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Texas Landowners First to Challenge Trump's National Emergency Plan
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Posted: Feb 16, 2019 12:58 PM

On Friday, President Trump followed through on his threat to declare a national emergency to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, announcing he had found $8 billion from various government agencies to get it done. He had his share of supporters, like Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), who directed him to do whatever needed to do to get that barrier built. But many others - both liberals and conservatives - were displeased with how he went about it.

Just hours after Trump's announcement, three Texas landowners and the Frontera Audubon Society in Texas, an environmental group, became the first folks to file a lawsuit against POTUS's emergency plans for the border. The government had previously informed the landowners that if the funds became available, they'd begin construction of the wall on their properties. The advocacy group Public Citizen filed the case in federal district court in Washington, D.C. on Friday, arguing the president exceeded his authority under the National Emergencies Act of 1976. The group called it a "fake national emergency."

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Re: Texas Landowners First to Challenge Trump's National Emergency Plan
« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2019, 07:14:40 pm »
All of em? Or just a few deranged Beto supporters?


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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2019, 07:25:34 pm »
Three Texas landowners and an environmental group filed the first lawsuit on Friday challenging U.S. President Donald Trump's national emergency declaration aimed at freeing up billions of dollars to build a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, the consumer advocacy group Public Citizen said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/16/texas-landowners-lawsuit-to-block-trump-national-emergency-declaration.html

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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2019, 07:47:02 pm »
Hmmm....fourth circuit.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2019, 08:08:35 pm »
FIRST CAUSE OF ACTION

(Non-statutory review of ultra vires action; violation of separation of powers)

53. Plaintiffs have a non-statutory right of action to enjoin and declare unlawful official action that is ultra vires.

54. Article I, Section l of the Constitution assigns the role of making laws to Congress,and Article I, Section 9 specifies that “[n]o Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law.”

55. Federal legislation, including laws appropriating money, must be passed by both chambers of Congress before it may be presented to the President and, if signed, become law. U.S. Const., art. I.

56. In 2017 and 2018, Congress declined to appropriate money for a border wall.

57. The Constitution vests executive power in the President. U.S. Const., art. II. The President of the United States has only those powers conferred on him by the Constitution and federal statutes.

58. The president has no inherent authority to declare emergencies to override appropriations laws and other laws enacted by Congress; his emergency powers are defined and limited by statute.

59. Because no national emergency exists with respect to immigration across the southern border, the President’s Declaration exceeds the limited authority delegated to the President to declare national emergencies and invoke specific statutory powers conferred by Congress to act in such an emergency.

60. Because the emergency declaration is unlawful, the President lacks statutory authority to direct the spending of funds for that purpose; the expenditure of monies from the United States Treasury for a border wall for which Congress has refused to appropriate funds violates Article I of the Constitution.

61. Because no national emergency exists with respect to immigration across the southem border, the President’s invocation of emergency powers through the Declaration usurps legislative authority conferred by the Constitution on the Congress.

62. The Declaration and invocation of emergency powers pursuant to the Declaration violate the separation of powers.

63. Plaintiffs and members of Frontera Audubon will suffer irreparable injury if the Declaration and invocation of authority under 10 U.S.C. § 2808 are not declared unlawful, and plaintiffs and members of F rontera Audubon have no adequate remedy at law.

SECOND CAUSE OF ACTION

(Non-statutory review of ultra vires action; violation of separation of powers)

64. Plaintiffs have a non-statutory right of action to enjoin and declare unlawful official action that is ultra vires.

65. In the Declaration, the President declared that the “emergency” requires use of theArmed Forces and invoked the construction authority provided by 10 U.S.C. § 2808.66. Because the requirements for invocation of 10 U.S.C. § 2808 are not satisfied, reliance on section 2808 to authorize use of funds appropriated for other purposes usurps legislative authority conferred by the Constitution on the Congress.

67. President’s direction to use the authority set forth in 10 U.S.C. § 2808 for the purpose of constructing a border wall is ultra vires and violates the separation of powers.

68. Plaintiffs and members of Frontcra Audubon will suffer irreparable injury if the invoke l0 U.S.C. § 2808 is not declared unlawful, and plaintiffs and members of Frontera Audubon have no adequate remedy at law.

THIRD CAUSE OF ACTION

(Non-statutory review of ultra vires action; violation of separation of powers)

69. Plaintiffs have a non-statutory right of action to enjoin and declare unlawful official action that is ultra vires.

70. Because transferring funds to construct a border wall is not authorized by 10 U.S.C.§ 284, the President’s direction to use Defense Department funds appropriated for other purposes for the purpose of constructing a border wall directs action contrary to law and usurps legislative authority conferred by the Constitution on the Congress.

