion dollars for Iran is somehow OK. But 5 Billion for America is illegal and crazy talk? How any rational person can think that what Obama did was legal, I will never comprehend.

[roamer_1]

They won't get it done.

The Dems will block it because they feel like now THEY need a turn at weaponizing the emergency powers act. And they will.

[libertybele]

The congress appropriates money for the departments of government.  No president should be able to take money from those departments because he wants to, going around congress to do it.  A dictator can do that, but a president of the United States should not be able to take money and spend it any way he wants. That is why some Republicans voted for the bill.  There should be a bill written to stop the president's ability to take money; he should have to go through congress to get the money. If a president can take all the money, there is no reason to have a congress; have a dictator.  Dictator Trump.

He declared a national emergency and rightfully so.  It is my understanding that he is taking funds that are 'discretionary' which is just that.  He has every authority to declare a national emergency.  Yes, the funding is the issue, but I can guarantee you that he is NOT the first president that has re-appropriated funds. He's just the first one that Congress has a bug up their behinds about. If I recall Bammy redirected funds from Fannie and Freddie to keep his healthcare plan going. 

[libertybele]

Really? That's interesting considering that nobody knows or will say, how Obama/Jarrett magically came up with $150 billion dollars in cash on stacked on pallets to give to Iran. 150 Billion dollars for Iran is somehow OK. But 5 Billion for America is illegal and crazy talk? How any rational person can think that what Obama did was legal, I will never comprehend.

Don't try to comprehend those that side with the leftist mental midgets; especially on this issue.  It'll only raise your blood pressure.

[240B]

Just like African Americans?

BTW, most of the Central Americans coming in illegally do support socialism. It's part of the reason they are coming. We now have 2x's more immigrants receiving aid than American citizens.

I have to disagree based on personal experience. While I think you are right about anybody wanting 'free money from the government', that is not necessarily Communism/Socialism the way that immigrants define the term. I have known legal Hispanic immigrants who go into a rage when they see a Che Guevara shirt or flag or when the Left praises Castro or Cuba. Because they know, some of them personally, what murderers these guy were in real reality, and not in Leftist fantasy land. Yes they want the money, but an actual Communist State of America is frightening to them. Because they know all that will bring with it: dictatorship, massive corruption, soldiers and tanks in the streets, people being abducted at midnight and disappeared, etc.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Really? That's interesting considering that nobody knows or will say, how Obama/Jarrett magically came up with $150 billion dollars in cash on stacked on pallets to give to Iran. 150 Billion dollars for Iran is somehow OK. But 5 Billion for America is illegal and crazy talk? How any rational person can think that what Obama did was legal, I will never comprehend.

Yep, some people rear they heads from the sand to attack only certain people or parties.  Then the head goes back down into the sand.

[bilo]

I have to disagree based on personal experience. While I think you are right about anybody wanting 'free money from the government', that is not necessarily Communism/Socialism the way that immigrants define the term. I have known legal Hispanic immigrants who go into a rage when they see a Che Guevara shirt or flag or when the Left praises Castro or Cuba. Because they know, some of them personally, what murderers these guy were in real reality, and not in Leftist fantasy land. Yes they want the money, but an actual Communist State of America is frightening to them. Because they know all that will bring with it: dictatorship, massive corruption, soldiers and tanks in the streets, people being abducted at midnight and disappeared, etc.

Yet they overwhelmingly vote for Rats.

People can say all kinds of things, but what they do is what they really believe. It's pretty normal to hear spanish people say they are pro-life, but they vote for the Rats.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Too late.  The vote to retain congressional power was last week.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Too late.  The vote to retain congressional power was last week.

No it wasn't.  The vote last week was to deny the President the emergency declaration.  The law under which Trump made the declaration still stands.

The same 12 republican senators are now drafting a bill to change the law.  Good luck getting democrat support for that.  They're not giving up that power.  The dems will wait as long as they have to and then they're coming for your guns.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

No it wasn't.  The vote last week was to deny the President the emergency declaration.  The law under which Trump made the declaration still stands.

The same 12 republican senators are now drafting a bill to change the law.  Good luck getting democrat support for that.  They're not giving up that power.  The dems will wait as long as they have to and then they're coming for your guns.

My last post was vague.  I'll clarify.  The Congress needed to assert it power last week by passing a VETO proof "no approval."  It is clear they don't care enough to over-ride the President's VETO on this declaration of National Emergency, nor to pass a new bill to curb future missuse of National Emergency funds.  It's too late now.  It's up to the SCOTUS and eventually the voters in 2020.  Perhaps the next Congress will have the strength to tell President Richie Rich "NO."

Thanx for the opportunity to elaborate.

[Sanguine]

The congress appropriates money for the departments of government.  No president should be able to take money from those departments because he wants to, going around congress to do it.  A dictator can do that, but a president of the United States should not be able to take money and spend it any way he wants. That is why some Republicans voted for the bill.  There should be a bill written to stop the president's ability to take money; he should have to go through congress to get the money. If a president can take all the money, there is no reason to have a congress; have a dictator.  Dictator Trump.

The problem is that Congress passed the emergency declarations law and now that they don't like the President, they want to prevent him from using it.