71. The President’s direction to transfer funds pursuant to 10 U.S.C. § 284 for the purpose of constructing a border wall is ultra vires and violates the separation of powers.

72. Plaintiffs and members of Frontera Audubon will suffer irreparable injury if the direction to transfer funds pursuant to 10 U.S.C. § 284 is not declared unlawful, and plaintiffs and members of Frontera Audubon have no adequate remedy at law.

FOURTH CAUSE OF ACTION

(Non-statutory review of ultra vires action by defendant Secretary of Defense)

73. Plaintiffs have a non-statutory right of action to enjoin and declare unlawful official action that is ultra vires.

74. The Secretary of Defense may act only pursuant to authority lawfully delegated by Congress or the President.

75. When declaring a national emergency, the President declared that the “enlergency” requires use of the Armed Forces and invoked the construction authority provided by 10 U.S.C.§ 2808.

76. Because the requirements for invocation of 10 U.S.C. § 2808 are not satisfied, reliance on section 2808 to authorize use of funds appropriated for other purposes usurps legislative authority conferred by the Constitution on the Congress.

77. Use of military construction funds pursuant to 10 U.S.C. § 2808 to construct a border wall violates the separation of powers.

78. Plaintiffs and members of Frontera Audubon will suffer irreparable injury if the Secretary of Defense takes action to build a wall in reliance on the Declaration or in implementing the President’s direction to use military construction funds pursuant to l0 U.S.C. § 2808, and plaintiffs and members of Frontera Audubon have no adequate remedy at law.

FIFTH CAUSE OF ACTION

(Non-statutory review of ultra vires action by defendant Secretary of Defense)

79. Plaintiffs have a non-statutory right of action to enjoin and declare unlawful official action that is ultra vires.

80. The Secretary of Defense may act only pursuant to authority lawfully delegated by Congress or the President.

81. Because transferring funds to construct a border wall is not authorized by 10 U.S.C. § 284, implementation of the President’s direction to do so would exceed the authority of the Secretary of Defense under that statute, and would be ultra vires, arbitrary, capricious, and contrary to law.

82. Plaintiffs and members of Frontera Audubon will suffer irreparable injury if the Secretary of Defense takes action to build a Wall in reliance on the Declaration or in implementing the President’s direction to transfer funds pursuant to 10 U.S.C. § 284, and plaintiffs and members of Frontera Audubon have no adequate remedy at law.



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Re: Texas Landowners First to Challenge Trump's National Emergency Plan
« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2019, 08:33:05 pm »
Don't worry.

"The wall is very, very on its way. It's happening.  As we speak.  we're building as we speak. in the most desperately needed areas.  And it's a big wall. It’s a strong wall, and it’s a wall that people aren’t going through very easily. You’d have to be in extremely good shape to get over this one. They would be able to climb Mt. Everest a lot easier, I think. But it's happening." - President Trump...in front of people.


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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2019, 08:40:19 pm »
Hmmm....fourth circuit.

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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2019, 09:17:13 pm »
Legal challenges to Trump emergency declaration face uphill battle

https://yournews.com/2019/02/16/872678/legal-challenges-to-trump-emergency-declaration-face-uphill-battle/
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(Reuters) - Democratic lawmakers, states and others mulling legal challenges to President Donald Trump's national emergency declaration to obtain funds to build a U.S.-Mexico border wall face an uphill and probably losing battle in a showdown likely to be decided by the conservative-majority Supreme Court, legal experts said.

After being rebuffed by the U.S. Congress in his request for $5.7 billion to help build the wall that was a signature 2016 campaign promise, Trump on Friday invoked emergency powers given to the president under a 1976 law. The move, according to the White House, enables Trump to bypass lawmakers and redirect money already appropriated by Congress for other purposes and use it for wall construction.

Peter Shane, a professor at Ohio State University's Moritz College of Law, said challenges to the emergency declaration could end up as a replay of the legal battle against Trump's travel ban targeting people from several Muslim-majority nations. The Supreme Court last year upheld the travel ban after lower courts had ruled against Trump, with the justices giving the president deference on immigration and national security issues.

Trump has painted illegal immigration and drug trafficking across the border as a national security threat.

"Courts are reluctant to second-guess the president on matters of national security," Shane said.

Democrats, state attorneys general and at least one advocacy group have vowed to take the Republican president to court over the declaration.

"I'll sign the final papers as soon as I get into the Oval Office and we'll have a national emergency and then we'll be sued," Trump said at the White House.

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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2019, 09:50:37 pm »
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Re: Texas Landowners First to Challenge Trump's National Emergency Plan
« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2019, 01:33:04 am »
Three Texas landowners and an environmental group filed the first lawsuit on Friday challenging U.S. President Donald Trump's national emergency declaration aimed at freeing up billions of dollars to build a wall along the U.S. border with Mexico, the consumer advocacy group Public Citizen said.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/16/texas-landowners-lawsuit-to-block-trump-national-emergency-declaration.html

I wonder how many others are for it.
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Re: Texas Landowners First to Challenge Trump's National Emergency Plan
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2019, 01:45:26 am »
Hopefully, this will be resolved in Mr. Trump's favor in the courts.

In the meantime, GET BUSY BUILDING.

NO citizen has the right, Constitutional or otherwise, to stand in the way of actions necessary to secure the integrity of the borders and the security of the United States.

Eminent domain does not provide a citizen with the means to stop the taking of property necessary to do so. It DOES provide for proper compensation of the "taken property".

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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2019, 01:51:09 am »
Don't worry.

"The wall is very, very on its way. It's happening.  As we speak.  we're building as we speak. in the most desperately needed areas.  And it's a big wall. It’s a strong wall, and it’s a wall that people aren’t going through very easily. You’d have to be in extremely good shape to get over this one. They would be able to climb Mt. Everest a lot easier, I think. But it's happening." - President Trump...in front of people.


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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2019, 01:58:13 am »
I wonder how many others are for it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/trumps-border-wall-would-need-private-property-but-texas-landowners-plan-to-dig-in-for-lengthy-legal-fight/2019/01/10/d7e4cba8-1443-11e9-803c-4ef28312c8b9_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9e0dc222126b
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Trump’s wall needs private property. But some Texans won’t give up their land without a fight.

Previous eminent domain attempts along the Texas border have led to more than a decade of court battles, some of which date to George W. Bush’s administration and have yet to be resolved. Many landowners, like Alvarez, are vowing to fight anew.

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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2019, 03:02:23 am »
Don't worry.  "The wall is very, very on its way. It's happening.  As we speak.  we're building as we speak. in the most desperately needed areas.  And it's a big wall. It’s a strong wall, and it’s a wall that people aren’t going through very easily. You’d have to be in extremely good shape to get over this one. They would be able to climb Mt. Everest a lot easier, I think. But it's happening." - President Trump...in front of people.
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Your private property is not your private property.  Trump owns your private property.  He knows imminent domain likely better than anyone in the USA.  In the past, he has said he "loves" imminent domain because he uses it to get land on which to build.  In his mind, all land is his.

Yesterday, I heard a Texas woman land owner speak, whose house, when they take her land, will be FIVE feet from the wall.  The government has already been to see her to tell her they are taking the land. She has never seen an illegal in her area; never seen anyone come out of the water where her house is.  Her father and another family member are law enforcement officers so, to me, that makes her credible in what she says - she is not a nut case.  She said if she saw any illegal coming out of the river or around her house, she could call them and she has never had to do that.

I would think she is going to have to move, give up all her land as no one would want that property now, 5 feet from the wall.  Another Trump "win".


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Re: Texas Landowners First to Challenge Trump's National Emergency Plan
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2019, 03:05:47 am »
I don't know why they feel the need to sue.  Trump already gave them the authority to say no to the wall.  If he builds a wall it will be one full of holes.  Section here and there just like Obama made.  One made for immigrants to ignore.
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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2019, 03:11:30 am »
@Once-Ler

Your private property is not your private property.  Trump owns your private property.  He knows imminent domain likely better than anyone in the USA.  In the past, he has said he "loves" imminent domain because he uses it to get land on which to build.  In his mind, all land is his.

Yesterday, I heard a Texas woman land owner speak, whose house, when they take her land, will be FIVE feet from the wall.  The government has already been to see her to tell her they are taking the land. She has never seen an illegal in her area; never seen anyone come out of the water where her house is.  Her father and another family member are law enforcement officers so, to me, that makes her credible in what she says - she is not a nut case.  She said if she saw any illegal coming out of the river or around her house, she could call them and she has never had to do that.

I would think she is going to have to move, give up all her land as no one would want that property now, 5 feet from the wall.  Another Trump "win".

People can't be that stupid.  If they buy a piece of property on the border they must know that the Federal Government can come and secure it.  I sure wouldn't buy a piece bordering Canada and not expect some kind of fencing barrier and access for Border Control.  Its only recently that we think we are One World Government.
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AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2019, 03:11:49 am »
There currently is no such thing in Texas as privately owned real estate. There is only the right to keep using some if you keep paying the rent.
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2019, 03:18:20 am »
Dang Property Taxes  9999hair out0000

On my lot on the Trinity River bank I even have to pay Navigation District taxes due to some fool plan to make the Trinity navigable all the way up to Dallas.
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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2019, 03:27:22 am »
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2019, 04:19:14 am »
I just heard on Fox radio that Sen. Cruz suggested/advised to use money taken from El Capo.

That leads me to think he supports building the barriers. It further suggests using money to buy land.

Of course absent specifics, I admit to guessing some.

I hope he isn't sitting on the fence.


Has anybody seen his "official" position?

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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2019, 04:25:23 am »
I just heard on Fox radio that Sen. Cruz suggested/advised to use money taken from El Capo.

That leads me to think he supports building the barriers. It further suggests using money to buy land.

Of course absent specifics, I admit to guessing some.

I hope he isn't sitting on the fence.


Has anybody seen his "official" position?

You just heard that?  He's been saying that for awhile.  What do you mean sitting on the fence?
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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2019, 04:42:05 am »
I just heard on Fox radio that Sen. Cruz suggested/advised to use money taken from El Capo.

That leads me to think he supports building the barriers. It further suggests using money to buy land.

Of course absent specifics, I admit to guessing some.

I hope he isn't sitting on the fence.


Has anybody seen his "official" position?

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Following the conviction of Mexican drug lord Joaquín Guzmán Loera, aka ‘El Chapo,’ I called upon my Senate colleagues to pass the EL CHAPO Act. This legislation, which I introduced last month, would reserve any amounts forfeited to the U.S. government as a result of the criminal prosecution of ‘El Chapo’ and other drug lords for border security assets and the completion of the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. It is far past time that we secure our southern border, and my bill would so without costing American taxpayers one cent. Please read my op-ed in the Washington Post further detailing my legislation.

Unfortunately, the spending bill I voted against on Thursday is a bad deal and fails to reflect Texans’ priorities by not sufficiently securing the border. The bill does not deliver on the promises we made to the American people to keep our communities safe and proves Washington Democrats do not want to secure our southern border.

Texas is home to many people employed in the space industry. I am proud to represent them as Chairman of the Subcommittee on Aviation and Space. On Thursday, I delivered remarks to the SLS-Orion-EGS Suppliers Conference and reiterated my support for the United States to be the global leader in space and for American boots to be the first to step foot on Mars. I was also pleased to meet with and receive updates from NASA directors from Johnson Space Center, Kennedy Space Center, and Marshall Space Flight Center on priorities for their respective centers.

I also introduced bipartisan legislation this week with Sen. Jon Tester (D-Mont.), the Military Reserve Jobs Act, which gives qualified members of the National Guard and Reserves a tiered preference in hiring for federal civil service jobs. The bill would help promote the hiring of National Guard members and Reservists into the federal workforce and I hope that Congress can swiftly pass it.

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Sen. Cruz called upon his Senate colleagues to pass his EL CHAPO Act to secure funding to build a wall following the conviction of Mexican drug lord Joaquín Guzmán Loera, aka ‘El Chapo,’ on all 10 federal criminal counts against him. Read more...
 
 
Sen. Cruz released a statement in response to the Defense Intelligence Agency’s report “Challenges to Security in Space”. Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz, member of the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations appeared on ‘Fox News @ Night’ with Shannon Bream where he discussed his EL CHAPO Act and the ongoing crisis in Venezuela. Read more...
 
 
Sen. Cruz issued a statement in opposition to the spending deal. Read more...
 
Sen. Cruz penned an op-ed for the Washington Post highlighting his EL CHAPO Act, a bill he introduced which would reserve any amounts forfeited to the U.S. government as a result of the criminal prosecution of Mexican drug lord Joaquín Archivaldo Guzmán Loera (aka “El Chapo”) and other drug kingpins for border security assets and the completion of the wall along the U.S.-Mexico border. Read more...
 
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Re: Texas Landowners First to Challenge Trump's National Emergency Plan
« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2019, 04:50:28 am »
Even I believe, Representative Will Hurd is saying, there will be thousands of lawsuits if plans for the border wall go on. I was talking to someone tonight about this.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/2019/02/15/texans-react-trumps-border-wall-emergency-rep-will-hurd-warns-peopleare-going-sue

That kind of leaves a lot of us stumped, suing?  Everyone here is mostly gung ho on the wall.